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Bulk LPG - Cheapest suppliers / supply route?

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  • J_B
    J_B Posts: 6,810 Forumite
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    jkgray wrote: »
    but he would recommend having an individial tank put in just for my property and if I wanted that he would do it prior to completion.
    I therefore went with this latter option.

    ... but, has he 'bought' the tank himself, or just had it installed with a contract from supplier X??
  • jkgray
    jkgray Posts: 196 Forumite
    J_B wrote: »
    ... but, has he 'bought' the tank himself, or just had it installed with a contract from supplier X??

    I await the documentation from solicitor but as I understand him, he is installing it himself.

    I emailed several suppliers yesterday. The frst to come back was on the basis that I had my own tank & quoted 42p/l. The 2nd to come back completely ignored what I had said and sent me a standard email saying installation would be £395 for below ground tank or £595 for above ground tank, £60 p.a above ground or £95 p.a below ground for tank rental and 43p/l.

    I was therefore surprised at how relatively inexpensive it is to have the tank installed and also that of the two quotes I have had to date there is little difference in the p/l quoted.
  • AdrianC
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    jkgray wrote: »
    The 2nd to come back completely ignored what I had said and sent me a standard email saying installation would be £395 for below ground tank or £595 for above ground tank

    I was therefore surprised at how relatively inexpensive it is to have the tank installed

    We're in the middle of having a new tank installed at the mo, and Calor are doing it for free (we provide the concrete pad - £50 for a minidigger and £150 for readymix delivered, together with a bit of elbow grease) as well as their £150 "free gas" offer for a new contract (48p/12mo fix). So "inexpensive" that ain't particularly.
  • Hi there
    This may be a stupid question - but I'm having difficulty understanding how many litres my tank takes:(. It has a gauge that reads 0-90 in black with 10 and 80 being red ( I'm assuming warning levels for full/empty). I got a quote from supplier 51.75ppl + 5% vat. (I Asked for a tank fill price and advised that gauge was at 10 ( just touching 10) and was quoted £543.37 for 1000l. Just got paperwork and its showing 1560l. So obviously this is going to come in at a lot more than quoted.
    I fill tank every Aug and over the years a fill has ranged from just over £350 in 2009 to well over £1000 last aug! I struggle to figure out how they get 1560l going from 10 to 80 on the gauge!
    Any insight would be much appreciated. I know the prices are high in comparison but I think it's because I'm very rural and there aren't many supply options. Cheers:)
    :rotfl:If it weren't for stress I'd have no energy at all. First rule of acting: Whatever happens, look as if it were intended.;)
    Don't follow in my footsteps, I walk into walls:smileyhea When in doubt .............mumble.
    I may look busy, but I'm just confused.:T I smile because i have no idea what's going on.:rotfl:
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    Hi there
    This may be a stupid question - but I'm having difficulty understanding how many litres my tank takes:(. It has a gauge that reads 0-90 in black with 10 and 80 being red ( I'm assuming warning levels for full/empty). I got a quote from supplier 51.75ppl + 5% vat. (I Asked for a tank fill price and advised that gauge was at 10 ( just touching 10) and was quoted £543.37 for 1000l. Just got paperwork and its showing 1560l. So obviously this is going to come in at a lot more than quoted.
    I fill tank every Aug and over the years a fill has ranged from just over £350 in 2009 to well over £1000 last aug! I struggle to figure out how they get 1560l going from 10 to 80 on the gauge!

    They're %ages, rather than absolute values. The tank will have a label on top of it - have a look, and it'll say the capacity (might need a good wipe over with a damp cloth!). Just as LPG tanks on cars, they can't be filled above 80-90% full. If they're squeezing 1560l in, and it still had 10% in, then that's probably going to be about a 2000l tank.
  • Thanks AdrianC. That's probably about right then. So the 0- 90 is %? That's what was confusing me! Wonder why they don't just put 2000 on it:rotfl: it would make life a lot easier.
    :rotfl:If it weren't for stress I'd have no energy at all. First rule of acting: Whatever happens, look as if it were intended.;)
    Don't follow in my footsteps, I walk into walls:smileyhea When in doubt .............mumble.
    I may look busy, but I'm just confused.:T I smile because i have no idea what's going on.:rotfl:
  • J_B
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    I know the prices are high in comparison but I think it's because I'm very rural and there aren't many supply options.

    Nonsense (sorry :o)

    There are *many* supply options, read this thread and find the uklpg site for guidance

    :)
  • J_B wrote: »
    Nonsense (sorry :o)

    There are *many* supply options, read this thread and find the uklpg site for guidance

    :)

    With respect.... I have already read this thread.....and have posted in it in the past:beer:
    I have looked into changing suppliers, but as I live on an island, I am well aware that there IS only one supplier prepared to supply here. Hence the price is higher ( captive audience).:eek:
    Nobody wants the hassle of delivering here :rotfl:
    :rotfl:If it weren't for stress I'd have no energy at all. First rule of acting: Whatever happens, look as if it were intended.;)
    Don't follow in my footsteps, I walk into walls:smileyhea When in doubt .............mumble.
    I may look busy, but I'm just confused.:T I smile because i have no idea what's going on.:rotfl:
  • jkgray
    jkgray Posts: 196 Forumite
    once the trenches and hole is dug, how long does it normally take (once they are on site) for a domestic LPG underground tank installation?

    would it be done in a day?

    thanks
  • J_B wrote: »
    Nonsense (sorry :o)

    There are *many* supply options, read this thread and find the uklpg site for guidance

    :)

    I don't think this rather abrupt post can go unchallenged.

    If you follow the directions given above I think you will find that UKLPG will list from 3* to 10+ suppliers.

    Previously UKLPG appeared to list a minimum of 4 ...which is why several of us took the trouble to write to the Office for Fair Trading about the take-over of BP's LPG operation by Flogas ..requesting it was referred to the Competition Commission (which had of course done a major earlier market report in 2004-06 which resulted in it being easier to change suppliers).

    There's a large amount of material in the National Archives, including some very interesting responses from the major suppliers (and the independents too!) - unfortunately many figures and suppliers' names have been redacted.

    http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http:/www.competition-commission.org.uk/inquiries/current/gas/

    UKLPG claims** to supply through its members over 95% of the LPG used in the UK.


    * But I obviously didn't put in ohmochraich's unique post code to get his/her unique supplier!
    **info from http://www.wlpgasforum-aegpl2013.com/ (the 26th World Gas Forum and the 2013 AEGPL Congress will be in London in October)
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