Parking ticket

DirectDebacle

Your point being that if there is a technical infringement in the way the ticket was issued then anyone can park wherever they like and using the pavement as a used car lot is fine with you too.

The vehicle is illegally parked. While you are waiting for the PCN to be posted have a trawl through the Highways Act.

My true colours, which seem to be of a different hue to yours, are that if people commit offences then they should pay the penalty. In this case whether the PCN is up to scratch or not this example of parking is not fine by me.

A responsible driver would not have parked in this manner and I cannot imagine what possessed the OP to publish such an example of obvious illegal parking. If it makes you feel good to try to find a 'get-out' for such crass behaviour then good for you.

scully91

Directdebacle, wrong on every count. Im not looking for a technical infringement nor an argument, you post holds no water and just seems argumentitive so i wont be talking further

Neil, i have scanned the pcn onto my computer and it is held on my desktop in a .rtf file, now im stuck as photobucket cant see it !

Crabman

scully how did you scan it in? I'm guessing via a word processor/microsoft word if it's in rtf.

There should be a scanner wizard on your computer somewhere. If you use that to scan the PCN, it should ideally save it as a jpg which photobucket will 'see'.

Neil_B

scully91 wrote: »

Neil, i have scanned the pcn onto my computer and it is held on my desktop in a .rtf file, now im stuck as photobucket cant see it !

i'm an IT numpty myself mate! I don't even know what rtf is?

Ideally images should be jpeg - PC should be able to convert.

I posted step by step instructions in post #29 for tinypic is the easiest site - just read what i posted slowly.

Wrwick is decrim by the way so you can forget any court. Appeals via the relevant procedures as set out in statute. Ultimately, an independent Adjudicator (TPT).

Neil_B

DirectDebacle wrote: »

Your point being that if there is a technical infringement in the way the ticket was issued then anyone can park wherever they like and using the pavement as a used car lot is fine with you too.

Ok calm down, lol. Be fair, you started from a negative viewpoint. You never had any intention of helping did you?

i have already clearly said that I find footway parking abhorent. Here is where we come to priorities. >>

Do you think that his misdemeanour is more important than the fact that many Councils act outside the law, as public bodies, to serve us, with all the extensive resources they have? This may, of course, not be the case but shall we see? i like my Local Authority to act legally and it might surprise you to know that I am actually a supporter of parking enforcement.

Just today I heard of a CEO who was dismissed by a Council for malpractice. The significance being that this is virtually unheard of - and i find that disturbing. Incidentally, a big congratulations to the Council who took that action.

No. People should not park wherever they want or feel like it - but people are entitled to make a mistake and learn along the way whilst councils should be applying the Regs fairly - and I can cite you no end of cases of Council intransigence and misfeasance and even malfeasance. Lets' just get it right and be fair to everybody.
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May I ask, incidentally, who your local Council are? Ya never know!
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Neil_B

DirectDebacle wrote: »

The vehicle is illegally parked. While you are waiting for the PCN to be posted have a trawl through the Highways Act.

Oh please please link me to the relevant part of that legislation. I'd love to be reassured.

No it wasn't illegally parked - according to the law of the land - it was parked in contravention of restrictions.
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Neil_B

DirectDebacle wrote: »

If it makes you feel good to try to find a 'get-out' for such crass behaviour then good for you.

Yes, defeating Councils that operate outside the law, act unreasonably in various other circumstances and there being frequent evidence of them acting intransigently by playing the 'percentage game' of who is likely to pay - yep i take great pleasure in it. Wanna list?

Here's a good deal. there may be nothing wrong with the PCN at all - then you can rejoice. On the other hand there may be legal flaws (credit to scully who has said that is not what he wants - but is all he has at the mo). if thee are any and the Council are acting illegally - then you can respond with a legal way of getting them out of it - ok?
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scully91

Neil (and other helpers) i would like to say that if for example parking on the pavement is illegal and the police could do you for it thats not what the council have done me for.
Its like the council putting a ticket on your windscreen when your in the car with no seatbelt on, its not for them to do so.

scully91

WARWICK DISTRICT COUNCIL












WARWICK DISTRICT COUNCIL
PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE (PCN)_______
The Traffic Management Act 2004, s.78: Civil Enforcement of Parking Contraventions (England) General Regulations 2007; Civil Enforcement of Parking Contraventions (England) Representations and Appeals Regulation^ 2007,



This notice is issued by Warwick District Council on behalf of the enforcement authority Warwickshire County Council
PCN Number: WK3O 153793 Served on: 15/1O/2OO8 by Civil Enforcement Officer (CEO) PA214 •3 had reason to believe that the following contravention had occurred and that a penalty charge is now payable:
Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours





Code: 01













Date of contravention: Time of contravention: Location: Radford Road,

1 5X 1 O/2OOB
Leamington Spa









Vehicle registration: YS27'KRX
Make: A I -Pa Romeo
Colour: B I ac(<
Tax disc: 0137193670 Expiry: 31/01/2009


' served from 13:37 to 13:44 htry & Display Ticket No: Expiry Time:

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A penalty charge of £70 is now payable and must / be paid not later than the last day of the perioa of 28 days beginning with the date on which this PCN was served (i.e. 11/11/2008)
The penalty charge will be reduced by a discount of 50% to £35 if it is paid not later than the last day of the period of 14 days beginning with the date on which this PCN was served (i.e. 28/10/2008)








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SEE REVERSE FOR:
How to pay.

Neil_B

scully91 wrote: »

Neil (and other helpers) i would like to say that if for example parking on the pavement is illegal and the police could do you for it thats not what the council have done me for.
Its like the council putting a ticket on your windscreen when your in the car with no seatbelt on, its not for them to do so.

Correct, the Council cannot do you for obstruction as the Police still can and could have.

Although we haven't seen it yet you have probably got contravention code '01' which refers to you contravening the yellow lines - which apply to all of the highway as explained.
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