Best double mattress

Tim_Deegan

Van1971 wrote: »

I hear you about the rod, but what about the gap?

I like your theory that it might put him off though :rotfl:

I wouldn't have thought that there would be much of a gap. Normally this type of bed are designed so that the mattresses fit quite snugly together.

pinksprout

Hi everyone, I have been wading through the previous threads on mattresses for a few days and now have a (long) shortlist of possible kingsize pocket sprung/memory or latex foam mattresses.

Before I try to list these can I just ask whether anyone has an opinion on how the pocket sprung/latex mattresses differ from the pocket sprung/memory foam mattresses? Latex topped products generally seem slightly more expensive so does that mean they are 'better' or is it just that latex doesn't cause you to overheat to the same extent? Is there an optimum density (kg/m3) for latex or does that only apply to memory foam?

So, in no particular order, here is my list. If anyone has any experience of any of these suppliers/manufacturers/mattresses I would be grateful for your insight.

1.) Dunlopillo Chardonnay 1200 pocket sprung latex £499 http://www.mattressnextday.co.uk/mattress/58/Dunlopillo-Chardonny/ this is the most expensive is it worth the extra?

2.) Snugmattress Pocket Spring Outlast memory £423 http://www.snugmattress.co.uk/products/pocket-spring-outlast-2500-memory-foam-mattress-355.aspx

3.) Visco Latex memory foam sprung mattress £369 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Visco-Latex-Memory-Foam-Sprung-King-Size-Mattress_W0QQitemZ330365075808QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBeds_Mattresses?hash=item4ceb4b0160
This is possibly the same mattress as this one:
Visco Therapy Bliss latex memory sprung £358 + £30 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LUX-KING-SIZE-LATEX-MEMORY-FOAM-POCKET-SPRUNG-MATTRESS_W0QQitemZ230387817068QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBeds_Mattresses?hash=item35a42f1a6c (spec for this is 55kg/m3 memory foam and 960 individually wrapped pocket springs)

4.) Highgrove Eternity reversible latex 1500 pocket spring £409 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380144466536&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT this seems quite good value and is possibly top of my list?

5.) Healthbeds Pocket memory 1000 £379 http://www.mattressman.co.uk/healthbeds/mattresses/mattresses/king_size/P6592S0L/pocket_memory_1000.aspx

6.) Calypso turnable 1500 pocket sprung memory foam £439.99 + £29.99 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260495943243&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Thank you for taking time to read and hopefully reply :T

Dave101t

excellent post, ill digest that later, also i am wondering (sorry to hijack but it is related) if you get a new matress, is putting in on an old, crappy bed negating the advantage of a new matress. we have a cheap idea bed, basic wood panel strips under the matress and it just doesnt feel sturdy at all, and squeaks.

Tim_Deegan

pinksprout wrote: »

Before I try to list these can I just ask whether anyone has an opinion on how the pocket sprung/latex mattresses differ from the pocket sprung/memory foam mattresses? Latex topped products generally seem slightly more expensive so does that mean they are 'better' or is it just that latex doesn't cause you to overheat to the same extent? Is there an optimum density (kg/m3) for latex or does that only apply to memory foam?

Memory foam is open celled, which means that unlike reflex foam which is made up from lots of bubbles, memory foam is actually lots of very small holes. So when you apply pressure the air seeps out of the holes allowing the memory foam to mould to your body without causing pressure points. The memory foam also reacts to your body heat, so the MF closest to you body softens the most, then that a little further away will stay firmer, giving you support. Memory foam shouldn't be too hot as long as it is between 2" and 2.5" deep, and is on top of full size springs. There are also climate control fabrics available like Climasmart and Outlast.

Latex foam is a natural product taken from the sap from certain trees. This is then vulcanised using the talalay process to turn it into foam. The resulting foam is actually closed cell, but due to latex being so stretchy, those bubbles will stretch a long way. So the actual result as far as support goes is very similar to memory foam. However talalay latex foam is slightly cooler than memory foam, but it is far more expensive. One thing to beware of when buying a mattress that contains latex is that some manufacturers only put a very small amount of latex foam in them, and often bulk it out with reflex foam. So try to go for one with 2" deep full layers (on both sides if possible).

pinksprout wrote: »

1.) Dunlopillo Chardonny £499 http://www.mattressnextday.co.uk/mattress/58/Dunlopillo-Chardonny/ this is the most expensive is it worth the extra?

It has been mentioned by quite a few people on MSE, in quite a few different threads, that Dunlopillo aren't the same quality that they used to be. This appears to be following their take over by the Hilding Anders grooup). This mattress is also non turn so it won't last as long. The rest of the spec seems good, as long as they are full size steel pocket springs, and not the reflex foam encapsulated type.

pinksprout wrote: »

2.) Snugmattress Pocket Spring Outlast memory £423 http://www.snugmattress.co.uk/products/pocket-spring-outlast-2500-memory-foam-mattress-355.aspx

I don't want to sound too negative, but I have never heard any good reports about Snug. Apart from that the memory foam is too deep at 3", the density is too high at 75kg, and they don't even mention the number of pocket springs at all. It is also non turn.

pinksprout wrote: »

3.) Visco Latex memory foam sprung mattress £369 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Visco-Latex-Memory-Foam-Sprung-King-Size-Mattress_W0QQitemZ330365075808QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBeds_Mattresses?hash=item4ceb4b0160
This is possibly the same mattress as this one:
Visco Therapy Bliss latex memory sprung £358 + £30 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LUX-KING-SIZE-LATEX-MEMORY-FOAM-POCKET-SPRUNG-MATTRESS_W0QQitemZ230387817068QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBeds_Mattresses?hash=item35a42f1a6c (spec for this is 55kg/m3 memory phone and 960 individually wrapped pocket springs)

Yes these are both the same model, but stay well away as they contain the reflex foam encapsulated type pocket springs, which are much smaller than the full size steel ones, they don't give very good support, they are surrounded by reflex foam so there is very little air flow, and they aren't allways even made from steel.
Also 2cm of latex foam isn't worth having, and is just a gimmick.

pinksprout wrote: »

4.) Highgrove Eternity reversible latex pocket spring £409 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380144466536&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT this seems quite good value and is possibly top of my list?

This seems to be quite a good spec, except for just one problem, it is non turn, so won't last as long as a two sided mattress.

pinksprout wrote: »

5.) Zsleeps Supreme sprung memory foam £459.97 http://www.memoryfoammattresszleeps.co.uk/pocket-sprung-memory-foam-mattress.html#moreinfo

Very similar to the ones in number 3. Reflex foam encapsulated pocket springs, and a very thin layer of latex (gimmick). Also non turn.

pinksprout wrote: »

6.) Healthbeds Pocket memory 1000 £379 http://www.mattressman.co.uk/healthbeds/mattresses/mattresses/king_size/P6592S0L/pocket_memory_1000.aspx

Again, a good spec mattress apart from being non turn.

pinksprout wrote: »

7.) Calypso turnable 1500 pocket sprung memory foam £439.99 + £29.99 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260495943243&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

All I can legally say about this one, is from personal experience, you may not actually get what you pay for and what is in the description.

The actually published spec is excellent, but I wouldn't coun't on the mattress you receive actually being what you think it is.

pinksprout

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

Memory foam is open celled, which means that unlike reflex foam which is made up from lots of bubbles, memory foam is actually lots of very small holes. So when you apply pressure the air seeps out of the holes allowing the memory foam to mould to your body without causing pressure points. The memory foam also reacts to your body heat, so the MF closest to you body softens the most, then that a little further away will stay firmer, giving you support. Memory foam shouldn't be too hot as long as it is between 2" and 2.5" deep, and is on top of full size springs. There are also climate control fabrics available like Climasmart and Outlast.

Latex foam is a natural product taken from the sap from certain trees. This is then vulcanised using the talalay process to turn it into foam. The resulting foam is actually closed cell, but due to latex being so stretchy, those bubbles will stretch a long way. So the actual result as far as support goes is very similar to memory foam. However talalay latex foam is slightly cooler than memory foam, but it is far more expensive. One thing to beware of when buying a mattress that contains latex is that some manufacturers only put a very small amount of latex foam in them, and often bulk it out with reflex foam. So try to go for one with 2" deep full layers (on both sides if possible).

Thank you for all this information Tim. I understand that a pocket sprung two-sided mattress (like the La Romantica Vienna and Monaco that you sell) would constitute better value long term but unfortunately they are out of my price range as you can see. Feel free to PM me if I am wrong. I think that I have decided to try and get the best one sided Latex/Pocket Sprung (rather than memory foam) mattress that I can.


It has been mentioned by quite a few people on MSE, in quite a few different threads, that Dunlopillo aren't the same quality that they used to be. This appears to be following their take over by the Hilding Anders grooup). This mattress is also non turn so it won't last as long. The rest of the spec seems good, as long as they are full size steel pocket springs, and not the reflex foam encapsulated type.

Okay so this remains on my short list for the moment.



I don't want to sound too negative, but I have never heard any good reports about Snug. Apart from that the memory foam is too deep at 3", the density is too high at 75kg, and they don't even mention the number of pocket springs at all. It is also non turn.

Okay I hear you and I shall discount this mainly because it is non-latex.



Yes these are both the same model, but stay well away as they contain the reflex foam encapsulated type pocket springs, which are much smaller than the full size steel ones, they don't give very good support, they are surrounded by reflex foam so there is very little air flow, and they aren't allways even made from steel.
Also 2cm of latex foam isn't worth having, and is just a gimmick.

Okay discounted. Thanks.



This seems to be quite a good spec, except for just one problem, it is non turn, so won't last as long as a two sided mattress.

The Highgrove Eternity remains on my list. It is quoted as reversible in as much as both sides can be used if the pocket sprung side is preferred. This will give us an option to turn it and extend its life a little if both sides are comfortable.



Very similar to the ones in number 3. Reflex foam encapsulated pocket springs, and a very thin layer of latex (gimmick). Also non turn.

Okay discounted.



Again, a good spec mattress apart from being non turn.

The Healthbeds mattress is memory foam no latex so I might dismiss it although the price is tempting ....



All I can legally say about this one, is from personal experience, you may not actually get what you pay for and what is in the description.

The actually published spec is excellent, but I wouldn't coun't on the mattress you receive actually being what you think it is.

Hmmm I am bemused by your comments and I shall be wary. Obviously I won't ask you to expand further on what you have said, but thanks anyway.


Aargh! I really want to order so I need to overcome this rather frustrating attack of indecision!

Thank you for your wisdom and time Tim. :T

hethmar

Get yourself a decent Millbrook pocket sprung mattress - beautiful, had one for 12 years, still as good as new. Just bought another for spare room from Bedworld.

Have a look at this one and dont forget to go through quidco to bedworld for 10% cash back

http://www.bedworld.net/Millbrook-Beds/Mattresses/filter.html

pineapple

I went to a local bed and furniture place. I tried them all religiously and the one I got - supposedly the same model - is NOT as comfy as the one one display. I've even been back to check. Just wondering if this is a known ploy?
I've got a bad back and chose memory foam. The sales assistant warned me I might find it hot. But I tend to feel the cold in bed so I went ahead anyway. How wrong I was. I toss and turn in a pool of sweat and the back is worse than ever. I've tried all sorts of mattress covers to no avail. Hot water bottles/electric blankets are a thing of the past though! And I had to invest in an ultra light quilt. Not good.

Tim_Deegan

hethmar wrote: »

Get yourself a decent Millbrook pocket sprung mattress - beautiful, had one for 12 years, still as good as new. Just bought another for spare room from Bedworld.

Have a look at this one and dont forget to go through quidco to bedworld for 10% cash back

http://www.bedworld.net/Millbrook-Beds/Mattresses/filter.html

Personally I'd recommend to stay well away from big brand names, as most of them have reduced quality over recent years in order to cut production costs.

Tim_Deegan

pineapple wrote: »

I went to a local bed and furniture place. I tried them all religiously and the one I got - supposedly the same model - is NOT as comfy as the one one display. I've even been back to check. Just wondering if this is a known ploy?
I've got a bad back and chose memory foam. The sales assistant warned me I might find it hot. But I tend to feel the cold in bed so I went ahead anyway. How wrong I was. I toss and turn in a pool of sweat and the back is worse than ever. I've tried all sorts of mattress covers to no avail. Hot water bottles/electric blankets are a thing of the past though! And I had to invest in an ultra light quilt. Not good.

What was the make and model?

AbbieCadabra

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

Personally I'd recommend to stay well away from big brand names, as most of them have reduced quality over recent years in order to cut production costs.

i thought you recommended independants, like Millbrook?

we're very happy with our Millbrook mattress that we've had for a couple of weeks now, excellent quality & support.

there's so much info on here for beds/mattresses, in the end i just found it easier to shortlist a few brands & search on them for any feedback already posted.

good luck!