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Parking ticket in Asda car park - Is this legal, can they take me to court?

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  • Tim_Deegan
    Tim_Deegan Posts: 6,027 Forumite
    oldone wrote: »
    This is wrong. If you lent your car to someone who then went on to break the speed limit, or rob a bank, you as the owner would not be liable.The police may ask you who was driving, and you would legally have to tell them.

    In the same way, if a PPC issue a parking ticket it is the drivers responsibility, not the owners.Since this ticket is a civil debt, the PPC cannot make the registered owner reveal who was the driver.

    Sorry you are wrong. I have a letter here from Norfolk Constabulary from when my driver was caught over the limit by a speed camera. It actually says that I am obliged to reveal who the driver is, but if I don'r then I am liable as the keeper of the vehicle (the owner is actually Citroen Contract Leasing).
  • Tim_Deegan
    Tim_Deegan Posts: 6,027 Forumite
    I don't know of anyone who condones parking in these spaces. I've think that embarrassment would be a better deterrent. Imagine parking in a disabled space and coming back to find an A3 sheet with "I'm parking in a disabled space and I'm not disabled" on your car. (Easy remove glue of course) I bet most perpetrators would not do it again. But that won't happen as they only want the money.

    Good idea, but the trouble is that most people who park in them have no shame anyway :confused:
  • peter_the_piper
    peter_the_piper Posts: 30,269 Forumite
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    Tim_Deegan wrote: »
    Sorry you are wrong. I have a letter here from Norfolk Constabulary from when my driver was caught over the limit by a speed camera. It actually says that I am obliged to reveal who the driver is, but if I don'r then I am liable as the keeper of the vehicle (the owner is actually Citroen Contract Leasing).

    As we said previously, if its police pay up, you are not likely to win. Private parking companies always try to con the keeper when only the driver is responsible and you don't have to say who this is unless requested by a judge etc.
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
  • Tim_Deegan
    Tim_Deegan Posts: 6,027 Forumite
    As we said previously, if its police pay up, you are not likely to win. Private parking companies always try to con the keeper when only the driver is responsible and you don't have to say who this is unless requested by a judge etc.

    It was in reply to oldone who said that the owner isn't liable (even with a police fine).
  • Tim_Deegan
    Tim_Deegan Posts: 6,027 Forumite
    This thread has caused a lot of arguments. In fact some of the people who have come on this thread have obviously done so just to stir up a hornets nest. The fact is that if people had respect for others and themselves, then there would be no need for these fines, charges, or whatever you want to call them.

    Most out of town supermarkets don't charge for parking, and many of the ones who do will give a refund at the till. The ones who do charge do so to prevent people just using their car park to either just go shopping in other shops, or to go to work. This is so that the the spaces can be used by their own customers. However most of them do allow enough time to do a weekly shop in the supermarket, then go to quite a few shops in the town. So if the supermarkets what to reserve their expensive land for shoppers in their store, and they also want to decide who can park where in the car park, then we are on their land, so we should follow their rules.

    Forget how big many of the supermarkets are, they are just a business. They are in business to make money. So they either make money out of us when we buy from their store, or if we aren't shopping in their store, then then charge us for parking. It is their land so it is up to them how they make money from it. If any of you owned a plot of land and decided to turn it into a business by charging people to park on it, then you wouldn't be too happy if someone all high and mighty kept parking on your land, but refused to pay, saying that there is nothing you can do to get the money out of them.

    So think about it........a bit more respect for others around us wouldn't go amiss. That includes business owners who are also earning a living.
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    The answer to their problems is not to con people into thinking they have committed a crime.

    If they want to make some money out of parking charges they are going to have to invest in barriers and pay on exit. Or use their influence to get the law changed.

    In the meantime people getting these letters through the post are entitled to come to this money saving website for money saving advice without getting a sermon on why they should just pay up.
  • Tim_Deegan
    Tim_Deegan Posts: 6,027 Forumite
    Quentin wrote: »
    The answer to their problems is not to con people into thinking they have committed a crime.

    If they want to make some money out of parking charges they are going to have to invest in barriers and pay on exit. Or use their influence to get the law changed.

    In the meantime people getting these letters through the post are entitled to come to this money saving website for money saving advice without getting a sermon on why they should just pay up.

    Obviously someone with no respect for others :confused:
  • peter_the_piper
    peter_the_piper Posts: 30,269 Forumite
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    The first company to charge £5.00/£10.00 instead of £50.00/£100.00 will find they save £2.50 on DVLA fees and the wasted cost of letters because most people would not bother to ignore/contest them, and this part of the site would be out of business. All the while they invoice people for silly amounts they will get peoples backs up and cause themselves a lot of work.
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Tim_Deegan wrote: »
    Obviously someone with no respect for others

    And who was this obviously written by? Seems like a troublemaker??

    If you don't agree with a post, then maybe you'd get somewhere by arguing the point, not by simply abusing the writer!
  • Tim_Deegan
    Tim_Deegan Posts: 6,027 Forumite
    Quentin wrote: »
    And who was this obviously written by? Seems like a troublemaker??

    If you don't agree with a post, then maybe you'd get somewhere by arguing the point, not by simply abusing the writer!

    If someone parks on your land where you have signs up to say that they must pay to park there. And your car park business is funded by the parking fees. Then what right does someone have to just refuse to pay????

    Those trying to get out of paying should be ashamed of themselves.
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