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IBM Thinkpad R50e laptop - £399

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  • DL discs are a bit expensive at the moment, just get a decent compresser then use a SL disc. Thx
  • rogerramjet
    rogerramjet Posts: 1,388 Forumite
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    Had a duel layer burning for a good while now and to date I've not burned a duel layer disc with it.....as horsenailbucket said they are a expensive atm.
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  • Guys,

    Bought one today, they have new stock in (after the original 20 that were pre ordered were sold).

    They do not do student discount (I asked).

    However if you don't like it you can return it within 14 days for a full refund.

    They may well be in other stores too - go on give them a ring!!

    Hope this helps.

    Nigel Mark
  • Premier wrote:
    As you have now had the product over a month, I think you have no chance of a refund. If the product was not as described you would need to have returned it immediately.

    is the wrong answer if its not as described he can return it in a reasonable time. you are not the arbiter of whether a month or three months or whatever period is reasonable. a judge is and needs to look at all the circumstances of the matter which you havent and i havent so dont mislead people that its just a month and thats it - because that is nonsense on your part.

    someone may not find it is not as described after much longer a period.
    .
  • Thanks for all the posts.

    The laptop was bought on 1-10.

    And Staples only point out the error on 28-10.

    And I didn't noticed that until I went in Staples last week.

    As the laptop is with my son at University.

    I email him and he did feel a bit disappointed and also mentioned to me that in the manaul features on page 4 ,it should have a video-out (S-video) standrad on all R50 model.

    This laptop didn't has a video-out connector.

    Some people will said £399.00 is very cheap price for a laptop.

    The price of the laptops are getting cheaper and the spec are better every month.

    But I think the main point is it did not as described .

    Thanks
  • Premier_2
    Premier_2 Posts: 15,141 Forumite
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    sainthalo wrote:
    is the wrong answer if its not as described he can return it in a reasonable time. you are not the arbiter of whether a month or three months or whatever period is reasonable. a judge is and needs to look at all the circumstances of the matter which you havent and i havent so dont mislead people that its just a month and thats it - because that is nonsense on your part.

    someone may not find it is not as described after much longer a period.
    My post is no more nonsense than your post - "Please be nice to other MoneySavers"! :mad:

    It is my opinion - every one of my posts is my opinion. The clue in this case is in the wording "I think you have no chance of a refund." :rolleyes:
    Your post is your opinion.
    My post is not wrong, although you are certainly welcome to a differing opinion.

    In my opinion (for the sake of clarity! :rolleyes: ), the goods were not mis-described.
    There was a printing error on the flyer (where I copied the original information from). There is a disclaimer on the flyer (which I did not include in my original post).

    The goods are not mis-described either in store, nor on the packaging. When you buy in store, you have the opportunity to inspect the product (it's on display!)

    Of course, you are welcome to take the case to court and the judge will decide - but if someone wanted to do that would they really bother asking on here? Surely the answer to every question regarding your legal rights is to go to court and let the judge decide, as the judge has the final decision. However, the judge will decide based on the law.

    You are correct, the law requires it to be returned in a reasonable time - that is because it would be unreasonable to expect someone to return the goods before they could identify they were mis-described. However how long does it take to establish that the disk drive is not dual layer? If everyone who had questions like this went to court, our legal system would soon come to a standstill.
    "Now to trolling as a concept. .... Personally, I've always found it a little sad that people choose to spend such a large proportion of their lives in this way but they do, and we have to deal with it." - MSE Forum Manager 6th July 2010
  • Premier_2
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    Thanks for all the posts.

    The laptop was bought on 1-10.

    And Staples only point out the error on 28-10.

    And I didn't noticed that until I went in Staples last week.

    As the laptop is with my son at University.

    I email him and he did feel a bit disappointed and also mentioned to me that in the manaul features on page 4 ,it should have a video-out (S-video) standrad on all R50 model.

    This laptop didn't has a video-out connector.

    Some people will said £399.00 is very cheap price for a laptop.

    The price of the laptops are getting cheaper and the spec are better every month.

    But I think the main point is it did not as described .

    Thanks
    So it appears that when you bought the product, it was mis-described to you. Of course you will need to be able to prove this - as I mentioned , my flyer has a disclaimer on it regarding possible errors and omissions. Does your receipt or packaging confirm that your laptop is dual layer? Or maybe you have an independant witness you can confirm in court that the salesman sold it to you as having dual layer.

    I still believe even with this proof, the question will arise over how long it took you to identify that the disk dive was not dual layer - you appear to suggest this was only apparent after you became aware that Staples had corrected their description. Anyone who had purchased this product could identify very quickly on opening the packaging that the disk drive was not dual layer.

    Furthermore, you suggest that Staples only corrected the error on 28 October 2005. Why? Yes this is the the date I first posted the correction, but that is not necessarily the date that Staples first published the correction. What proof have you that this is the first date that Staples corrected the information contained in the flyer - according to you you didn't notice the correction before last week.

    If you had bought the laptop as a present and had stored it unopened - you may have had grounds for returning it as it could be construed that you had done so within a reasonable time of discovering the mis-description. However, it appears you have used the laptop for almost 7 weeks and now you are thinking of returning it. I doubt a judge will find that reasonable - I'm sure Staples won't.

    I am sorry you are not completely happy with the product you purchased. Why not try selling it. You purchased it at a very competitive price and, with Christmas rapidly approaching, I am quite certain you could probably sell it on and recover your initial purchase price assuming it is still in as new condition.
    "Now to trolling as a concept. .... Personally, I've always found it a little sad that people choose to spend such a large proportion of their lives in this way but they do, and we have to deal with it." - MSE Forum Manager 6th July 2010
  • soolin
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    Can I please say a big thank you to all the people posting on this thread.

    I've just been to Staples at Chadwell heath and cancelled my order and rushed down to Staples at basildon who have several of this thinkpads in stock.

    My son is now the proud possessor on a wi fi laptop at a very competitive price. He also bought himself a great laptop bag reduced at Staples as well for £17.99 which came with a free notebook optical mouse.

    I would never have known about this laptop unless this thread had been here.

    Thank you everyone.

    Soo
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  • as400
    as400 Posts: 167 Forumite
    Bought one yesterday from Poole store which had 20 in stock.

    Brilliant! very happy with it.

    Fleets Lane, Poole, BH15 3BZ - 01202 685498
  • can anyone who has bought this laptop tell me if the battery life is good, plus do you think it is worth getting the extra 24months cover for £90, and tell me what the difference is and which is better. single layer or dual layer DVDRW
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