Which mattress? (merged threads)

Tim_Deegan

smartpicture wrote: »

I'm looking for a new Divan bed with a turnable pocket-sprung mattress with 1000-1800 springs (see, I have read some of this endless thread!). Medium firmness, up to £700, with 2 big & 2 little drawers. Any thoughts on these:
http://www.bedroomworld.co.uk/p/Airsprung_Symphony_1000_Divan_Bed.htm#
http://www.bedsdirect.com/product/Symphony_1000_divan_bed-18754
http://www.bedsdirect.com/product/Sussex__Deluxe_1000_Divan_set-19406

I find a lot of websites don't always show the number of springs, or whether it's a turnable mattress, which makes life difficult.

There's lots of advice on here about what not to buy, but where do you find these 'independent manufacturers' who are cheaper & better? I tried searching for bed manufacturers in Gloucestershire on yell.com, but that just brought up a load of joiners (who appear to make wooden beds, not divans with mattresses?). And when you find a website through google, how do you know if they're an 'independent manufactuer' or not? Any advice please?

If they just say pocket sprung, but don't quote the number (should be for a king size mattress), then I would normally suspect that it has a very low spring count.

If it doesn't say non turn then it should be turnable.

Most of the bed industry is in the Yorkshire/Lancashire area, so your best way to find independent manufacturers is to check our smaller independent retailers.

If in doub't about them being independent, then just ask me and i'll find out for you.

Tim_Deegan

divadee wrote: »

does anyone know what this bed would be like?

i want a double with 4 drawers

It's difficult to tell. The model in question is made for Yorkshire Bed Company, but for some reason they only use two pictures for their whole range of own brand divan sets. If you click here you will see what I mean.

Do you live anywhere near one of their stores so you can have a look?

Tim_Deegan

soconfused wrote: »

Follow up to my last post - I can see that there are positive reviews of Kozeesleep mattresses & Restus mattresses. I don't want to order one online without trying one out in the flesh - so where on earth can I find a stockist near to me in Oxfordshire?!!

Call them on 01924 526789, and they should be able to tell you who stocks them in your area (they are actually the same company).

Tim_Deegan

31210 wrote: »

Guys today I received my first memory foam mattress and so far so good, I know I'll need to spend a few nights in it first to either give it a thumbs up or thumbs down.

I bought the Yanis Memory Foam mattress and it has 5cm of memoryfoam at 80kg density. I take it this is a good density? The reflex foam has a density of 40kg.

It cost me £300 which I thought was reasonable, anyone bought Yanis mattresses before? I had to buy as soon as I could as I was suffering real bad with my old mattress and just couldnt bare it anymore.

I am now looking to buy my daughter a single mattress and have found another mattress which looks pretty good. Its called the Siesta Memory Foam Mattress and is sold by safield co uk. The density is only 65kg and I'm wondering if this is reasonable. Guidance needed folks, thanks :A

PS: I know TIM keeps going on about having the memory foam at around 2 inches as this will enable you to turn etc and not sink in too much, hence the reason why I went for the 5cm version of Yanis. But even then I find that I sink in a little bit and although not impossible, turning seems to require a little more effort. Still love the hugging feeling

Will give give my verdict on this bed sometimes next week. Lets keep it peaceful and spread the love :j <---- look at this muppet!

Thanks guys. Joshua.

The difficulty you experience turning will most likely be more to do with the density of the memory foam rather than the depth. A density of 65kg is an ideal compromise, and is considered to be the optimum.

Tim_Deegan

31210 wrote: »

Oh yeh Tim and everyone else, sorry but I'm still not able to post links, wonder how long it will take before that restriction is removed. Anyway regarding cancer and memory foam, just google MEMORY FOAM CANCER.

You will see a few sites/forums where they discuss memory foam and its cancerous properties.

I myself am scepticle about the whole thing, just dont see how the government would allow these mattresses to be sold and used in the UK had it been true. I hope I didnt cause any alarm but would be grateful if you guys looked in to it.

Cheers.

As you say they wouldn't allow carsonogenic chemicals to be used on mattresses manufacturerd in the UK. So you have to be careful with cheap foreign imports (often from China).

Some of the reports I have seen are just propoganda designed to make people spend more and by mattresses with latex foam instead.

dz1

31210 wrote: »

Guys today I received my first memory foam mattress and so far so good, I know I'll need to spend a few nights in it first to either give it a thumbs up or thumbs down.

I bought the Yanis Memory Foam mattress and it has 5cm of memoryfoam at 80kg density. I take it this is a good density? The reflex foam has a density of 40kg.

It cost me £300 which I thought was reasonable, anyone bought Yanis mattresses before? I had to buy as soon as I could as I was suffering real bad with my old mattress and just couldnt bare it anymore.

I am now looking to buy my daughter a single mattress and have found another mattress which looks pretty good. Its called the Siesta Memory Foam Mattress and is sold by safield co uk. The density is only 65kg and I'm wondering if this is reasonable. Guidance needed folks, thanks :A

PS: I know TIM keeps going on about having the memory foam at around 2 inches as this will enable you to turn etc and not sink in too much, hence the reason why I went for the 5cm version of Yanis. But even then I find that I sink in a little bit and although not impossible, turning seems to require a little more effort. Still love the hugging feeling

Will give give my verdict on this bed sometimes next week. Lets keep it peaceful and spread the love :j <---- look at this muppet!

Thanks guys. Joshua.

80 kg/m3 is a very good density for memory foam. Usually the higher the density the higher the quality, so it's a good choice. I only know of two mattresses that have a higher density than that.

5cm for thickness of the memory foam is really below the minimum you should aim for. 7cm is the minimum recommended by INDEPENDENT sources. You won't get as much support with 5cm but you may be alright if you are not too heavily built.

Tim_Deegan

dz1 wrote: »

80 kg/m3 is a very good density for memory foam. Usually the higher the density the higher the quality, so it's a good choice. I only know of two mattresses that have a higher density than that.

5cm for thickness of the memory foam is really below the minimum you should aim for. 7cm is the minimum recommended by INDEPENDENT sources. You won't get as much support with 5cm but you may be alright if you are not too heavily built.

80kg per m3 will give very good support, but it has a very slow recovery rate which makes it difficult to change position wich is why 31210 said that 'although not impossible, turning seems to require a little more effort'.

Higher density memory foam is more expensive to manufacture, but the density does not relate directly to quality. There would be no point in having a density of say 100kg and saying that it was the best density on the market because you wouldn't be able to sleep on it.

5cm is enough to contour to your body. So any deeper you would just sink deeper into it which can make you too hot.

The sites that state 7cm are very unlikely to be independent.

dz1, I'm trying to advise someone who is going to buy a mattress from another company as to which is the best option to go for, and give them the benefit of my experience in the field. I will not benefit from this at all. So contradicting me just to start another argument does not help anyone. I have years of experience in the trade, and in the design of mattresses, but you have just looked at a few questionable web sites. It is ok to give a personal opinion, but stating that your opinion based on limited experience is fact is not very helpful to anyone.

loulou41

I bought a slumberland memory foam deluxe divan bed costing about £500. That's the best thing I have done even my husband remarked how comfortable the mattress is. I suffer from chronic back pain and arthritis and this I am very pleased with the bed.

dz1

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

80kg per m3 will give very good support, but it has a very slow recovery rate which makes it difficult to change position wich is why 31210 said that 'although not impossible, turning seems to require a little more effort'.

Higher density memory foam is more expensive to manufacture, but the density does not relate directly to quality. There would be no point in having a density of say 100kg and saying that it was the best density on the market because you wouldn't be able to sleep on it.

5cm is enough to contour to your body. So any deeper you would just sink deeper into it which can make you too hot.

The sites that state 7cm are very unlikely to be independent.

dz1, I'm trying to advise someone who is going to buy a mattress from another company as to which is the best option to go for, and give them the benefit of my experience in the field. I will not benefit from this at all. So contradicting me just to start another argument does not help anyone. I have years of experience in the trade, and in the design of mattresses, but you have just looked at a few questionable web sites. It is ok to give a personal opinion, but stating that your opinion based on limited experience is fact is not very helpful to anyone.

I appreciate that you may be trying to help but some of your advice in the past has been proved wrong by test results and it conflicts with advice from independent sources.

My advice is based on some experience, but mostly it is based on test results and advice from independent sources.

What independent sources do you cite for your claim that 65kg/m3 density and 5cm thickness memory foam is best?

The only source you are using for that is YOURSELF. Not a good idea when you sell mattresses for a living.

Yes, the site that recommended a minimum of 7cm is an independent advice site, not linked to any one manufacturer or mattress seller.

I was not trying to suggest a 100kg/m3, density as that is too high. 85 kg/m3 should be the ideal density or thereabouts. There are exceptions but, on the whole, a mattress with an 80kg/m3 density is higher quality to one with 65 kg/m3 density. I am using independent source to back up my claim. Also some reviews of such mattresses that I've mentioned before also back up this claim.

smartpicture

If you buy a bed or mattress online, then when you try it it makes you too hot or gives you backache or is generally uncomfortable, are you stuck with it or do you have any rights to return it?