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    • tea lover
    • By tea lover 7th Feb 14, 11:08 AM
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    The Trials & Tribulations of Trying to Conceive when its just not happening (12m+)
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    • 7th Feb 14, 11:08 AM
    The Trials & Tribulations of Trying to Conceive when its just not happening (12m+) 7th Feb 14 at 11:08 AM
    Welcome to the long term TTC thread! This is for people who have been TTC for a while, or know they are going to not have a straightforward experience of TTC. There is a huge range of reasons why people post here, and most of them have put a summary below so you can get your bearings.

    Everyone is welcome, and please don't be intimidated by the banter. The ladies here understand the long term heartache of this process, and also can give lots of advice and experience. It's also a great place to rant when one more facebook friend starts to complain about how wonderfully fertile she is!

    The normal TTC thread is here: and the ladies there are lovely too.

    The first post there also gives some of the acronyms, but please don't hesitate to ask anyone here if there are some you don't understand.

    Team TTC info
    • Angeltreats TTC#1 since 08/12, NTNP for at least a year before that. 33 OH 33. Investigation so far: Scan & 21 day bloods for me, all ok. OH has low sperm count & low motility. Next step: First FS appointment 28 November & DH urology appointment 29 November
    • Babywanted TTC for 10 years, all tests clear on both me and hubby, unexplained infertility, miscarried twins April 2012
    • bigmomma051204 TTC#2 since 01/12. PCOS. One ovary due to childhood issue. Overweight, but regular 28 day cycle.
    • Chickpea. 40 TTC#2 since 09/09. Mmc Aug 2013 and m/c Dec 2013. Treatment: run out of options, hoping for a miracle.
    • codemonkey TTC#1 since Oct 2010. 34, DH 32. Investigations so far: Transvaginal ultrasound and HSG all normal, SA showed azoospermia with no vas deferens. MESA/TESA impossible. TESE ruled out due to high risk. Next step: lick our wounds and consider sperm donation/adoption routes.
    • cwtw Ttc #1 since Jan 12, me 31 OH 32. Me: PCO normal weight and symptomless except bleeding too often; some anovulatory cycles. OH normal everything. Next Step: On inositol, first fs appt Sept 13 eek.
    • Danielley TTC#1 since July 2012. Me - almost 35, OH - 34, currently under a consultant at Liverpool Womens, had initial tests (D3 & D21 bloods, external ultrasound, HSG, SA) All fine other apart from borderline abnormal creatinine level in blood so repeating test. Been prescibed 3months Clomid - 1st Cycle Oct 13. Next step: Appt with FS 18/12/13
    • Elsie37 TTC#1 since 02/12. 31. Next step: FS appointment 29 July
    • emmaj30 37. DH 43. Just gone on IVF list. Laproscopy fine and no blockage in tubes. No endo and diagnosed with Unexplained fertility. Hope to start treatment in next 2-4 months (updated Feb14)
    • Fairy Dust TTC#1 since 2006 (well NTNP for the first year). DH 38 Me 38. Unexplained infertility. All tests normal (strange how you hope that they find something wrong that they can "fix"). Failed IVF 1st cycle August 2013. Next Step Booked in for 2nd cycle Feb 2014.
    • Floaty (34) DH 38. TTC#1 since 01/2009. Unexplained IF. Had all FS tests (day 3 bloods, ov+7d bloods, internal ultrasounds, HSG, several SAs and a Lap&Dye - all look normal). Next step: FS appointment 11th March, hopefully for IVF referral.

      FrozenPenguin TTC#1 since Dec 2011. Me 31, DH 35, Me: mild PCOS,irregular cycles and irregular ovulation. Had Day 3/Day 21 tests, Ultrasound,HSG, 7 rounds of Clomid. DH: low SA in all 3 areas (count, morphology and motility)and a varicocele. Next step: Provera, Suprecur and Gonal-F to start January, ICSI planned for mid February
    • goodvibes TTC#1 since 04/12. 36 OH 38. Investigation so far. Me no problems OH low sperm count. Next step: ICSI treatment to start end of feb 14
    • isla_red TTC#1 since 05/11, 32 OH 33. I have a history of painful ovarian cysts but all scans internal and external clear and 21 day bloods okay for me. Discovered OH has a low sperm count in 2012 so removed from IUI list and transferred to ICSI list. Next step Currently awaiting reaching top of NHS ICSI waiting list, first appointment predicted circa Jan 2014
    • lisawood78 TTC # 1 since 2003, I'm 35 hubby 38. Hubby no issues. No fallopian tubes due to ectopic pregnancies caused by severe adhesions. 9 Failed IVF/ICSI/FET cycles. Next Step: Surrogacy consultation on October 4th
    • Littleme82: Me 32; DP 45. TTC since 09.2012. Blood tests show low progesterone; DP SA not great; prescribed clomid currently on 8th cycle; scans last year all ok; HSG looks fine; seeing FS to discuss next steps on 04.03.14.
      loveactually me 33, DH 43, officials started TTC from May 2013 but NTNP from last 2 years. no problems from DH. For me moderate endo which was operated in Nov/13. But very low ovarian reserve according to AMH test and FSH hormone so referred to IVF first appointment on 4 February
    • lucyloo77 TTC#1 since 07/2011. 35, OH is 41. OH has low SA/motility, me no known issues. Unsuccessful IVF/ICSI in May 2013 and August 2013.
    • MrsDavo TTC#1 (together) since 01/2011. 25, OH : 35. I have 6yr old girl, he has 4yr old girl both from different relationships. MMC April 2012. Diagnosed PCOS Dec 2012 - i ovulate on my own maybe twice a year! Male slightly low. Tried 3 cycles of Clomid in 2013. Next step: Metformin for 3 months daily, back to FS on 5/2/14.
    • onestep TTC#2 (dd 9) we've stopped actively ttc now, & are investigating adoption. Next Step Waiting to be assigned a SW
    • Part Mouse TTC#1 since 2009. 29 DH 36. PCOS, blocked right tube, no ov. Male problems as well. No response to tamoxafin. Next Step: Currently injecting Menpur to stimulate ovulation.
    • Peonie TTC #1 since 08/10. 35, DH 38. Severe endo. 1 MC 06/12. Next step: IVF short protocol in January..
    • Purcy81 TTC#1 since 09/12 aged 32 DH aged 32. 2MC (Oct 12 & Jun 13) Irregular and long cycles with late OV and short LP (managed to get it to 10 days now with AC and Vit B6). Other than this no known problems on either side. Next steps Just keep trying, both MC have been confirmed by the doctor but no medical help or even testing will be forthcoming as we can get pregnant and they only test after 3MC as having 2 is "probably just bad luck"
    • Picklekin TTC #1 since July 2012. Unexplained fertility. Tried 6 months of clomid without success. Now waiting for a referral to a new gynaecologist for a second opinion.
    • Primmer TTC#1 since 2009. 39, DH 48. Unexplained infertility. Unsuccessful IVF treatment. Considering adoption but still hoping for a miracle.
    • sadshoequeenAge 39 originally TTC #1 2009, mc may 2011, breastcancer diagnosis aug 2011, TTC again since July 2013 think ovulating but maybe randomly as one ovary, fsh levels fine. Next step: unsure
    • Sewit TTC #1 Oct 2011. Me - 35, DH 38. Unexplained Infertility. AMH 4. 1st IVF 8 eggs, 4 fertilised, 2x2dt -BFN Stepping away from TTC until Jan 2014.
    • skint_catt TTC#2. (DD aged 2). Weve been trying for 12 months & hubby is 42 & I am 36. next step: pelvic scan 24/10/13 & waiting for AF for GP to do more bloods on CD3.
    • Skaps So far have had my blood tests, OH has had his tests which have come back fine. Had an ultrasound and they think they found a polyps so am going to have a hysteroscopy to check and remove it if its there.
    • Smookle TTC for approx 18 months. Aged 27. DH 29. Had laproscopy and diagnosed with moderate Endo and adhesions. All allegedly fixed and fine but still not pregnant. Regular, short cycles, ovulating 2 out of 3 times. Failed IUI Dec/14 Next step - IVF/ICSI referral for Jan 14
    • Star02 Married in 2008 and been trying to conceive since 2009, in 2011 had tests and confirmed would need ICSI, however I was too young to qualify for NHS funding. Next Step Just received letter to have a referral as although still to young based on prior criteria they have removed the lower age limit due to the change in the age discrimination laws.
    • teaandcupcakeordeath TTC #1 since 04/2011. Me (30). BMI 31. Unicornuate Uterus, PCOS, Mild Endo. Irregular cycles. Elevated Prolactin. DH (30) Poor SA results (count, motility and morphology). Next Step: Slowly going mad. Awaiting Brain MRI results to check for benign tumour. Next Step: 2 cycles of NHS IVF with ICSI approved when results are in and BMI at target.
    • Tea Lover TTC#1 since 2009. Me - 35, endo, pcos. OH - 41, v poor SA results (count, motility, morphology). Clomid - didn't do much. One ICSI cycle - BFP then early m/c. Next step: ICSI #2 - Feb14.
    • theonlywayisup TTC#1 since feb 12. Me (29) pcos, long irregular cycles. OH (30) awaiting results of SA. Also awaiting fs appointment and results of possible partial molar pregnancy.
    • tia86 TTC1 since 12/12 (27 years old, OH 28). First appointment with FS booked for March. Scan for PCOS booked for Feb.
      time2deal TTC#1 since 10/11. 37. DH 376. Low AMH, Low SA - but ovulating fine. Overweight (29 BMI). Cervical cancer 12/12 (remission 03/13). IVF 01/13 9 frozen embryos. IVF Nov 2013 cycle cancelled due to cervical scarring. 3 embryos frozen. Next Step Unsure. Considering NHS IVF
    • Vesper 29 been with hubby since 2003. NTNP since end of 2003. Early MC 2006. It made us realise the time was right and started trying properly by following Ov in around 2010, and using a cbfm in Oct 2011. Hubby had mumps as a toddler. SA in 08 showed a low sperm count, but not sure on details. Next Steps. trying to get a SA for hubby again, and been refered for day 21 bloods at local hospital. Waiting for appointment.
    • Whattodonow TTC#1 for for over 2 years. 32, Had all scans - OK, OH has supersperm, I have around 11 AMH, so not great. Three rounds of clomid - totally eff-ed up my cycle and effected my eyesight, so didn't complete 4th round. Next step Awaiting consultant appointment to begin IVF treatment
    • Wonder Woman TTC#1 for approx. 1 year. Me: 27, no known problems, DH: 34, problem with vas deferens. On 1st NHS IVF cycle (long protocol)Next step Down reg scan booked for 12 Nov 13. Hoping for EC in w/c 25 Nov 13.
    Last edited by tea lover; 04-03-2014 at 8:09 AM.
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    • Lily_Rose
    • By Lily_Rose 26th Jan 18, 9:00 PM
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    Hi Bertie_Yellow, when we went for consultation we were hoping for IUI as it was less invasive and much cheaper, but were advised IUI success rates were quite low in comparison to IVF and not much different to BD. Fingers crossed there are no ossues for you.

    Thanks skaps, thats what my acupuncturist said too. I have an appointment in 3 weeks time. I suspect I will be asked to go back on the pill again once they remove so probably won't start treatment until March *sigh*

    Hope everyone is ok x
    • angel11
    • By angel11 7th Feb 18, 6:27 PM
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    Hi all, hope you don't mind me joining. I was on here a while ago, but it then went very quiet. I'm 35, dh 36, ttc for 2.5 years, dh has antisperm antibodies.

    We had our 1st failed icsi cycle back in Nov. From 5 good looking follies they only got 1 immature egg, which didn't fertilise. Had amh rechecked at our review appt in Dec, have to wait until March for results & then decide what our next steps are.

    it's a tough old journey, but talking to others that have gone through it def helps.
    • Bertie_Yellow
    • By Bertie_Yellow 9th Feb 18, 4:22 PM
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    Hi all, just had my AMH results as 15...this is good right??
    • Lily_Rose
    • By Lily_Rose 9th Feb 18, 9:31 PM
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    Hi angel, I'm sorry your first icsi failed, are you self funding or going via NHS? I hope the results come back all ok in March.

    Bertie I think amh 15 is good, mine is low at 8.1. I'm 30 and was told this is similar to someone that is about 38.

    I had a consultation re: Hysteroscopy yesterday. Was told after waiting patiently for 45 mins and without and apology that it would be over 3 months before I'd get an appointment. I bursted into tears as the consultant pretty much smirked at me and said "you could have got an earlier appt at your local hospital" The cheek of that cowbag, I choose the earliest appt and sorry I don't have the powers to tell the future!

    We have decided to cough up and go private, should have the op next week and then fingers x we can start treatment.

    Hope everyone is ok xxx
    • angel11
    • By angel11 10th Feb 18, 12:54 PM
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    Lily we had 1 funded cycle on nhs, so we'll be self-funding from here on in. Not great, but then I know others don't get any funded cycles, and I'm hoping it means we have a bit more control over the whole process.

    Bertie I think 15 is probably good, but it really does depend on your age. When mine was checked a year ago it was 10.4, which I was told was within the normal range for my age (35), but at the lower edge of that range. When you were given your result did doctor/nurse make any comment on it?
    Just editting to say that egg quality is way more important that quantity, they measure amh when going for treatment so they have an idea of dosage of meds etc to give you
    Last edited by angel11; 10-02-2018 at 12:57 PM.
    • Lily_Rose
    • By Lily_Rose 11th Feb 18, 10:37 AM
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    It will be 3 years TTC in March for us and will be our first self funded try, I wish we did this earlier - isn't hindsight such a great thing? I'd still go to the docs to be added to the list if we aren't successful.

    If you don't mind me asking, how was the nhs journey for you angel?

    I agree that it is quality over quantity and it only takes 1 egg!
    • angel11
    • By angel11 12th Feb 18, 8:11 AM
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    Lily it was kind of a mixed bag tbh. We had initial tests (day 21 bloods & semen analysis) done by gp & at our 1st appt with fc were told we would prob need icsi due to mfi. They did a few tests on me, but not too many. We were on the waiting list for 9 months, but that's pretty standard in our area for nhs. All pre-treatment appts were pretty good, things were explained really well & we were reminded of availability of counselling, support groups etc.
    During stimms I had 2 tracking scans before ec, each 1 of these I saw a different consultant, & it did feel a bit more like a conveyor belt - no idea of this was because it was nhs, or if it's just how that clinic works. Then at ec I only had 1 egg (from 5 "good looking" follies), which it turned out wasn't even mature.
    Then at our review appt our initial consultant (who we didn't actually see at all during treatment) told us that there were "missed clues" that I wasn't responding as well it seemed
    So I am left feeling a bit frustrated from the whole process. I'm not entirely sure I want to go with that particular clinic again, but the only other clinic in our area has most of the same consultants working there too. And the next nearest clinic would be a 4-5 hour round journey
    • slothsocks
    • By slothsocks 12th Feb 18, 8:27 AM
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    Hi everyone. I have started down regging for our first IVF cycle. I feel all a mess. Not sure whether it's the drugs or the pressure. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much as our consultant told us the first cycle is pretty much figuring out how you're going to respond. Not that it definitely won't work, but that you just don't know how things will go till you try. It's hard not to hope though, isn't it?

    Sorry your NHS cycle didn't work out Angel, fingers crossed the clinic will have a much better idea how to treat you a second time.

    We are self funding and have had to borrow the money. We went for a 2 cycle package but I really really hope we won't need it.

    Sorry to hear about your appointment and the long waiting times Lily_Rose. I hope things start moving for you a lot quicker now. We were first seen last June, but as we had no obvious issues we tried clomid first for three months then straight to IVF. It's been 5 months since our first consultation but at least we've felt like things were moving during that time.

    Bertie re AMH, it really is age dependant. The main reason they test it before IVF is so that they know how much of the simulatory drugs to start you on, as they've not got much else to go on the first cycle. I don't think it's a predictor of whether the treatment is likely to be successful or not though. I thought that age was probably our biggest issue, I'm 38, nearly 39, but my AMH came out at 22.7, which is "satisfactory", and for my age very good. Not that it's helped me at all!
    • angel11
    • By angel11 19th Feb 18, 10:13 AM
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    Hey how's everyone doing?

    I've been reading though It Starts with the Egg again, & considering taking dhea supplements (i was a poor responder last time round ) Does anyone have any experience with it?

    Sloth it can be such a difficult process, so take care of yourself as much as possible. For what it's worth, it does get easier once you get onto stimms, down regging can be horrible.
    Last edited by angel11; Yesterday at 10:17 AM.
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