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dogs being dumped - the credit crunch?? see UPDATE on pg. 5

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  • pboae
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    So they are pts? Could you not find a local no-kill rescue?

    Even if it were a kill-pound there would be nothing FC could do about it. Rescues are not allowed to take strays in, only pounds can do that. The only other option would be for FC to buy them out at the end of their 7 days (AFAIK it's still 7 not 5) then take them to a rescue. Assuming the pound let her have them (and there are many reasons why they might not) there's a good chance that all the no-kill rescues are full, and FC would be left trying to look after them for months until a space came up.

    It's very noble to want to save every dog, but until the basic problem, of too many dogs and too few homes, is solved, it's completely impractical.
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  • orlao
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    So they are pts? Could you not find a local no-kill rescue?

    loose dogs are a hazard I agree but it's an awful shame that they end up put down when they could have a second chance at life if they were adopted instead.

    where I live there are quite a few loose dogs but they aren't strays, just owned by idiots who are too ignorant/lazy/mean to build a fence to keep them in their own land.

    The rescues that don't pts are always near to bursting as you can imagine because until they rehome a dog they can't take in another one.....

    Most rescues that I know of will sometimes put a dog to sleep if they reckon it will be very difficult to rehome or if there may be a question about temparment as reputable rescues will always err on the side of caution regarding H&S understandably.Their view is often that it may be unfair to both the dog to stay in kennels for a very long time as that will not help their problems and that they cannot take the risk of rehoming a dog that may hurt someone either through aggression ( not that I think that the dog I referred to is aggressive!) or just their size and lack of training. Also, resources are finite and some rescues prefer to use those limited funds for animals that are "rehomeable". Sadly, I think it's a question of too many dogs and not enough homes for them and a limited amount of space available in kennels.

    I know there are rescues out there that don't pts :beer: but I wonder how much space they have and what criteria they use when accepting dogs:confused:

    I know I'm going to get shouted at now:o but there are times IMO that it isn't the worse thing to happen to an unwanted pet when there isn't a realistic chance of a new home......to go peacefully and quietly to the rainbow bridge....rather than stress in kennels/cattery for what may be a very long time if not the rest of their lives. However, the responsibility for that end rests squarely on the people who let them down in the first place....for whatever reason.
  • those dogs less fortunate end up on lists like this...
    http://www.dogrescuelink.org/?cat=3

    At the end of the day every puppy that is bred adds to the number of unwanted dogs in this situation. :-(

    Yes - I agree that being PTS is not the worst outcome, but it is a terribly sad one, and often the end of a sad and lonely life for these doggos.
  • trudij
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    I know I'm going to get shouted at now:o but there are times IMO that it isn't the worse thing to happen to an unwanted pet when there isn't a realistic chance of a new home......to go peacefully and quietly to the rainbow bridge....rather than stress in kennels/cattery for what may be a very long time if not the rest of their lives. However, the responsibility for that end rests squarely on the people who let them down in the first place....for whatever reason.

    not by me you wont - I completely agree. It seems hard, but sometimes....
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  • orlao
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    those dogs less fortunate end up on lists like this...
    http://www.dogrescuelink.org/?cat=3

    At the end of the day every puppy that is bred adds to the number of unwanted dogs in this situation. :-(

    Yes - I agree that being PTS is not the worst outcome, but it is a terribly sad one, and often the end of a sad and lonely life for these doggos.

    Yes, a very sad end and the saddest part is that the dogs are pts without anyone who cares about them being there IYSWIM.

    The poem about "Nobodys Dog " is so heartbreaking because it's true......
  • MrsTinks
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    I think that PTS is sometimes the kindest things you can do... My dog was only 12 months when she was in the rescue for the umpteenth time - she was a handful I'll give her that! And she gets severely stressed in kennels too so not a dog that appeals to many despite her very pretty looks :)
    As she'd been accused of human aggression as well as dog aggression she was on her last chance... And we've never seen her act even slightly aggressive to people - yes she was food possessive over treats when we got her but she was soon put in her place and now if I tell her to bring be that HUGE juicy meaty knuckle bone that she's enjoying tucking into... she will. And she'll hand it over without a fuss.
    But if she'd not been placed in a home where there was rules and oodles of patience I'm sorry to say I think the kindest thing for my dog would have been for the RSPCA to put her to sleep... Going from home to home was causing her way too much stress and it was showing. The difference in her between now and when we got her is fantastic.
    I often hear of death row dogs and wish I could convince DH that we have room for another - but the agreement is it's only an emergency measure and for as few nights as possible until a foster home or rescue place can be found. And not helped by Kira having issues with other dogs LOL
    What saddens me is when dogs with easily solvable issues are put down... food aggression can in MANY (not all) cases be solved with an experienced handler and a bit of work and preferably putting the dog into an experienced home afterwards...
    However if no homes are available then yes... I think it's kinder to euthanise the animal than keeping it in a kennel for 6 months...
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  • maytaurus
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    Re ‘’those dogs less fortunate end up on lists like this...
    http://www.dogrescuelink.org/?cat=3’’
    I cried when I looked at this
    I looked at my three (2 boys & 1 girl) aged 13 yrs,4yrs & 3yrs and I just wish I could give all the unloved dogs a home.

    orlao I am adding the link for the poem ‘’Nobody’s Dog’’ which I have just read again (I can't stop crying now :(:cry::angry:)

    and the DOG RESCUE LINK
    http://www.dogrescuelink.org/
    http://www.homes4dogs.co.uk/#/nobodysdog/4526156806

    It’s all so sad..............
    and like most everything else on this beautiful planet ...........
    All down to the humans !!
    PLEASE try your best to help support your local rescues and encourage your friends and family to do the same !

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  • UPDATE - Sadly, as I suspected, no-one has come forward and claimed these two dogs, despite me putting postcards up everywhere.

    I just spoke to the lady at the kennels who said 'no one claims any of them at the moment, love' - whilst I expect this is a generalisation, how sad that this is the trend and that people can chuck faithful old dogs like this out onto the streets, without a thought for their welfare - discarded like junk, as if they were just another fad, an object, a worn out toy or accessory whose novelty has passed.

    Please do not get a dog unless you can be certain you can look after it and support it, (maybe for the next 16 or 17 years), even when it is sick, demanding, expensive, disobedient and inconvenient - because dogs are creatures, not objects, and can be guaranteed to be all of these at some point.
  • maytaurus
    maytaurus Posts: 2,115 Forumite
    Quote from Animal Aid ,the UK's largest animal rights group and one of the longest established in the world, having been founded in 1977.
    ''Dogs are sentient creatures who form bonds with their guardians. They need stability and to make an emotional attachment.''
    I can't believe this !!!
    ''customers get to rent a dog for certain periods of time without accepting the responsibilities that come with owning an animal.''

    http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/f/ACTIVE/blog/ALL/1//?be_id=149

    ANIMALS ARE NOT FASHION ACCESSORIES OR STATUS SYMBOLS !!!
    GRRRRRRRR ..... HUMANS :mad:
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  • bertiebots
    bertiebots Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    maytaurus wrote: »
    Quote from Animal Aid ,the UK's largest animal rights group and one of the longest established in the world, having been founded in 1977.
    ''Dogs are sentient creatures who form bonds with their guardians. They need stability and to make an emotional attachment.''
    I can't believe this !!!
    ''customers get to rent a dog for certain periods of time without accepting the responsibilities that come with owning an animal.''

    http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/f/ACTIVE/blog/ALL/1//?be_id=149

    ANIMALS ARE NOT FASHION ACCESSORIES OR STATUS SYMBOLS !!!
    GRRRRRRRR ..... HUMANS :mad:



    That is one of the most disgusting ideas I have ever heard of ....lets hope that someone stops this before it starts.
    Its no wonder so many animals are left in rescues when people see them as disposable accessories. I notice a huge amount of staffys and staffy x's are being abandoned at the moment .....just one case that proves attitudes need to be changed to stop dogs becoming part of the latest fashion trend. Next it will be the small fluffy breeds :mad: :mad: :mad:
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