PPI Reclaiming discussion Part III

marshallka

di3004 wrote: »

Hi folks

Having a coffee break .

Wow he is doing well, he is actually a very intelligent lad, and was in a mainstream class, it was his anxiety that moved him into a smaller grouped class, which we had to fight for as he used to hide in the school toilets, even though we had to take him to and from school, for safety reasons, the school used to ring and say he was missing from lessons again... but the bullying never stopped and he was also on top of the class, wouldn't want him to go backwards.....:eek: , on his school report last year for year 8 he had the highest mark out of the whole year.....:T that is where his talents lie.;)
Also some other subjects he was top as well.

He does reading every day, very fluent, I am so just happy that my uncle is on hand for his maths, he is a retired maths and physics teacher, he was also head of school then went on to a professor to a uni before retiring, he also checks all his other work while he's here and is so pleased with him, yet not happy with the way things have been dealt with......at school...... , he cannot actually get involved with not living in the district either.....:rolleyes: .

His French oral speaking is excellent, and Welsh, top of those as well as school, Jamie when he comes in from work was also top of almost everything at school, and helps him out with the languages as well.;)

These are not compulsory for home ed, but he needs and has lots of English, Maths, Science and IT, will read everyday, and Art to end the day, which closes his day then to relax, until Jamie comes home and will sit with him for an hour every other evening to help with his languages as he enjoys doing this....:D

So what do you actually do then Di. Do you follow a cirriculum thingy set by the school. Have the education authority set exams etc. My daugher is in year 7 now and always doing exams... . I know you do not have to have training etc to keep your child away from school and do it at home but surely you must need to be checked on by the authorities etc.... .
What happens at exams then now? Its so strict at my daughters school. They have to have their pockets etc checked before entering...

marshallka

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di3004

marshallka wrote: »

So what do you actually do then Di. Do you follow a cirriculum thingy set by the school. Have the education authority set exams etc. My daugher is in year 7 now and always doing exams... . I know you do not have to have training etc to keep your child away from school and do it at home but surely you must need to be checked on by the authorities etc.... .
What happens at exams then now? Its so strict at my daughters school. They have to have their pockets etc checked before entering...

This is what we are waiting to hear about hun.
Due to his med records/doctors records and police have logged everything this is to be reconsidered for funding, if it wasn't for them he would not be entitled.
If this is then resolved exams will possibly be arranged within the headquarters of the education dept, it all takes time as there are hundreds if not thousands in the same situation, my mate who lives in England is also going through the same thing.

di3004

This is interesting here

http://www.he-special.org.uk/articles/aspergersindex.php

There is an interesting article in there, about someone home educating a son with Aspergers Syndrome




Our son is six, a beautiful, intelligent, articulate and funny boy. He also happens to have complex learning difficulties, some co-ordination and balance problems and traits of Aspergers Syndrome.
We now home educate him because school turned out to be the most unsuitable place possible for him. At five he was desperately unhappy after a year of being dragged kicking and screaming to school and his anxiety was having a terrible effect on his behaviour at home, he was hiding from close family, picking the skin from his fingers and looking a grey shadow of himself - it was heartbreaking. We saw many specialists, and even tried a different school but our son was still a wreck and his confidence badly damaged by seeing himself falling further behind his peers in reading and writing. The fact that he was good at maths didn't count because he couldn't record his answers and excellent at building difficult models or knowing all about the body's immune system wasn't seen as important.
Our son could not cope with the noise, the regime and the other children especially in the playground because he finds socialising so difficult and because he had all sorts of learning problems and balance and coordination difficulties, it was impossible for him to learn in a classroom or even in a small group. Everyone said he needed one-to-one to learn and he was getting 20 minutes per week at school. We pushed for him to get a statement thinking this would help but just as we received it we realised school could never deliver as much one-to-one as we could at home.
Within a few weeks of finding out home education was legal we realised it was actually our only option - we knew he would certainly be happier at home and then he might stand a chance of making some progress and building his confidence back up. Once we made the decision, it was a weight lifted from all of our shoulders. We also have a daughter who is nearly four and the difference is striking - she wants to learn to read and write, loves playgroup and is already looking forward to going to school later this year.
Most of the time we're quite sure about what we're doing but sometimes we'll have a little panic that our son isn't learning enough, and times of me (Mum) feeling overwhelmed by the responsibility of it all but then we stop and realise that home education is still much better for him at the moment. He still has very complex learning difficulties and has been put off doing any work by that year or so in school and as a result little of what we do is anything like I thought I'd do with him. He is impossible to direct, he finds it hard to concentrate and he seems to find it really difficult to learn anything other than what he asks about, so I just have to work with this and seize on each and every learning opportunity. At the moment I try to help him learn through his interests and through play and he is in fact learning a great deal - about the world, science, business, money, food, nature, history, following instructions, using computers and after all he's a six year old - so he's having lots of fun and lots of days out to parks, castles, woods, museums to vary the week and stir up interests in new things.
Also to encourage him to spend time with others and to give myself a break he has several short sessions with two different teachers who are doing all the pre-reading/pre-writing activities in a fun way through art and craft and games. He enjoys these sessions and always comes out with a bounce in his step as they are one-to-one, high interest, no pressure and lots of praise - such a shame school couldn't do this. Also we have a home educated teenage girl come in twice a week to "play" with him and sometimes his sister.
We do try to go to local home education group activities although my son doesn't yet enjoy them as much as me. He sees as many friends from his old school as he can cope with and plays happily with children we meet up with at play areas or the pool.
He's much happier, calmer, and becoming open to learning. As a family we are also more relaxed and enjoying our lives again. His SEN makes his behaviour difficult to understand but one of the best things about home education is that I am spending a lot of time with him and this is helping me begin to fathom him out.
One day we hope he will go back to school, hopefully by Secondary School age, but at the moment we are very disappointed there are no schools near us which cater for Aspergers children properly, but thank goodness in the meantime we can home educate.

martiUK

hi di and marshallaka,been away has anyone had any good news on ppi claims, mine reachs it year old mile stone today, and know benefical bank who claim with say that there is £100 of charges to account dating back 4 years starting to get me down with this time wait

marshallka

di3004 wrote: »

This is interesting here

http://www.he-special.org.uk/articles/aspergersindex.php

There is an interesting article in there, about someone home educating a son with Aspergers Syndrome




Our son is six, a beautiful, intelligent, articulate and funny boy. He also happens to have complex learning difficulties, some co-ordination and balance problems and traits of Aspergers Syndrome.
We now home educate him because school turned out to be the most unsuitable place possible for him. At five he was desperately unhappy after a year of being dragged kicking and screaming to school and his anxiety was having a terrible effect on his behaviour at home, he was hiding from close family, picking the skin from his fingers and looking a grey shadow of himself - it was heartbreaking. We saw many specialists, and even tried a different school but our son was still a wreck and his confidence badly damaged by seeing himself falling further behind his peers in reading and writing. The fact that he was good at maths didn't count because he couldn't record his answers and excellent at building difficult models or knowing all about the body's immune system wasn't seen as important.
Our son could not cope with the noise, the regime and the other children especially in the playground because he finds socialising so difficult and because he had all sorts of learning problems and balance and coordination difficulties, it was impossible for him to learn in a classroom or even in a small group. Everyone said he needed one-to-one to learn and he was getting 20 minutes per week at school. We pushed for him to get a statement thinking this would help but just as we received it we realised school could never deliver as much one-to-one as we could at home.
Within a few weeks of finding out home education was legal we realised it was actually our only option - we knew he would certainly be happier at home and then he might stand a chance of making some progress and building his confidence back up. Once we made the decision, it was a weight lifted from all of our shoulders. We also have a daughter who is nearly four and the difference is striking - she wants to learn to read and write, loves playgroup and is already looking forward to going to school later this year.
Most of the time we're quite sure about what we're doing but sometimes we'll have a little panic that our son isn't learning enough, and times of me (Mum) feeling overwhelmed by the responsibility of it all but then we stop and realise that home education is still much better for him at the moment. He still has very complex learning difficulties and has been put off doing any work by that year or so in school and as a result little of what we do is anything like I thought I'd do with him. He is impossible to direct, he finds it hard to concentrate and he seems to find it really difficult to learn anything other than what he asks about, so I just have to work with this and seize on each and every learning opportunity. At the moment I try to help him learn through his interests and through play and he is in fact learning a great deal - about the world, science, business, money, food, nature, history, following instructions, using computers and after all he's a six year old - so he's having lots of fun and lots of days out to parks, castles, woods, museums to vary the week and stir up interests in new things.
Also to encourage him to spend time with others and to give myself a break he has several short sessions with two different teachers who are doing all the pre-reading/pre-writing activities in a fun way through art and craft and games. He enjoys these sessions and always comes out with a bounce in his step as they are one-to-one, high interest, no pressure and lots of praise - such a shame school couldn't do this. Also we have a home educated teenage girl come in twice a week to "play" with him and sometimes his sister.
We do try to go to local home education group activities although my son doesn't yet enjoy them as much as me. He sees as many friends from his old school as he can cope with and plays happily with children we meet up with at play areas or the pool.
He's much happier, calmer, and becoming open to learning. As a family we are also more relaxed and enjoying our lives again. His SEN makes his behaviour difficult to understand but one of the best things about home education is that I am spending a lot of time with him and this is helping me begin to fathom him out.
One day we hope he will go back to school, hopefully by Secondary School age, but at the moment we are very disappointed there are no schools near us which cater for Aspergers children properly, but thank goodness in the meantime we can home educate.

I just can't understand how long its taken for your son to come out of school as he is now 14 and I thought you were diagnosed with this by an early age...I know someone who has a son with this and they were so young when this was picked up although he does go to school and is coping very well. I know that bullying can happen in most schools. The child in the article is only 6 and that I could cope with but at 14 and for a child that has already coped in mainstream school it must be very difficult... .

What meds is he on Di??? You mention med records...is this what you mean?

I was out at every playgroup around from when both were only a few weeks old and went to mother and toddler groups everywhere. I just found it lonely after all that had finished.

di3004

marshallka wrote: »

I just can't understand how long its taken for your son to come out of school as he is now 14 and I thought you were diagnosed with this by an early age...I know someone who has a son with this and they were so young when this was picked up although he does go to school and is coping very well. I know that bullying can happen in most schools. The child in the article is only 6 and that I could cope with but at 14 and for a child that has already coped in mainstream school it must be very difficult... .

What meds is he on Di??? You mention med records...is this what you mean?

I was out at every playgroup around from when both were only a few weeks old and went to mother and toddler groups everywhere. I just found it lonely after all that had finished.

I should have made it more clearer;) , it was a battle, when he started nursery, I also taken him to mother and toddlers as well, he was also clingy and scream as he could not stand the noise, I had him checked out because I thought it was something to do with his hearing, but that was ruled out.

Anyway when he started nursery they would ring me at least twice a week to say they were having problems and if I could see them at the end of the day, they state he would not join in and would never take off his coat, and getting him to socialise was not an easy task for them either, he would forever go and sit away from others and sit under a table.

By the time he started school reception, they also had the same problem, even after school we would be trying him to mix with other kids, My oldest was opposite and I know all kids are different, but the the reception teacher said she had her suspicions that he had some special needs but could not put her finger on it, it was arranged by the school for him to be seen by a child pschologist, anyway, he seen her, he kicked and bit her, she said, he has not got a problem he is just immature.......:eek: , (okay he was only 4 years old).....

We seen our doctor and he was then referred again to be told the same thing by the same Child Pysc, back in the 1990's Aspergers was known but not so much as it is now, they could see there was a problem but again could not put their finger on it.

We had moved house as we had damp at our old house, so it was a few miles off and he started a new, but smaller infant and junior school, they were hopeless and didn't want to know, all they done was complain about him and there were no other schooling options around for him.

Anyways, he was officially diagnosed at the age of 11 going on 12...:eek: , it was only because my mate who has a son with the same condition it clicked, he was then referred again, they said immediately its Aspergers and an Anxiety disorders.

When I say med records, this is regarding logging of the bullying, which the doctors said due to his special needs this was outragious, he has been bullied form the age of 4 onwards and its not just me, but many others I know of going through the same, we have also been through the LEA, the governers, the lot to sort this out, its okay for a few weeks then it all starts up again.

Some are more vulnerable than others, and even the head of year admitted that this is the worse year ever they had when it comes to behaviour, but again nothing resolved, like I said we spent more time at school than at home in the week, we even had to get the police involved as he went missing from school that was awful, they were not looking after him.

He had an IEP programme which recorded his requirements, not that they went along with it but they should have.

Now that school is the biggest school in the whole of out district, yet it has the best name.

On the disability forum on this site, someone was diagnosed with this syndrome at the age of 57, but everyone is different, depends if they have any other issues as well.

My other mate Nic, her son copes okay with it, yet he does not suffer with anxiety.

The only meds he has his for his asthma, they will not give anything to make him sleep, yet I wouldn't want him to have anything anyways, as there is nothing to treat aspergers.

If this problem is keeping from school regarding the bullying and if this is both logged with both police and the doctors, also his Child Pysch, there is a chance he may get funded, if not logged there is not a chance.

I did not even know Home education was allowed until last year.

di3004

This here is about "Education otherwise";)

http://www.education-otherwise.org/abouthe.htm

marshallka

martiUK wrote: »

hi di and marshallaka,been away has anyone had any good news on ppi claims, mine reachs it year old mile stone today, and know benefical bank who claim with say that there is £100 of charges to account dating back 4 years starting to get me down with this time wait

Hi, mine is one year in March or April so not far behind..:eek: . Has your complaint been at the FOS for a year...???

I hope not and if it has then make a complaint to them and shift their !!!*s..;)

Good luck..

marshallka

di3004 wrote: »

I should have made it more clearer;) , it was a battle, when he started nursery, I also taken him to mother and toddlers as well, he was also clingy and scream as he could not stand the noise, I had him checked out because I thought it was something to do with his hearing, but that was ruled out.

Anyway when he started nursery they would ring me at least twice a week to say they were having problems and if I could see them at the end of the day, they state he would not join in and would never take off his coat, and getting him to socialise was not an easy task for them either, he would forever go and sit away from others and sit under a table.

By the time he started school reception, they also had the same problem, even after school we would be trying him to mix with other kids, My oldest was opposite and I know all kids are different, but the the reception teacher said she had her suspicions that he had some special needs but could not put her finger on it, it was arranged by the school for him to be seen by a child pschologist, anyway, he seen her, he kicked and bit her, she said, he has not got a problem he is just immature.......:eek: , (okay he was only 4 years old).....

We seen our doctor and he was then referred again to be told the same thing by the same Child Pysc, back in the 1990's Aspergers was known but not so much as it is now, they could see there was a problem but again could not put their finger on it.

We had moved house as we had damp at our old house, so it was a few miles off and he started a new, but smaller infant and junior school, they were hopeless and didn't want to know, all they done was complain about him and there were no other schooling options around for him.

Anyways, he was officially diagnosed at the age of 11 going on 12...:eek: , it was only because my mate who has a son with the same condition it clicked, he was then referred again, they said immediately its Aspergers and an Anxiety disorders.

When I say med records, this is regarding logging of the bullying, which the doctors said due to his special needs this was outragious, he has been bullied form the age of 4 onwards and its not just me, but many others I know of going through the same, we have also been through the LEA, the governers, the lot to sort this out, its okay for a few weeks then it all starts up again.

Some are more vulnerable than others, and even the head of year admitted that this is the worse year ever they had when it comes to behaviour, but again nothing resolved, like I said we spent more time at school than at home in the week, we even had to get the police involved as he went missing from school that was awful, they were not looking after him.

He had an IEP programme which recorded his requirements, not that they went along with it but they should have.

Now that school is the biggest school in the whole of out district, yet it has the best name.

On the disability forum on this site, someone was diagnosed with this syndrome at the age of 57, but everyone is different, depends if they have any other issues as well.

My other mate Nic, her son copes okay with it, yet he does not suffer with anxiety.

The only meds he has his for his asthma, they will not give anything to make him sleep, yet I wouldn't want him to have anything anyways, as there is nothing to treat aspergers.

If this problem is keeping from school regarding the bullying and if this is both logged with both police and the doctors, also his Child Pysch, there is a chance he may get funded, if not logged there is not a chance.

I did not even know Home education was allowed until last year.

I thought Aspergers was a form of autism and they would have picked that up very early. I suppose everyone is different. It helped then having someone that you know with a child with the same so you could see what things were in the illness and get the diagnosis better.

Going to see to my lot now.

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