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Desperate - ripped off on my credit card in a lapdancing club

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  • Halloway
    Halloway Posts: 1,612 Forumite
    Hmmm. exel1966 and HeadInSand (and a few others) seem to have gone quiet.
  • hethmar
    hethmar Posts: 10,678 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker Car Insurance Carver!
    What a pity about the blood/wee test being too late - why didnt your mate contact you quicker aswell.

    Oh well, I think you are brave going ahead with it. Very good luck
  • MJ2008_2
    MJ2008_2 Posts: 24 Forumite
    hethmar wrote: »
    What a pity about the blood/wee test being too late - why didnt your mate contact you quicker aswell.

    I wish I had Hethmar - but had thought it was only me, and didn't want news of my stupidity to circulate. Turns out he was thinking the same, although he was spared the same level of financial loss...

    Hindsight, eh? (On so many counts.)

    Looking into hair tests, incidentally, to verify the spiking notion...
  • vet8
    vet8 Posts: 877 Forumite
    I am amazed how cynical people can be, it never occurred to me to doubt the OP’s post, but then maybe I am too honest and trusting.

    My interpretation of the whole thing is this. I am sure he was drugged as it is VERY unusual for anyone to get so drunk that they forget everything and if they were that drunk they would probably be throwing up or passed out. In fact it is highly likely that he was unconscious for the entire episode.

    Also, even when drunk you very rarely do things that are so out of character. Yes, some slick city high flighers spend £20,000 in these places, but the OP is clearly not someone given to do that. I went to a sports awards dinner a few years ago and got extremely drunk, right off my head, I have scant recollection of the last part of the evening and only a sketchy idea of how I got back to the hotel. I awoke at 5.00 am. still dressed in my posh frock on the bed. I had a whole load of things I had to bring back from the dinner; awards I had won, ones I was carrying back for other people, handbag, shawl, programme etc. etc. and what impressed me was that I had got all of these. I had paid the bar bill and got back safely. Talking to friends after I had recovered from the monumental hangover, they said I was clearly very drunk, but did nothing really out of the ordinary and I am sure that most people do not do things that are really out of character no matter how drunk they get.

    So the OP is drugged, then the waitress gets him to pay for a round of drinks using his card and she finds out the PIN. That is easy, I expect it is dark in these places so he cannot see clearly, he is too drunk to enter the numbers quickly, she leans over him seductively and reads it as he enters it. She might even have one of these card machines which read the PIN. Once she has got that she either does not give him back his card or waits until he passes out and takes it from him. Then they swipe the card at intervals spread out throughout the evening so it does not look too suspicious, and most importantly put the card and receipts back into his wallet. Without the receipts he would have been very suspicious when the bill came in.

    I am sure they do this a lot and probably get away with it frequently, a lot of men would be too embarrassed or afraid of their wife finding out, or may think they had really spent this money. I am surprised the police are not interested as this is fraud on a large scale.

    I wish the guy luck and hope he gets his money back and gets these crooks locked up.
  • Halloway wrote: »
    Hmmm. exel1966 and HeadInSand (and a few others) seem to have gone quiet.
    Some of us don't spend hours staring at the forum waiting for updates!
    Ok, no £1 coins toward the £4k...but the solicitor sure is pricey... :)
    I'd rather be cynical than gullible any day! Added to that, the story is a carbon-copy of a scam that has played out many times before, if we saw this elsewhere on the board, would you prefer it if we just sat back and let the scam continue? It matters not if it's a genuine example this time, at least it's now been highlighted and I'm betting the OP isn't offended, I'm sure he himself can appreciate how it looks.

    Remember to keep your mouth closed at night, did you know that every year people eat an average of... :grin:
  • Halloway
    Halloway Posts: 1,612 Forumite
    HeadInSand wrote: »
    Remember to keep your mouth closed at night, did you know that every year people eat an average of... :grin:

    If you kept your mouth closed you'd suffocate.
  • vet8 wrote: »
    I am sure he was drugged as it is VERY unusual for anyone to get so drunk that they forget everything.

    Also, even when drunk you very rarely do things that are so out of character.

    From experience, particularly my student days, I would disagree quite strongly with both of these statements :beer:
  • moike
    moike Posts: 104 Forumite
    jamalfatty wrote: »
    From experience, particularly my student days, I would disagree quite strongly with both of these statements :beer:
    I know exactly where you're coming from, I would also disagree strongly.
    I can't remember how many times I've forgotten everything !! :D

    Regards
  • Halloway wrote: »
    If you kept your mouth closed you'd suffocate.
    Halloway's got no nose.

    How does he smell?

    Bl00dy awful.
  • i1189
    i1189 Posts: 200 Forumite
    For what it's worth, I think it would be possible to enter a PIN while drugged. We think that my OH was drugged a while back in a bar. He has a reasonably high tolerance of alcohol, but had only 2 glasses of wine (confirmed by colleagues). He ended up like a zombie, but somehow managed to get himself home in a cab. When home, he stared blankly at me for ages, which was very unnerving, then sat on the kitchen floor in his suit for a while (he would NEVER sit on the floor in a suit!), and eventually fell asleep. He doesn't remember any of this. He believes whatever he took was meant for one of the girls in his group as several of them were drinking wine. If he could manage to direct a London cabbie 30 miles to our home, which is not easy to find, I think entering a PIN on autopilot would be easy.
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