[TEXT DELETED BY FORUM TEAM] Marketing Company - YOU WILL NOT BE A MANAGER ONE DAY!!!

Phil1990

Damn, I wish I found this thread last night.

I basically had my initial interview for Platinum Force in Liverpool last night, after applying for the company last week. I received an email saying that I should call them and arrange an interview. I forgot to do this for a few days, then received a phonecall from them saying that I should attend an interview (yesterday) I figured that since they bothered to contact me that I must offer something they want. Now after reading this thread, and going by what Mr Arshad said, it seems a bit silly for them to contact me if they are receiving such a huge influx of applications (I believe the figures mentioned were 140 applications from just 5 adverts..ahem.)

But yeah, everything I've read in here ticks all the boxes, as much as I don't want it to. Though in place of the expensive looking safe, in my case it was a cabinet filled with "expensive" wine.

I guess in all my desperation in wanting a job I didn't see all the signs that this apparent world class business was nothing of the sort. Office space above Oxfam, really?

Anyway, long story short, I've been offered the job. Filled with all kinds of rage now and I have no idea what to do.

james87

I was duped into having an interview with one of these con artists a year or so back and now it seems my mate has also fell for one of these scams. The company is a new name which I dont think has been mentioned before - Outsource Ten - and his interview was in manchester.

At least both of us were suspicious and never went back to the second interview.

alwe150789

james87 wrote: »

At least both of us were suspicious and never went back to the second interview.

I'm glad your mate realised...there was a girl who worked with me who almost broke off her engagement because of the stress it put on her relationship and how often her fianc!e said she was wasting her time.

james1200

Just like the other posts listed on here. Live Marketing is the biggest scam out there. It is simply pyramid selling and cold calling on unsuspecting people in the community. After working for this company for a week. I am very sorry to say, that all the rubbish that you are told on your interview about sales not being important and its about customer services is completley false. Every day you are pushed through some motivational speech where you hear about the amount of money the owners and managers are earning weekly and if you one day want to be there you need to push as many sales as possible. For those of you who choose to work for a get up like this and then decide its not for you (after all you are apparently 'self-employed') DO NOT expect to be paid any commission for the sales you get. So in the space of a week, I have lost money, badgered people into donating to charities, worked an 80 hour week for NOTHING! Pure scam!!

gingerwhinger

bombastic wrote: »

Ok, so the same thing happened to me with Bradford Marketing in Manchester. I realised what had happened when I was leaving following the first interview. I got the call later to come back the following day so I said I would but then took the following action. I wrote an email back to the company stating the following;

'Matt,

After coming to your offices yesterday and having being 'interviewed' by your new 'Managing Director', Mr. 'Philip Alexander' if that is his real name I decided this job is not what it has been made out and is certainly not for me. Whenever I asked a question Philip replied with a vague answer and to be frank the offices were like a 3rd world dentist filled with cheap furniture and lack of equipment. The office had no trace of the name of the company and the MD did not even have a computer on his desk! It seems as though these backstreet offices have probably been rented on a very short term basis for a very low price.

This is no legitimate company without a company website and instead prides itself with a link to the talktalk website. I do not even see the relevance of this link. The website was so unclear like you 'kids' interviewing. Which company tells everyone to come at the same time to be interviewed? Ridiculous.

There is no pay on this job; it is commission only from a simple, lowly regarded job of door to door sales. You have mislead and lied to these poor graduates who have spent money travelling to your 'offices' and you will probably call everyone back to do your door to door sales of ripping off and annoying the public for pennies.

I am surprised a person like yourself who seemed honest and pleasant could be involved in such a setup. If you don't know and haven't been paid yet I would walk out right now because believe me you will get paid peanuts.

I'm annoyed I even got dressed to impress, wasted my time and paid money travelling to get scammed and now i feel sorry for all those clueless graduates that will turn up today. Employees of 'bradford marketing' should be ashamed of yourselves. You are bad people. I will be reporting you.'


I received a reply from them and they were very apologetic. They even offered to reimburse my travel expenditure.
So after this I went to report them. I phoned trading standards explaining what happened. They said they didn't deal with this and forwarded me another regulators number. They too forwarded me another number and whoever I phoned did not seem interested or want to know. I even spoke to the police at one point. It was so frustrating since I was trying report a problem so that it could be dealt with lawfully. Instead of these regulators responded they don't deal with this matter and passed me on to another number. Instead they should take it upon themselves to bring the matter to the appropriate departments attention. I think its ridiculous and a complete joke that there are so many British regulators that are funded by the tax payer and don't even do what they are supposed to do.

This is why these scam companies are allowed to operate and do not get closed down. So I don't know which is worse; the fact these hit n run marketing companies are exploiting young, unemployed people to work for peanuts or the fact that there are so many UK regulators that turn a blind eye to the problem.....

If you want to report them try HMRC. They may be more interested as they aren't operating paye for their subcontractors who are really emlpoyees

alwe150789

james1200 wrote: »

For those of you who choose to work for a get up like this and then decide its not for you (after all you are apparently 'self-employed') DO NOT expect to be paid any commission for the sales you get. So in the space of a week, I have lost money, badgered people into donating to charities, worked an 80 hour week for NOTHING! Pure scam!!

They're not the brightest pple m8 - try throwing sum legislation at them and tell them you'v sought legal advice. They will probably pay you for the week - if you got any sales of course. If you didnt, you havnt a hope in hell!

grace0x

I had been applying for jobs all day on various sites, the following day i got 3 separate phone calls of 3 business' all inviting me for an interview they seemed very keen even though i have no previous experience. When i received the email to conform the interviews i noticed they was all in the same building 20 Dickinson St! i found this strange and googled the company's Primus, froutline events and Bradford! Scam and Cobra just keep coming up. 2 of the interviews were for the following day which was a Saturday which I found strange as interviews are never usually held on a Saturday. I didn't attend these interviews but i was still curious so decided to go to the one on the following Monday. When I arrived there was a lot of other people waiting for interviews some for the company's i had been asked to go to. I found this strange, when i went in she didn't really ask many relevant questions but told me it would be door to door sales and going to events. I told her i was looking for more office work so left it at that. The next day i got an interview for paramount force, with the interview again being for the next day and it sounding suspiciously the same I googled it which led me to this forum. The job is in a different location but again sounds the same so i will not be attending the interview and would like to warn others who do. If you don't want to be working on the streets and door to door don't waste your time attending these interviews!! xoxo

kaitlynbomb

I forgot about these companies for a good while.

I am now 25 and i have a career as a trainee personel manager now but back when i was starting out i remember applying for one of these jobs with a company called Arcedia, i remember going for the interview with and asian man called Sam. I was 18 and had just left college and decided i wanted to go into managementso this seemed the perfect opportunity for me. My first interview was eactly how it was described woman on a reception desk a few people in the waiting room

(Can i ask if the people in the waiting room are planted there? or are thay also people who are about to have their dreams crushed?)

Sam then took out a toy guitar and was making out that it ws a fun company to work for gave me the old "you dont have to be mad to work for us but it helps" (we now all know you would have to be completely tapped to have anything to do with them.)
Still baffled slightly as to what the job entailed I was asked to come back for a secnd interview the next day thinking it was office based i though i would be spending the day filing etc... but noo of course the above mentioned process of going out door to door happened. Unfortunately for them I cottoned on to what it was although slightly too late as i was on a housing estate some 7 miles from home with only enough money to get me into the town center, when i told them that i wanted to leave the 'trainer' said to to me "we didnt think this job was suited to you anyway" i saw this as him trying to put me down but i simply wasnt bothered by it, before i left o go out with the trainer i was told to leave my bag in the office as it would be safe it was left in the interview room, but when i arrived back at the cotton exchange to collect my back the woman on the reception desk had it was almost as if she knew i was coming to collect it.

Anyway today on facebook a friend who has been looking for a job for a little while seemed really happy that she had an interview so when i asked where she said JMS marketing, i felt awful telling her to be careful with them but before i had the change to another person had told her it was a scam. My friend having a part time job was leaving to go to work so i looked into it for her properly and came across this thread i think it is totally disgusting that this still goes on and wonder if there is any one who this can be reported to because surely it should be illegal

any replied will be greatly appreciated, i dont like that people are still being conned by these crooks:(

s1992_2

JMS Marketing are another one notorius for this sort of bullshi*. I worked there for about a month after going through the same exactly interviews and false promises that alot of you guys have done. I quit on the day that my first pay had been promised to me 11th Feb (after 3 weeks) also after having a £100 bonus promised to me for getting 3 applications on my badge in my first day. I still have not been paid and contacted my mamanger on sunday and asked him when i would be paid. He replied-tomorrow. Again he was !!!!!!!!ting me, after all the chances i have gave him to just give me an honest answer as to when im going to get paid instead of constantly lying i am going to seek legal advice and hope i can get help to doing something about it (not exactly sure what my options are) but this is just a joke. I cant believe how many people on here have had similar experiences and i just wish i had researched this before i took the damn job!!

hatecobra

Does anyone know what's happened to Oratory Commerce on Dale Street Liverpool? Is it still open or have they been shut down??????

Oratory Commerce was a scam anyway!