Overcrowding laws?

HisDoris

Yes the 19 and 20 year old are working, well the 20 year old is obviously on maternity atm, I'm by no means saying that my aunt did the right thing by having so many children - she infact took 4 of her husbands kids on so that they wouldnt be taken into care. I understand that they should have stopped having children as soon as they realised they didnt have the space/money. I dont think they are by any means 'right' in what they have done but I didnt post so that my family got slated. I just wanted to show how bad things really can be!

Yes the 19 and 20 year old could get a flat, house share, anything really! I dont know why they dont, suppose they enjoy living at 'mummys' too much! ..

chocs2010

tbs624 wrote: »

Check back - oldtractor's post mentions four adults ( parents and two sons) in a two bed terraced house. The point s/he seemed to me to be making was that you have to "cut your cloth", as others have said.

I have little sympathy for extreme cases of families such as HisDoris's relatives. Most of us stop producing kids once our finances/living accommodation have been sufficiently stretched. What prevents the 19 and 20 year olds in that family getting a room each in a shared house, via the private rentals market? Are they working?


Chocs2010 - have you tried seeking out a 2 bedroom property? Not ideal but clearly an improvement on what you already have.

Haven't read the whole thread so is there a reason why you couldn't look for a property in the private sector ( other than not wanting to give up social housing rights)

even with my partner working full time we dont have enough money to private rent,we are still trying to pay off last years council tax.
i have also looked into going back to work but by the time i take into account childcare costs we would be worse off.

pmlindyloo

OK, let's try a different approach.

If you post on the Debt Free Wannabe board (start a new thread )http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=76

and fill out a SOA (statement of affairs) they will go out of their way to help you with your finances and hopefully free up some money so that you can afford to rent privately.

Having read through your thread I feel that this is your only option - private renting.

chocs2010

pmlindyloo wrote: »

OK, let's try a different approach.

If you post on the Debt Free Wannabe board (start a new thread )http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=76

and fill out a SOA (statement of affairs) they will go out of their way to help you with your finances and hopefully free up some money so that you can afford to rent privately.

Having read through your thread I feel that this is your only option - private renting.

i dont think we can take the risk to rent privately at the moment,my partner gets paid every friday and mid week we have nothing left and no this is not us being careless with money its once rent,council tax,water,electric,food etc have been paid it leaves nothing left.

elvis86

HisDoris wrote: »

Im trying to show the OP that it doesnt seem to matter how overcrowded people are the council seem to be useless in helping!

What you actually showed, is that no matter how overcrowded some people are, they seem to be useless in being responsible and proceed to have more kids than they can provide for/accomodate, and then whinge endlessly and expect "someone else" to sort it out.:cool:

The moral of the story? Contrary to popular belief, having children is not your God-given right, and you should really ensure to the best of your ability that you can provide for them prior to having them. The state should be there to help people who fall on hard times, not those who find themselves overcrowded through their own irresponsible actions.

pmlindyloo

I am going to persist with this one!

Are you sure that you are receiving all the benefits you are entitled to?

Please, please go over the Debtfree board. They are fabulous people, not at all judgemental and have great ideas for surviving on very little money.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained!

chocs2010

pmlindyloo wrote: »

I am going to persist with this one!

Are you sure that you are receiving all the benefits you are entitled to?

Please, please go over the Debtfree board. They are fabulous people, not at all judgemental and have great ideas for surviving on very little money.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained!

we are not entitled to benefits as my partner works over 40 hours a week.
so we cant claim housing benefit,housing allowance,working tax credit,income support etc.

chocs2010

pmlindyloo wrote: »

I am going to persist with this one!

Are you sure that you are receiving all the benefits you are entitled to?

Please, please go over the Debtfree board. They are fabulous people, not at all judgemental and have great ideas for surviving on very little money.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained!

i am very grateful for your advice and thankyou but we cant save what we dont have,my partner works all the hours he can and its truly upsetting to see because we both know its not enough.
when you have the council wanting their tax and rent you have no choice but to pay it.

elvis86

chocs2010 wrote: »

i am very grateful for your advice and thankyou but we cant save what we dont have,my partner works all the hours he can and its truly upsetting to see because we both know its not enough.
when you have the council wanting their tax and rent you have no choice but to pay it.

I'm sorry, but I have little sympathy. It's no surprise that the council "want" their tax and rent. They "want" it off me too, and just about everyone else in the country for that matter (the council tax at least). I'll bet your rent is nowhere near what I'd have to pay for a one bedroomed flat..:cool:

Deciding to have a child when you were living in a one bed flat with no possibility of being able to afford to rent privately/buy a bigger place was foolish.

Deciding to have a second child when you were still living in a one bed flat with no possibility of being able to afford to rent privately/buy a bigger place, was very irresponsible.

Deciding to have a third child when you were still living in a one bed flat with no possibility of being able to afford to rent privately/buy a bigger place, was madness.

No doubt every time you thought "the council will have to give us a bigger place now". Well, I for one am glad to hear that this kind of attitude doesn't always pay off, despite what the Daily Mail/The Sun etc would have you believe. You've nobody to blame but yourself.

And you would have escaped my "nasty comments" if you'd left when you said you were going to, rather than coming back bleating about how outrageously unfair it is that you have to pay council tax and rent.;)

chocs2010

elvis86 wrote: »

I'm sorry, but I have little sympathy. It's no surprise that the council "want" their tax and rent. They "want" it off me too, and just about everyone else in the country for that matter (the council tax at least). I'll bet your rent is nowhere near what I'd have to pay for a one bedroomed flat..:cool:

Deciding to have a child when you were living in a one bed flat with no possibility of being able to afford to rent privately/buy a bigger place was foolish.

Deciding to have a second child when you were still living in a one bed flat with no possibility of being able to afford to rent privately/buy a bigger place, was very irresponsible.

Deciding to have a third child when you were still living in a one bed flat with no possibility of being able to afford to rent privately/buy a bigger place, was madness.

No doubt every time you thought "the council will have to give us a bigger place now". Well, I for one am glad to hear that this kind of attitude doesn't always pay off, despite what the Daily Mail/The Sun etc would have you believe. You've nobody to blame but yourself.

And you would have escaped my "nasty comments" if you'd left when you said you were going to, rather than coming back bleating about how outrageously unfair it is that you have to pay council tax and rent.;)

wow,your comments are very telling of the kind of person you are.
i was asked if it would be possible for us to private rent and was just giving my answer as to why we cant.
you know nothing of my situation and it is not for you to judge why i became pregnant with my children,that is nothing to do with you.
you know what is unfair..how people on benefits pay something stupid like £10 a week rent and how the benefits office pay their council tax as they are not able to help themselves and get a job.
we pay over £100 per week rent which might not seem like a lot but at least its paid with hard earned money.