MSE Parent Club - Part 2

Sami_Bee

janey_uk wrote: »

Hello!
I am Mummy to a five month old girl and made the mistake of buying a clunky Graco travel system. I'm looking at a Phil and Ted's sports buggy on kiddicare. It looks like a great deal (£299 including double kit and cocoon) but I'm really unsure what to get. It's such a lot of money to get wrong! Does anyone use one of these?
Thanks

If you are planning on having another baby then I'd say go for the P&T but if not as ur LO is almost 6 months I'd just get a buggy i find that most people get a buggy between 6-9 months anyway as prams get too heavy, a pain etc.
I've got a Cosatto Diablo which was about £70 off ebay its suitable from birth so would be fine for your LO, I love it but am v. excited about finally getting round to using my P&T

Sami_Bee

lwcus78 wrote: »

SB-yes we tried coleif. TBH, not sure that it made any difference:o Like nadnad had trouble giving it as LO breast fed. Our GP wouldn't give it on prescription either. I found another company making the lactase enzyme (which is what coleif is) I'll have a look and if its cheaper i'll post it here.

LO managed to take to a bottle today!! I'm so happy - usins MAM teat. DH is going to take over feeds friday night so I can have a good nights sleep. Gotto go he's just waking for another feed .....

you're welcome hope your LO keeps up the good work

SeptemberBaby_2

nadnad wrote: »

i tried colief for a little while but i had trouble getting it into oz as you have to put it in expressed milk and when he was suffering with colic he wouldnt take a bottle at all. apparently it is very good if you use it often - also make sure you get it on prescription cos its £10 for a teeny tiny bottle!

lwcus78 wrote: »

SB-yes we tried coleif. TBH, not sure that it made any difference:o Like nadnad had trouble giving it as LO breast fed. Our GP wouldn't give it on prescription either. I found another company making the lactase enzyme (which is what coleif is) I'll have a look and if its cheaper i'll post it here.

Thank you!

I have got it on prescription but it was from a locum doctor. Hope my own is as accomodating! Didn't realise it was so expensive :eek: and after reading the leaflet was surprised it was on prescription as its stated as not a drug? .. Have started using it today and he is fast asleep as I type (fingers x'd its not just coincidence!).

xx

lwcus78

SB-glad you had coleif on prescription. If your own GP wont then there is a company called Biocare which do a lactase enzyme. It's £11 but you get 15ml.
Sami-Bee-yes thanks for suggesting Mam teat. It means I can now go to my friends hen do in 2 months time leaving DH with the bottle of expressed milk! Cant wait! My HV told me to have a look at the teats in Boots and to pick the one that looked most like my nipple. I just had visions of me there holding the teat up next to my boob!!:rotfl:
I'm ready now to tackle the next bad habit i've got LO into. I thought as your suggestions were so good last time i'd ask your advice again. LO will only go to sleep if we pace back and forth in a dim lit, quiet room. He wont sleep if we just put him down in the cot. Its no problem at the moment as he's only 12lbs. However, I dont think I'll be able to keep it up much longer as he gets heavier. I dont want to try the ferberisation (leaving him cry in the cot) method. Has anyone else had this experience/know of a way to come out of this habit?
Thanks girls, hope you all have lovely day xx

Lu_T

Hi Lwcus

My OH came up with our night-time routine for Imogen and we'll be using it again. It went something like this:

• bath
• feed in room where LO will be sleeping, dimly lit (we bought this from JoJo - http://www.jojomamanbebe.co.uk/detail.php?productid=ST03060&proddesc=Auto+Fade+Light&supercategory=&branch=&wcategory=&catdesc=&treecode=TRE00009 - and will be putting it in TJ's nursery when he arrives in July. We're still using it in Imogen's room!)
• cuddle LO and say "ssshhh," with every out breath while patting LO on back. Absolutely no rocking (but you might want to continue rocking and make it gradually slower over a few nights until you don't do it at all)
• BEFORE LO falls asleep, but when sleepy, carefully place them in moses basket (or whatever they are sleeping in) and continue sssshhhh-ing
• slowly back out of the room while ssshhh-ing

We found that if she woke up shortly after we left we could stand at the bottom of the stairs and ssshhh and this would settle her. In extreme circumstances we would go back in and repeat the ssshhh-ing routine without picking her up out of her basket. We would sometimes pat her chest or just place a hand on it so she knew we were there.

What we were keen on was making sure she could fall asleep on her own and this routine seemed to do that trick. She's always been good at going to bed while still awake and falling asleep on her own. Don't know where OH got the idea from, but we'll be repeating it with the next on in July!

HTH?

Just having a rare bit of 'me' time while Imogen naps - she goes to playgroup this pm so it's nap before lunch on Thursdays instead of after. Then I get nearly 2 hours to myself while she's there - hurrah! I have some work to do though, so will have to get that done before I can nap :rolleyes:

nadnad

lwcus78 wrote: »

I'm ready now to tackle the next bad habit i've got LO into. I thought as your suggestions were so good last time i'd ask your advice again. LO will only go to sleep if we pace back and forth in a dim lit, quiet room. He wont sleep if we just put him down in the cot. Its no problem at the moment as he's only 12lbs. However, I dont think I'll be able to keep it up much longer as he gets heavier. I dont want to try the ferberisation (leaving him cry in the cot) method. Has anyone else had this experience/know of a way to come out of this habit?
Thanks girls, hope you all have lovely day xx

Oz had really bad sleeping habits, - he would only fall asleep whilst bf and it was terrible because EVERY time he stirred at all in the night he would wake and i'd have to feed him - he'd sleep til about 9pm (from 6.30) then be up every 2 hours until he was 6 months old :eek:

I bought Elizabeth Pantley's no cry sleep solution which didnt work for us at all - she advocates not letting baby cry but to pick up and soothe and take boob out before baby falls asleep - we tried this for a couple of weeks resulting in Oz not going to sleep for ages and then when he did he woke every hour :eek: :eek: .

I then bought Healthy Sleep Happy Child (or something like that), and he says everything in No Cry Sleep solution was wrong (but of course!) he said there was a fundamental non understanding of sleep science in that book. He advocated letting baby cry it out. And so one night i was brave enough to try it and Oz cried for 25 mins and fell asleep, he woke 10 mins later and i thought here we go - this time he cried for 5 mins and he slept for about 4 hours before waking!

Within a week I was able to put him in his cot AWAKE and he would either go to sleep with no crying or he'd moan and groan for maybe 5 minutes and go over. He still wakes in the night but usually only twice so for me thats great.

I think i just needed to break the habit of being nursed to sleep and the gentle no cry method just wasnt working. And since he's been sleeping better at night he now has at least a 2 hour nap each day - which never happened before!

I know some people disapprove of leaving baby to cry and i know its hard (boy do i know!) but in my case it was the only thing that worked.

nadnad

course i just blighted myself by writing that - cos he just woke up! but i guess he was due to :rolleyes:

lwcus78

Thanks, i've already got into bad habits. I'll try the no cry method first. If I have to maybe i'll then try the crying method. 25 mins isn't too bad. My friend baby cried for hour and a half before he fell asleep. Wish me luck! x:o

tsstss7

[HTML][/HTML]I used the cry sleep solution too - just got too tired and frazzled to care after a while and would do the bed time feed and put him down go down stairs and turn up tv for ten mins lol! If he was still crying after that I would go and do another feed and repeat.

I agree it is hard to always have the good habits - espeacially if you have problems (we had lots of colds early on and it seemed to really affect sleeping alongside disruption due to going on holiday). If you can get it right in the first 6 mths you are likely to be rewarded I think. However don't get complacent like me, I had it sussed (at 6.5mths) , then we went on two holidays in two months and after the second one Lo had lost his ability to fall asleep alone completely. As he was so unsettled in a new bed/place I ended up feeding him to sleep every day while on holiday as he would not sleep at all otherwise.

He is still a bit bad but now when he goes to bed at night but I only get extended crying if there is a genuine problem (eg dirty nappy) rather than "I dont want to be in bed" thankfully -although he will try it on if he wakes up and hears daddy as daddy will still get him out of bed to be soothed as it is "easier" (for him maybe)...:eek: I've stopped this bad habit by warning daddy that I will leave him to it next time he does it without my consent first although now I'm getting a full nights rest I'm not using that frosty voice when I say it and only half mean it!

Lu_T

We also let Imogen cry, although not until she was a few months old. It didn't take long for her to figure out that we weren't coming any time soon. I think we started at 5 mins and increased the length of time we left her every time she cried.

I firmly believe what the Baby Whisperer says that it takes 3 days to create a routine, and 3 days to break it!

Good luck.