Private Parking Tickets discussion

taffy056

Oopsadaisy wrote: »

Where do you get the 30% figure from??

It was reported that 70% of private parking tickets were not paid, that was a quote from a PPC owner in the last couple of weeks, will look for the article, but it must be around that figure in general for the whole lot of them.

Google is killing them, because if you just put a search in for the company on there, you will across threads like this from all over the net, google is your friend

trisontana

I think the 30% figure came from that BBC news article last week which reported that clamping firms are turning to ticketing instead.

Edit.
Found the BBC Article

Sir_Roger_deLodger

HO87 wrote: »

Oh dear! This is very close to Perky's stamping grounds. Do you think we'll see an increase in trolling for the next couple of days?

He usually appears just before a court case. Remember "Alan Frumper" a few days ago?

trisontana

On the subject of OPC, as you may know 27 cases relating to Ingress park have been "stayed" by the judge while he considers the case. He as asked some very pertinent questions (taken from CAG):-

1. Authority: "The claimant shall disclose the documents on which it relies as giving it authority to issue parking tickets and collect payments from visitors to and residents at Ingress Park."
The Court wants to see the paperwork (contracts)behind Crest/Peverel, landowners, and OPC and to see who is making any money from this scheme, how it came about, who is benefiting etc.

2. Signage: Essentially the Judge wants a plan showing where all the signs are or were, and what they had written on them, when they were removed (by OPC, Council, or parking vigilantes) - and if so were they replaced or not.

3. Contract: "The claimant shall explain in legal terms how it contends a contract is made between themselves and parking drivers and shall state the legal effect of any signage relied upon; identify the nature of the offer and the acceptance and identify the parties to any such contract."
It goes on to ask how they calculate the parking control fines and to explain the damage/loss OPC incur by someone parking.

4. debt collection: "The claimant shall clarify its relationship with Windsor-Smythe and Partners and in particular as to whether there is any linkage in the form of personnel or management."

Sir_Roger_deLodger

Very interesting. Looks like OPC have dropped themselves in the brown stuff here!
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

peter_the_piper

He certainly knows how to ask probing questions. Should he get the correct answers and then throw out the cases, which he should, it will give instant ammo for anyone else should opc try their luck again in another court. Assuming of course the ""accused"" don't just roll over and that they find CAG, Pepipoo and here. I can see certain sites being rewritten.

reigunn

Hi all,

I have been issued with a final notice for a parking fine amounting to £150 and threatening CCJ charges and bailiff stuff. I and my family were having a meal in a pizza hut on one of those commercial complexes that have a number of large stores, and after the meal we wandered around the stores, never leaving the site. We were there for just under 3 hrs. I have sent the company in charge of issuing the fines, Civil Enforcement Ltd, photocopies of the meal reciept and have had the manager of the restaurant also contact them to get the fine dropped, but they are now issuing these threats. I feel like I have the moral high ground: we did not leave the space that the parking is dedicated to, and we spent money in the adjoing restaurant, so have not used the car park to 'nip into town' or for reasons other than it's intended purposes, but I don't want bailifs and a CCJ for something so trivial as a parking fine, when we surf so close to the red line as we do anyway.
so what i'm asking is: what rights do I have in this case, what can I do and how can I fight a CCJ if i am in a position to do so? Is it better to pay the £150 (making it the most expensive meal I have ever eaten) or fight tooth an nail?
Help!:mad:

lucylucky

reigunn wrote: »

Hi all,

I have been issued with a final notice for a parking fine amounting to £150 and threatening CCJ charges and bailiff stuff. I and my family were having a meal in a pizza hut on one of those commercial complexes that have a number of large stores, and after the meal we wandered around the stores, never leaving the site. We were there for just under 3 hrs. I have sent the company in charge of issuing the fines, Civil Enforcement Ltd, photocopies of the meal reciept and have had the manager of the restaurant also contact them to get the fine dropped, but they are now issuing these threats. I feel like I have the moral high ground: we did not leave the space that the parking is dedicated to, and we spent money in the adjoing restaurant, so have not used the car park to 'nip into town' or for reasons other than it's intended purposes, but I don't want bailifs and a CCJ for something so trivial as a parking fine, when we surf so close to the red line as we do anyway.
so what i'm asking is: what rights do I have in this case, what can I do and how can I fight a CCJ if i am in a position to do so? Is it better to pay the £150 (making it the most expensive meal I have ever eaten) or fight tooth an nail?
Help!:mad:

They are nothing but empty threats.

Ignore them.
Do not correspond with these clowns any longer.

You have not been fined by anyone.

File any letters from them, or make them into paper aeroplanes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbbZtxzrJAI

By all means write to the restaurant and explain that you will not be spending any money with them again as they employ scum to steal money from customers.

trisontana

Just ignore. It's as simple as that. You don't owe them a penny and it's not a "fine", it's an unenforceable invoice. Please read all the other posts on here that deal with private parking tickets.

Sir_Roger_deLodger

They can't just issue you with a CCJ. To get a CCJ, and to involve bailiffs, all the following has to happen:

1 They take you to court
2 They win
3 You still refuse to pay.

This will never happen, as they never go near a court.

Don't confuse debt collectors with bailiffs. It's all a scam designed to scare you into paying.
Ignore all their letters, and do not contact them again.