Are we as a society basically broken?

Gangstabird

Max_Headroom wrote: »

Somebody once said to me, never ever intervene between an arguing couple, even if it is getting physical, as like as not you'll just end up with them both turning on you.

I genuinely don't know what I'd do if I saw a gang attacking someone (beyond phoning the police), easy to sit an hypothersise, different again when it's actually happening in fornt of you and you have to make the snap judgement.

If you were in the same bit of the train and it's late at night, and they saw you. You wouldn't. Trust me. If one person saw you on the phone phoning the police, you have had it. Not worth leaving my children without a Mum.

GDB2222

Would religion help? How do you manage that when most people don't believe in God? Some sort of celebration of the human spirit maybe?

Gangstabird

I think that the answer is to educate children and show them the victims of attacks, maybe pay them to go around the schools etc.

Also, detention centres need to toughen up. Not give children the chance to take a degree in 'Game Playing'. It needs to be tough, more army based and lashing should be bought into it. Harsh harsh harsh so that no boy/girl ever wants to go back. Idealistic I know but how else are we to control the children.

I was at a party recently and my DS began to hurt children on the bouncy castle. I talked at length to him but really I wanted to slap his bottom in front of all the kids to make him behave. I couldn't because I was worried that someone might report me for abusing my child. NO I didn't do it when we got home as the moment was lost. But, it really bought home to me how much we are allowed to discipline our children.

We ain't. We have to talk them to death. He went right back and done it again. I kind of give up.

Before you say it. Remember the boy who did graffitti in Singapore or some such place. They DO NOT have a problem with it there.

carolt

Could you not just shout at him and promise removal of everything he values in the world?

When I tell my kids off, they know I mean business. And I am not in the tiniest bit embarrassed about what anyone else might think about it. Usually works.

pickledpink

fc123 wrote: »

Credit Crunch...snappy, to the point, makes your mouth a funny shape when you say it. Am designing a range this week entitled....The Credit Crunch Multiway Selection.
And I don't make sweets or chocs....

Crunchie Bar...snappy, to the point, makes your mouth a funny shape when you're eating it.

I like that. I bet I'd win a T-shirt (maybe a weekend for 2 in Bognor) if I submitted that in a competion!:j

pickledpink

Are Crunchie Bars still around (or have they changed the name:o ?)

Optimisticpair

Phirefly wrote: »

Being a natural optimist, I would ordinarily respond to this with a confident 'Yes! Course thats how it will be' ... lately though, I'm finding myself suspecting people are going to sway the other way and priorities will be looking out for #1

Hmm, yes, but if you as #1 are ok it puts you in a much stronger position to be of any help to someone else in position #2.

hethmar

pickledpink wrote: »

Here's a perfect example of how vile some people in society have sunk.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1065033/Troubled-teenager-threw-multi-storey-car-park-roof-onlookers-told-jump.html

And it seems some of the people who post on this site are from the same gutterscum breed.

Absolutely horrifying pink. It seems to me that this society is becoming increasingly sadistic - that there is little value of human life and people are losing their humanity/souls. I despair, I really do.

neverdespairgirl

ray123 wrote: »

The influence from Brussels has caused a number of problems; the biggest has to be the issue of Human Rights. Criminals and young hooligans are being protected by this and good hard-working citizens are being neglected, nay, kicked in the teeth by these bureaucrats. These fat cats do not even have to run for re-election, where is the democracy in that?

I bow to no-one in my dislike of the Euro, but the European Convention on Human Rights isn't an EU thing, it's completely separate.

neverdespairgirl

fc123 wrote: »

Credit Crunch...snappy, to the point, makes your mouth a funny shape when you say it. Am designing a range this week entitled....The Credit Crunch Multiway Selection.
And I don't make sweets or chocs....

You are way behind the times. A nasty shop near Holborn tube sells, among other donoughts, "Kredit Krunch"