Tenants next door are prostitutes - help please!!

poppysarah

olly300 wrote: »

Shame you don't know anyone in that community to inform them of what he allows his properties to be used for.

In part of Oldham the local community took up patrols to stamp out prostitution on the streets

http://www.oldhamadvertiser.co.uk/news/s/1062351_red_light_fight


If people turn up at the house for "trade" then a polite sign stuck on the local lamp-posts saying that car numbers are reported to the police and traced through the DVLA.

SquatNow

Sagaris wrote: »

American Express? And do you give Clubcard points? :rotfl:

No respectable tradsperson takes Amex or Diners Club.

Amex charge the retailer 10%!!!!

bluejake

Sagaris wrote: »

I’m having a few problems with the tenants next door – this will probably be a long post in the wrong place so apologies in advance on both counts.

I bought this house 11 years ago; the house next door was sold and rented out about 7 years ago. Many tenants have been and gone in that time, but the latest lot are horrible.

I didn’t really notice them much at first, then a few neighbours approached me in the street to see if I was aware what was going on next door – all 4 of them on separate occasions said they thought the 2 girls living there were prostitutes!

At that time they used to be fairly quiet, various cars (really tatty old BMW’s and Audi’s, out of date or no tax) would collect then at around 10 am every day and bring them back home around 11 – midnight. After a couple of months of this, various men would visit the house at night, stay for a couple of hours, then leave, shouting across the street at the girls, and the girls shouting back (goodness knows what as they aren't speaking English).

Then they started visiting at all times of the day, stay for a while then drive off – the shouting and door slamming had to be heard to be believed.Now they have gone back to the 'night shift' and it's intolerable. I told the landlord about this, and the fact that the constant shouting, yelling, (both indoors and out) at all times of the day and night was getting us down – we can’t remember the last time we had a decent uninterrupted night’s sleep, last night we slept for 2 hours. He said his hands are tied and there is nothing he can do as tenants have rights and he can’t evict them – he is aware they are working as prostitutes and says the police have searched the house and found nothing.

I have contacted the police myself a few weeks ago before it got really bad, and they seemed to be aware of the problem but were not really interested – they did tell me that as they are eastern European they probably carry knives so not to approach them directly! Not that you would really want to…..

So today I have emailed the police neighbourhood team, the local councillor and the community safety people at the council to see if they can offer any advice, but can anyone tell me if there’s anything else I can do?

I’d love to move house in the next year or so and really didn’t want to do anything ‘official’ as I know you have to declare any sort of neighbour disputes – but I’m finding things increasingly difficult now, I can put up with a lot of things but sleep deprivation isn’t one of them!

Thank you for reading if you’ve got this far!

This just seems to be rumour and innuendo to me tinged with racism. Nothing you have written is any evidence that they are working as prostitutes.

Men speaking to them in their own language are more likely to be friends rather than punters. I would guess that the majority of punters would be English and both parties would be discrete.

Stop being so nosey and blaming them for every car door that closes - what on earth you expect the Police to do about people using cars in your street is beyond me. It isn't a crime. Have you got super sensitive ears? Two hours sleep a night? What do you think people who live on main roads do?

And just to cap it off you don't want to do anything 'official' (like what - east Europeans using a car isn't illegal) because you want to sell to someone else without informing them that you only get two hours sleep a night! What a delightful person you are. I wonder what the East Europeans think of you - maybe they have heard that British nosey bigots all carry knives.

Sarahsaver

The local authority deals with noise nuisances, not the police;)

real1314

Hmm, lots of landlord bashing, even though it seems the police have already been round with his permission and found nothing?
So, how exactly do people htink he'll be done for immoral earnings if he's had the plod round and their hands are tied?
And why all the smut and innuendo?

I can't wait for these tenants to post their story.

"My landlord wants me out, says there's rumours about me locally and neighbours are complaining"

Cue replies - "He should keep his nose out"; "Nosey neighbours"; "Your private life is private"; and finally "Don't go without a fight, he'll have to take you to court". Many of these lines have been posted by some of the people on this thread in the past, but then again some people just say the same things with the same bias regardless of the situation.

I think it's plod you need to get busy with, they have a bit more power than the landlord. If they can't prove anything, the tenants can dig their heels in for some time

ad44downey

Maybe you'd get half price seeing that you're their next door neighbour??

SquatNow

If a house is being used for the purposes of prostitution is generally pretty obvious.

If the girls are bringing home various random men and having sex with them there is little else that could be. I could imagine one of the girls being a complete !!!!!!, but all 3 is pretty unlikely :P

Plus as I understand the OP can hear what is going on next door through the walls...

If it's got so bad that the OP had had to do what they have done, then it's definately being used as a brothel.

If you think the OP could be mistaken, then you are very naive.

bluejake

Nothing that has been posted is evidence of prostitution - it is simply rumour and innuendo about outsiders. If most of the visitors are speaking a foreign language I would guess they are part of the residents extended family or community who - being alone in a foreign country - are helping each other out and spending time with each other. Their house may be a social hub.

I doubt prostitutes and punters would be shouting across the street loud enough to wake the neighbours as they wave goodbye. And the punters are likely to be English.

Nothing I have read is evidence of anything illegal or even a noise nuisance that the council could do something about.

I suggest less gossiping about outsiders. Why not make friends and ask them who their visitors are? Then invest in a pair of ear plugs if you are such a light sleeper and stop curtain twitching and get on with your own life.

BridgetJones_2

bluejake wrote: »

Nothing that has been posted is evidence of prostitution - it is simply rumour and innuendo about outsiders. If most of the visitors are speaking a foreign language I would guess they are part of the residents extended family or community who - being alone in a foreign country - are helping each other out and spending time with each other. Their house may be a social hub.

I doubt prostitutes and punters would be shouting across the street loud enough to wake the neighbours as they wave goodbye. And the punters are likely to be English.

Nothing I have read is evidence of anything illegal or even a noise nuisance that the council could do something about.

I suggest less gossiping about outsiders. Why not make friends and ask them who their visitors are? Then invest in a pair of ear plugs if you are such a light sleeper and stop curtain twitching and get on with your own life.

I think that's the point. No sleep = misery. Ear plugs are not a long term solution esp when the OP wants to sell her house. Is she going to have to time viewings around their *working* hours?

Oh and the landlord is aware that they are working illegally. See the first post.

PasturesNew

Wait for punters to go in, then phone the police and say you're sure you saw a man with a gun enter the premises.

Keep that up ....