Getting a council house! is it possible anymore?

GlobalSquare

Welshwoofs wrote: »

Heh you're both right and 'phantasm' is the OP herself. I noted that both have the exact same misspelt words and both use the word 'gotten' which is quite unusual...outside the US.

Of course I'll still be expecting an apology for telling blatant lies about what I've supposedly said about you... now if you'd just care to pick which account you want to apologise from...

(It's a pretty sad state of affairs when you have to create fake accounts in order to be your own fan club...)

lmao got to hate people with bad spelling sometimes :rotfl: (personally im just glad with a badly spelt word as a lot of the time i tend to miss whole words out rather than just letters (my brain goes faster than i can type ))

Im sure it will be denied but you have to wonder :rolleyes:
I know my online friends all rip it out of me as they can tell from my errors and style which posts are mine with out seeing a name :mad::rotfl:

SingleSue

A single parent was reading the thread and did react to defend against the accusations of having loads of money to spend.

Me

I did however also give some practical advice on areas which could be cut down and also identify with the situation as I had been there many years ago (regarding having a young baby and very little money due to not adjusting to it yet).

I probably am twice the OP's age (or very near to it..she says wondering if an age was given, less than 19 I am, more than 19, I'm not!) but that doesn't mean we can't give advice, it means that probably quite a few of us have actually experienced hardship and have worked ourselves out of it too.

When our eldest son was born, even though I could drive, my car was off the road but I still managed to work on an early morning cleaning shift and as an evening care worker by using a bicycle, and this was when medically, I should not have been working at all but I did it because we were desperately trying to keep hold of our house (long story for another thread), in the end, we lost the house and I lost my health ending up with going into kidney failure and severe pnuemonia but even though I ended up so ill, it also gave me a sense of achievement that we had managed to keep it going for so long before finally my body said no...so yes, I think that qualifies me in being able to know where I am coming from.

Going back to before this, when we first rented our rent was very high compared to our incomings so I constantly strived to improve my job and therefore my salary so that paying the rent became almost unnoticable.

Even now, with everyone telling me that I should concentrate on my children and not to even contemplate going back to work as the care needs are so great, I am swimming against the tide....I have 3 children, 2 of those however are disabled and the work needing to be done with them takes up a whole lot of my time and energy but there are spaces in which I can work, so I am trying to get a job that fills those spaces so we can get off the benefits and I can get some pride back.

None of us are perfect, we all tell lies somewhere (How much was it dear? Oh this old thing?) but I think what got up people's noses was the way in which it was posted with the arguements re those on benefits, asylum seekers etc and the fact that the lie could deny someone who had a genuine and urgent need, of a place to live.

Yes, I admit to sometimes taking the moral high ground but come on, what else have I got apart from my morals when I am stuck in an at the moment no hope life (although striving to get out of it!). It is those same morals that prevent me from lying to get more money, lying to inflate my CV, lying to those nearest and dearest to me, that makes me give back overpaid amounts from cashiers in shops, to point out when they have not charged me enough etc and it is those same morals that makes me do the best I can all the time, anything less is a failure.

Unfortunately it is also those very same morals that makes me feel such a failure because I am on benefits and living in social housing....somewhere I don't like being and a situation where many years ago, I would have had the same views of some people on this thread who have completely demonised the single parent or person on benefits.

pawpurrs

Singlesue, social housing should be for people just like you, through no fault of your own, you have two disabled children, and need assistance, you are not a failure, far from it, you sound like a lovely lady, that against the odds, trys hard to make the best out of a set of difficult circumstances.
You gave the OP some good advice.

GlobalSquare

Just to say i totally agree with pawpurrs. I wouldnt class you as a failure sue what you have wrote/said is more inspiring imo ... no matter how tough things get if i ever have kids id rather they looked up to someone like you than half the supposed role models around these days

Grimbo_Green

Hello, 'Phantasm' is my sister. She is only sticking up for me. I was on the phone to her the other night because I felt quite upset by the anger I recieved from some of you.
'Welshwoofs' in particular - you come accross a very angry, aggressive person. Also I was reading on of your posts on another thread and you say how you come from a titled family, who had butlers and a house full of heirlooms, so you would never understand how the real world works.
Anyway Just leave me alone now, I wont be reading anymore of your comments so go and find someone else to get vent your anger on.

jay11_2

Singlesue, you have expressed the issues perfectly, thank-you hun.

I'm another one witha limited income, high rent, etc, I can't afford to live anywhere near my family (who've lived in that area for generations, WHY does that give me priority? )

I also have an OH, healthy kids and I'm fit and able bodied, in my opinion that makes me very lucky, and defenitely means that I'd be selfish if I lied or fought to get a resource that is needed much more by people who have REAL need.

avinabacca

Grimbo_Green wrote: »

Hello, 'Phantasm' is my sister.

Yeah. Right. :rolleyes:

Phantasm = Grimbo Green. Fact.

I claim my five pounds........

TotallyBroke

Phantasm wrote: »

I am disgusted by the angry comments and insults that have been directed at the OP by some of you who are probebly twice her age, and old enough to know better (Avinabacca and welshwoofs).
In fact I would go as far to say that a few of you are nasty bullys.

You left me off this list and I am actually about the same age as OP/ Just checked her age and will admit I'm only 7 years older than her. And now knowing your her sister I'm very surprised I wasn't mentioned on this list considering I got a pm from her telling me exactly what she thought of me. Boohoo not.

Phantasm wrote: »

What is it exactly in the original question that has gotten you so mad? I really can't to believe its due to the fact that the op admitted to contemplating telling (shock, horror!) a lie, because every single human being has told a lie at one point in their lives, and if you cant admit to that, then you are LIARS!
So what is the real reason why you are so angry???

Exactly the fact that she was going to defraud this country (and me) by telling lies. Yes I have told a lie when I was a child and when I was caught out (as all liars do eventually) I had my mouth washed out with washing up liquid. But again I will say that two wrongs do not make a right. Just because others have lied does not mean that OP should

Phantasm wrote: »

Someone comes on here asking for advice and all you have done is judge her, call her (in an indirect way) a theif, a bad parent, stupid, racist, a chav with a baby who will recieve an asbo, someone without morals........ it is totally uncalled for.

Again as above you left me out the the hit list. It was I that said she was a bad parent for not teaching her child good morals. I also said that by teaching her child to have no morals could turn them into an ASBO statistic. Which again I told her in my pm reply. Was I the only lucky one to get a pm.

Phantasm wrote: »

You all say that she should basically shut up and be grateful for what she has and how dare she even consider wanting a bit more money for her family. if I remember correctly this website is called: MONEYSAVINGEXPERT! as the op pointed out herself: you wouldn't be on here if you weren't wanting to save money yourselves, this is all she is trying to do.

You are quite right this is a moneysaving website. But nowhere on this site is there a section that says moneysave by telling lies and at the cost of other hard working people

Phantasm wrote: »

Also in an earlier post the op said she lives in Somerset - I don't know how many of you are aware of this but the west country is one of the most expensive places to live in England - house prices are second higest to London yet wages are low.

Well I live in London. Earn less than the bus drivers and can still manage to survive by good mse tipsPlease can I have a medal or gold star for doing so please. I don't need a council house I bought an ex council house from someone that had bought it with a massive discount

Phantasm wrote: »

I am part of a generation now who will never be able to get a mortgage and will never get a council house - I will be private enting for the rest of my life yet I still have to pay hight rent because house prices are so high at the moment that I suffer too - it's not just people with mortgages who are suffering

You will never get a council house maybe but there is no reason why in the future you could not get a mortgage. All you will need to do is work hard to achieve it. You can achieve almost anything if you put your mind to it.

lowis

not much else to be said really now is there? there's no point in bickering anymore, everyone has their opinion, i think we are all tired of listening to them now. No-one is going to win this and it is bordering on the ridiculous. I declare this thread dead. have agreat weekend everybody!

avinabacca

lowis wrote: »

I declare this thread dead.

Resurrected. :dance: