Weekly Flylady Thread 18th August 2008

nicki_2

I'm not planning on any more for a while, and ATM it would be an immaculate conception anyway :rotfl::rotfl:

Right, more research :rolleyes:

Dustykitten

Just did an M&S order with some sale stuff, extra 15%, pigsback points, extra points on m&S card and free delivery - just hope it turns up!

jimjams_mommy

Valli wrote: »

But again - whose business is it - they don't know your situation. In my case, having had 2 c sections carrying on would have not been a sensible choice - but do I really have to justify my choices to complete strangers - should you have to? It ain't nobody's business ...
Oh S*d it. I'm spilling. My choice, and my then husband's choice, was to have two. Well, we were blessed. He wanted a son, then a daughter (actually I didn't - but I did want two...) When I conceived DS I KNEW (mystically?) that this would be a boy - bit I also 'knew' that I would have a C section! Why? dunno - my mum had 3 natural births, as did my sister before me... at one point it looked like a breech. In the end, 2 weeks over I was admitted and after an unfeasibly long, unsuccessful labour, the op was decided upon. When pregnant with DD and things looked like they were going the same way, again WAY overdue, I 'demanded' and was granted a planned c section.

I was pleased that I had carried 2 babies to plus term - didn't mind about the sections.

Midwife asked me to speak to expectant mums after DS was born. She started off by suggesting we talk through the birth. I double checked that she wanted me to tell my (frankly not brilliant - 2 day labour then section) story - she did, so I did. One of the (first time) pregnant mums was appalled I had not given birth naturally and asked if I felt I deserved a healthy baby not having given birth naturally!
My tart retort was - all I cared about was walking out of that hospital with a healthy baby and that's what I did. I breastfed - and he came out of hospital at 5 days old back up to birthweight.

They really do feed us a load of b*****s about this.

I breastfed DD too - but not having given birth naturally I am not a good mother BULL S**T.

You make your choices - number, feeding type, whatever. I used to tell people I breastfed because I couldn't be faffed with making up all those bottles!

I feel I have to jump in with my view on birth, having strep B and a child with a lung condition that I feel is from it.

When my DS and all our kids starts school will they line them in

one row for c sectons children?
one row for bottle feed children?
one row for breast feed children?
one row for breach births?
one row for assited births?
I think not,
My son is 18 months, I also share the view we can be forced views, as my hospital pushed natral third stage ( after birth delivery without drugs ) I said yes, when I moved house and changed hospital I was told keep an open mind. I had the injection and am glad I did I nearly died with my loss.

everyones experience is theirs, the same as their view of child birth. At the end of the day there is no right or wrong.

But one last thing, am I being over senstive to be insulted by being asked if my pregancys were planned ( bearing in mind I have be married for ten years and 32!)

pigpen

and I am not even getting started on the births.. or the sh!tty hospitals or the disgusting staff or the fact if I had any more I'd go give birth in a tent in the middle of africa because it would be safer and more sensible than having ababy here.. not strong views at all!!

sinderella_2

oh, pigpen, you and your mild, insipid, banal, dull views, really, you're so....gentle..no, I got it, you're so beige....(;))

and Valli - what goes on in some people's heads - 'do you think you deserve a healthy baby having not given birth naturally..' you needed one of Pigpen's charming insults to fire back at that madam.:mad: (rant over)

ps Nicki what is this research, is it the same course you were doing earlier in the (ahem!) summer?

pigpen

sinderella wrote: »

oh, pigpen, you and your mild, insipid, banal, dull views, really, you're so....gentle..no, I got it, you're so beige....(;))

and Valli - what goes on in some people's heads - 'do you think you deserve a healthy baby having not given birth naturally..' you needed one of Pigpen's charming insults to fire back at that madam.:mad: (rant over)

heehee.. thank you!!!

Valli.. Ahem 'I think I deserve a healthy baby after having my stomach sliced open! My muscle sliced through my bladder moved out of the way, risking future infertility and having it all sewn back together. Then months of pain while it healed!!'

Though of course I personally could add..

'I deserve healthy f***ing quads after having a midwife say they were waiting for my baby to die. Cutting my bowel open NOT stitching my internal organs back together and being infertile after it..'.. but then I am a drama queen!! lol

bonsibabe

Hello all

yes folks - I'M BACK!!!!! We moved out of the old horrid army house on 3 august, well thats when me and the little darlings flew home. Hubby came home a few days later. We are now esconced in another sh!tty mod house, that they are having the cheek to charge us double costs for, but am away from that place!

And some good news. DH started a new job today. Went for an interview last week, didnt get the job he applied for but the company offered him a head chef's job at £1 an hour over min wage and this will go up another £1 an hour after a few weeks.

the only downside is my local council. they have this archaic points system were everyone can get a house, just so long as you don't really need one. We have been accepted as homeless so we have a load of points, just not enough to get a house. But they still havent added my disability points or ones for DH being in the forces for 11 years. So spending a fortune on petrol to get to the council offices and another fortune constantly phoning them.

But trying to keep chin up, a bit hard when we are a 90 min drive from my mam and dad and Dh's work, and i have to take the kids to school tomorrow and its gonna take an hour to walk there, great for me with my problems with walking! Bummer was that last week we just missed out on a nice house by 5 points, dont want to think about it but think i may just have to call in the local mp.

Just forked out a fortune to get mobile internet as we cant get a land line here as well, we dont know how long we are gonna be here for. What a pain in the areas.

Will be back on tomorrow, off to bed as am knackered after todays trials and dribbles! speak to you all later on, Di xxx

nicki_2

No its research in bus routes and timetables for a trip I'm taking DD on tomorrow. She doesn't know where, but I'm trying to sort it out without letting on.

I should really get to bed. We need to be up and out for about 10am :eek::eek: :wave:

pigpen

Bonsi.. welcome back babe... we shall all send you new house vibes.. so don't go unpacking just yet!!!! I am glad hubby has found a job.. and the money will improve soon! Definitely contact the local mp... anything that will help. You can have a consultant write you a letter saying you need to be closer to school because of your problems with walking etc... anything is worth a try!!

polkadot

I breastfed DD too - but not having given birth naturally I am not a good mother BULL S**T.

Oh dear Valli you've taken me on a trip down memory lane I didnt want to take:(
But also to clear up Pigpens comment about Africa-I come from South AFrica and my two year old DS was born there.

I have cerebral palsy so my obgyn insisted on a c-section. Obviosly I didnt argue but the reason was very logical-my hips are lopsided and DS cord may drop before his head. My ex's brother is severely cerebral palsied and so you'd think DS's "grand dragon" would see the benefits? You guessed it. I was bad because I wouldnt even try.
After all that I couldnt get him to latch (I only have one hand that functions effectively so i struggled to help him). The nursing staff refused to let me give him formula saying that he would either suckle or starve which is the natural way. After being in for two days with no feeds I had my dad discharge us (Ds had jaundice unbeknown to us) and I started expressing and feeding him with a bottle. I did that until I was diagnosed with PND then put him on formula.
To this day DS "grand dragon" tells all who will listen that I proved I didnt care about my child by not trying to breast feed!!!
Needless to say in the year I have lived in England I have had two emails and one text from her-and no maintenance payments from her son.