Parking ticket in Asda car park - Is this legal, can they take me to court?

consultant31

sarahg1969 wrote: »

Or to use a disabled bay when you don't need to (even if you DO have a blue badge), just because it's your "right" to do so. I'm sure plenty of blue badge holders don't need them in supermarket car parks. And how many times do you see a driver sitting in the car, just waiting? That is just as inconsiderate as a non-badgeholder using a bay.

The driver sitting in the car may not be the disabled person for whom the badge is intended. If I take my Mum anywhere and she wants to pop into a shop herself (instead of me going for her) I will wait in the car if I don't want anything myself. I can't see where this is inconsiderate at all. However, it would be very wrong of me to go into the shop and leave Mum in the car, having used a disabled bay.

This argument could go on forever, as there wil always be a minority of people who are too selfish, idle and ignorant to forego using a disabled bay if one is available, it's just the way they are.

I must say though that I take exception to the number of Parent & Child bays which are available to parents with children up to the age of 12!!! Why does a parent with an average 12 year old need to park in a special bay? I can understand when there are baby seats to be lifted in and out - obviously you need to be able to open the doors quite wide, but I can't fathom the reasoning behind the age limit imposed.

Tim_Deegan

ben500 wrote: »

Bit touchy aren't we Tim, I didn't say I use them I suggested it as a reason behind people's contempt for them. Disabled badges are available to just about anyone these days and there is no guarantee that the holder is disabled in any way shape or form, can you not see that this undermines the meaning of the whole system and gives many the excuse to park in disabled bays when they see fit?

It shouldn't be easy to get a blue badge, and will be getting more difficult very soon. Using that as an excuse is like saying I broke the speed limit because someone else did.

Tim_Deegan

ben500 wrote: »

No money isn't the key issue the penalty itself is the key issue as it is unenforcable and touted as a fine which it is not.

Your also assuming that someone who parks within a disabled bay but not displaying a badge is able bodied and has no right to do so.

I witnessed an exchange in a local supermarket less than two weeks ago, a man pulled into a disabled bay (no badge) a young female alighted from the passenger door and ran into the supermarket, whereby a middle aged woman immediately approaced the man and started remonstrating with him, swiftly joined by another passing female who joined in with her, it got quite loud with both of them demanding he display his badge or move on, at that point the young female came back pushing a wheelchair and the man who incidentally had no lower limbs {something both the hags had overlooked in their zealousness} opened his door and was assisted into the chair, both of the females still remained indignant and even suggested that his passenger should move the vehicle to another bay, to which she replied and quite rightly so in my opinion, "Fvck off you nosy pair of old bags my father lost his legs fighting for his country he doesn't need a blue badge he's got medals instead"

So wouldn't it have made sense if he had displayed his blue badge to save the argument. Or even explained that he had no legs to the two women?

Tim_Deegan

consultant31 wrote: »

The driver sitting in the car may not be the disabled person for whom the badge is intended. If I take my Mum anywhere and she wants to pop into a shop herself (instead of me going for her) I will wait in the car if I don't want anything myself. I can't see where this is inconsiderate at all. However, it would be very wrong of me to go into the shop and leave Mum in the car, having used a disabled bay.

This argument could go on forever, as there wil always be a minority of people who are too selfish, idle and ignorant to forego using a disabled bay if one is available, it's just the way they are.

I must say though that I take exception to the number of Parent & Child bays which are available to parents with children up to the age of 12!!! Why does a parent with an average 12 year old need to park in a special bay? I can understand when there are baby seats to be lifted in and out - obviously you need to be able to open the doors quite wide, but I can't fathom the reasoning behind the age limit imposed.

:T :T :T

My son is 4, and I wouldn't dream of using a P&C parking space because he can get in and out of the car himself without me having to open the door wide and lift him out. And he can walk happily from the far side of any car park to the supermarket entrance (unlike some lazy selfish people who have posted on here).

Blakespops

I personally think it should be illegal to use disabled bays without displaying a blue badge no matter if your disabled or not. thats what the blue badge scheam is for after all. you abuse it then you should be punnished by law.

ben500

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

It shouldn't be easy to get a blue badge, and will be getting more difficult very soon. Using that as an excuse is like saying I broke the speed limit because someone else did.

It shouldn't but it is, they are even bought and sold over the internet. Are you paying attention this time Tim? I have never said I use disabled bays therefore I don't need an excuse, incidentally I don't speed either. As for it getting more difficult very soon what about the multitude already in undeserved hands?

ben500

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

So wouldn't it have made sense if he had displayed his blue badge to save the argument. Or even explained that he had no legs to the two women?

Maybe he did I don't know, he wasn't given the opportunity before the tirade started. As for informing the hags about his missing appendages how stupid do you have to be not to notice that someone has no legs, no doubt at some point they did but still decided to continue because they had already commited themselves to teaching this person a lesson, they may even have used the fact that he hadn't displayed his badge quickly enough to justify this who knows? Nice to see how sympathetic you actually are to the disabled though that you put the display of a badge over and above the absence of limbs as evidence of disability and worthyness.

Tim_Deegan

ben500 wrote: »

It shouldn't but it is, they are even bought and sold over the internet. Are you paying attention this time Tim? I have never said I use disabled bays therefore I don't need an excuse, incidentally I don't speed either. As for it getting more difficult very soon what about the multitude already in undeserved hands?

So why are you making excuses for people who do???

Tim_Deegan

ben500 wrote: »

Nice to see how sympathetic you actually are to the disabled though that you put the display of a badge over and above the absence of limbs as evidence of disability and worthyness.

Give it a rest.......it's just like until recently when you had to display a tax disc to show that you had paid the tax on your vehicle. If you display a blue badge it shows that you are entitled to park in disabled spaces.

andyrules

ben500 wrote: »

Maybe he did I don't know, he wasn't given the opportunity before the tirade started. As for informing the hags about his missing appendages how stupid do you have to be not to notice that someone has no legs, no doubt at some point they did but still decided to continue because they had already commited themselves to teaching this person a lesson, they may even have used the fact that he hadn't displayed his badge quickly enough to justify this who knows? Nice to see how sympathetic you actually are to the disabled though that you put the display of a badge over and above the absence of limbs as evidence of disability and worthyness.

So what do you suggest - no badges but people carry around their health records to prove that they are entitled? You have just really negated your own post - Tim and I are trying to point out that some people need these spaces and don't require them to be taken by someone who thinks they know better:rolleyes:. If you have a disability that is considered 'worthy' enough for a badge, then you get one and display it. Carrying it around and displaying it is easy. Getting around isn't. And as consultant has explained and your little scene verifies, it isn't easy to spot the disability instantly, I'm sure the 'hags' (as you so charmingly put it) would not have challenged the chap if they had spotted his injury, or, indeed spotted his badge;);)