Parking ticket in Asda car park - Is this legal, can they take me to court?

Tim_Deegan

peter_the_piper wrote: »

Sorry to say but this is tosh. The only way a Bailiff will call is for the PPC to take the driver to court, extremely unlikely (its easier to scam the unwary and misinformed), win the case. judge to order a payment, and you to not pay this. Whatever happens its only the driver thats liable (in a ppc case) its not the registered keeper. This does not apply to a council/police ticket which must not be ignored although its possible to get a council one canceled. With the police the best advice is to pay up.

Like I said, I was going mainly from memory from a TV program ages ago. However what you said about it only being the driver is complete tosh. If the owner refuses to reveal the driver then they are responsible.

peter_the_piper

This only matters if in a court case the judge asks who the driver is, then you would have to answer truthfully, if the PPC asks there is no law which says you have to remember and say just who was driving. They like to say there is as their only reason for existing is to get money. When you take on a PPC to prevent non customers using your car park, the only way they make money is by actually failing to do what they are contracted to do.

Tim_Deegan

peter_the_piper wrote: »

This only matters if in a court case the judge asks who the driver is, then you would have to answer truthfully, if the PPC asks there is no law which says you have to remember and say just who was driving. They like to say there is as their only reason for existing is to get money. When you take on a PPC to prevent non customers using your car park, the only way they make money is by actually failing to do what they are contracted to do.

So when people fail to pay for parking, then follow your advice and don't pay the fine (or whatever you want to call it), they will just start using clamps, which you WILL have to pay to be released from.

sarahg1969

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

they will just start using clamps, which you WILL have to pay to be released from.

In theory, yes. However, they are quite easy to remove. And, in any event, supermarkets would not want to alienate customers and potential customers, so it won't happen.

You should beware once debt collection agencies are involved, because they will send the bailifs round to clamp your friends car. By this time the total fee to release the car could be over £500.

As Peter says, this is rubbish. Clamping for an alleged debt would be illegal, and bailiffs would have no rights to do anything without a CCJ. And for a CCJ to be registered, they'd have to issue proceedings (unlikely), get a judgment (even les likely) and then you would have to fail to pay the judgment debt.

Tim_Deegan

sarahg1969 wrote: »

In theory, yes. However, they are quite easy to remove. And, in any event, supermarkets would not want to alienate customers and potential customers, so it won't happen.

One thing they did say on the program I saw was that they are easy to remove. However if you are seen damaging the clamp, then you can be charged with criminal damage. If they don't see you, then they can't do anything.

Jazzedup_2

Thanks for comments. Have posted on Fines also.
Any one else got some advise??

Its all starting to get a bit stressfull. Really not sure whether to just pay up and then I can forget about it ??
:mad:

so2006

Jazzedup wrote: »

Thanks for comments. Have posted on Fines also.
Any one else got some advise??

Its all starting to get a bit stressfull. Really not sure whether to just pay up and then I can forget about it ??
:mad:

Your username is funny :rotfl:

so2006

I think whoever parked in a disabled bay, deserved it. Dont park there. It for the disabled HENCE the name disabled bay. Simple aint it?

And the ops all "raining" thing, aint good enough!

What incase loads of disabled ppl came?

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN!

Or crap, i over exaggerate lol

peter_the_piper

I don't know of anyone who condones parking in these spaces. I've think that embarrassment would be a better deterrent. Imagine parking in a disabled space and coming back to find an A3 sheet with "I'm parking in a disabled space and I'm not disabled" on your car. (Easy remove glue of course) I bet most perpetrators would not do it again. But that won't happen as they only want the money.

oldone_2

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

However what you said about it only being the driver is complete tosh. If the owner refuses to reveal the driver then they are responsible.

This is wrong. If you lent your car to someone who then went on to break the speed limit, or rob a bank, you as the owner would not be liable.The police may ask you who was driving, and you would legally have to tell them.

In the same way, if a PPC issue a parking ticket it is the drivers responsibility, not the owners.Since this ticket is a civil debt, the PPC cannot make the registered owner reveal who was the driver.