Bandwith throttling-how to avoid?

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oneandonlyboy wrote: »

The cost would run into millions and millions and who would put the fiber in the ground? thats the biggest problem. Who would pick up the cost?? Traffic shaping would free up current connections for pennys(well a few £000's)

And herein lies the problem with VM. Instead of them laying out money to improve their actual network they've been complacent to oversubscribe and then enforce STM on their users to try and combat the problems.

Cat695

EVERY ISP has restrictions on how much you can download in one way or another.....either its fair usage or download capping

you either have unlimited downloads...but are throttled at certain times for downloading to much (traffic shapping)

OR

you have a capped download limit 30/60GB and will be charged a premium if you go over that (1pound per gigabite)

either way you don't have unlimited downloads at one price NOT ONE ISP DOES IT so therefore your traffic shapped throttled whatever you want to call it.....just in different ways and if you can't see that then you really do live in a bubble

PROLIANT

iviv wrote: »

Which is avoiding the problem. We have among the slowest broadband speeds in the first world, and for the highest prices. While the prices aren't unusual for the UK, we are slow!

Proliant, Google is ahead of you!

No, fiber WAN's are the soloution to the problem, beleive me.

oneandonlyboy

Yes a companies are already doing this, but that will only get you fiber to a local exchange. The problem comes with getting it from the local exchanges in the streets to the homes. If they use fiber thats a cheaper option at the moment as the price of copper is going up dailyThe other problem comes with termintion, a cost of a current pig tail and joint is about £30 then the cost of a router with a fiber card are higher than normal DSL or ADSL routers.

If this is install by one ISP what happens if you want to leave them and go to another??? the ISP with the fiber in your home can charge what they like for another ISP to use it, as they spent the money to install the fiber in the ground and to set up a connection in your home.

That is the biggest problem that the moment.

iviv

Right, lets have a look at Be Unlimited, for example.
Features:

• Up to 24 meg download speed
• Up to 1.3 meg upload speed
• Unlimited usage

In principal there are no download or upload limits on any of our broadband products, but they are subject to our “Fair and acceptable usage policy”.

To sum up the fair usage policy:
1. No illegal downloading
2. No up/downloading offencive, racist, etc, materials.
3. Not to be used for commercial purposes
4. No sending spam
5. No sending viruses
6. No invading privacy
7. No breaching a third party's rights.
8. No screwing up Be's network.
9. No DDoS attacks.
10. No letting others use the connection.
11. No sending lots of emails/large attachments.
12. No circumventing user authentication.
13. No sending viruses (again)
14. No spying on others using the network.
15. No illegal stuff (again)

So, obviously you can't download illegal stuff, but please tell me in which way this isn't 'unlimited'? There's nowhere that says '*Unlimited = 60Gb a month' or anything like that.

Cat695

iviv wrote: »

Right, lets have a look at Be Unlimited, for example.
Features:

• Up to 24 meg download speed
• Up to 1.3 meg upload speed
• Unlimited usage

In principal there are no download or upload limits on any of our broadband products, but they are subject to our “Fair and acceptable usage policy”.

To sum up the fair usage policy:
1. No illegal downloading
2. No up/downloading offencive, racist, etc, materials.
3. Not to be used for commercial purposes
4. No sending spam
5. No sending viruses
6. No invading privacy
7. No breaching a third party's rights.
8. No screwing up Be's network.
9. No DDoS attacks.
10. No letting others use the connection.
11. No sending lots of emails/large attachments.
12. No circumventing user authentication.
13. No sending viruses (again)
14. No spying on others using the network.
15. No illegal stuff (again)

So, obviously you can't download illegal stuff, but please tell me in which way this isn't 'unlimited'? There's nowhere that says '*Unlimited = 60Gb a month' or anything like that.

Try reading the T&C's before posting stuff like that!!!

What about excessive network usage?

If it’s felt that any Be member’s Internet activities are so excessive that other members are detrimentally affected, Be may give the member generating the excessive web traffic a written warning (by email or otherwise). In extreme circumstances, should the levels of activity not immediately decrease after the warning, Be may terminate that member’s services.


So again FAIR USAGE IS IMPOSED!!!! just a different way

Antispam

Not all do but they could if they wish. If you pay for a premium services as I do I dont get any downtime/slowness from my ISP at all

Tiscali are well known for throttling bandwith, you really get what you pay for

samhale wrote: »

Seeing as all ISP's throttle, that would make little difference.
Depends what you are doing, if you're downloading, wait to do it online when the Americans are online and Britain's aren't.
Most sites will work fine as will email, but if you are watching say the BBC iPlayer, then things will take a while.

Inactive

Antispam wrote: »

Not all do but they could if they wish. If you pay for a premium services as I do I dont get any downtime/slowness from my ISP at all

Tiscali are well known for throttling bandwith, you really get what you pay for

Same here, and I agree.;)

Inactive

oneandonlyboy wrote: »

No its not all, the big 5 current ISP already use traffic shaping, the other 40 are all well known ISP's .I dont see why people are getting all shirty about it, it will offers better speeds and improved service.

But you said " ALL " in an earlier post.:rolleyes:

Cat695

Inactive wrote: »

Same here, and I agree.;)

oh yeah your on IDNET that CAPS your download to 30/60GB a month and if you go over that pay a fortune

yep thats totally unlimited BB like i said living in a bubble