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  • Welcome to anyone coming to this brand new board after reading Martin's updated article on the Main Site :D

    To any users who haven't had an answer to their question on the old discussion thread please feel free to place it here and hopefully someone will have an answer for you.

    If you want to ask a question about a specific bank please check the boards to see if you can find a dedicated thread to your bank and pop your question on there.

    Don't forget to put your Success story on this thread when you complete your claim and good luck. :)
  • I currently have a basic online Halifax account and am happy with the service I get. Online banking is great for knowing your balance at any time.

    My question is are there any other basic bank accounts that offer online banking, debit card (Visa Electron is absolutely fine) and a cheque book for those rare times when you still need to pay cheques (school trips, EBAY etc). I am not looking for cheque guarantee card nor overdraft.

    I plan to go sue Halifax for between £1500 and £2000 over the last 6 years and like one of the contributors above I may need 28 days to enable my salary to be transfered by BACS monthly and maintain direct debit and standing order payments
  • Alliance and leicester, apply on lline.
    Mutual Supporters club member (Nov 2006)

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  • On the 31st Oct I went overdrawn by 50p due to a direct debit coming out of my account, that very same day i went into the bank and credited my account with hundred pounds.
    I presumed cos i had put the money in the same day i wouldnt get charged... I was wrong i was charged 55 quid, i went into the Abbey and argued that it was unfair I should be charged as i credited my account immediatly.
    I was told my a female member of staff that under no circumstances could she clear the charge it was in my terms and conditions that the full amount for the DD should be in at the start of the working day and it was in her policies and procedures that no bank staff could wavier charges, she told me the charge would not leave my account for at least a month.
    I checked my account on the 11th Nov and found that the charges had come out which made me overdrawn again... hence another 55 quid charge.
    I went straight into the bank and this time spoke to a male member of staff who held the same position as the first female staff I spoke to, I explained again that I thought these charges were harsh and unfair. To start with he agreed that I had been unfairly treated and he himself thought it was discusting as I was only originally overdrawn by 50p.
    He said it was in his policies and procedures that he only had the power to clear 20 quids worth of the charge, after a further 20mins debate he then changed his mind and decided he now did have the power to clear the full 110 quids worth of charge.
    I would love to go to Abbeys training days and find out just what they train their staff as thay all seem to have different ideas on what their banks policies and procedures are. Anyway at least I did manage to get my refund without the hassle of sending letters etc. Good luck to anyone else with problem.
  • jasun
    jasun Posts: 134 Forumite
    uk52rob wrote:
    Bank: First Direct
    Amount Reclaimed:£338 + £46.05 Interest
    Amount they paid: £338

    I sent out the template letter, and after a week I got a letter back to say they would refund the £338 in charges, but not the interest. I signed the reply and sent it back (as £338 is better than nothing!) and, sure enough, they credited the amount back. :beer:

    Three months later, I get charged £135 in one month. I sent a secure electronic message to them online this time stating that I was not impressed with their £135 charge for the month, and that it was my final notice for them to refund it (+ a pending charge of £30 at the end of the month). :rolleyes:

    I did not hear anything back, until I noticed that they had credited the £135 back into my account. The next day I get a letter which is in no way pleasant.

    They basically said that our banking relationship has become "untenable" and, after consideration of the breakdown of trust between us, they have served notice that my account will be closed as of 16th November (the letter was sent on the 18th October). The letter went on to say the following:

    "On this date any standing orders and direct debits paid from your account will be cancelled, as will your Cheque Guarantee Card. Please ensure that any overdraft is repaid in full by this date. If you are unable to do this, please forward your repayment proposals. For clarity, it is not our intention to offer banking facilities to you in the future and, with that in mind, I would ask that you refrain from making any applications to open accounts with us or HSBC.

    Finally, it is always regrettable when a banking relationship ends in this way, and I wish you well with your future banking arrangements."


    My God, some people love their job there, don't they??! :mad:

    The closing of accounts is something I am interested to hear about or at least the attempts of banks to do this. There are a number of issues with them trying to do this as far as I can see.

    Although they have T&C, which allow them to demand closure at any time, I'd like to see this put before a court as the only reason they are trying to close an account is because people are getting charges back, to which they are fully entitled, so for them to try and close your account simply for that, I think is something they should not be allowed to get away with as they are the ones in cloudy water in the first place, not you.

    If this happened to me, I'd reject their offer based on that fact and put it before the court. I'd find it hard to accept the court would justify and accept the bank can do it, they might as well start a counter-claim. On a second note, they state they their charges in the T&C - We still get those back due to the legal issues around it and it usually is cheaper for them to return the charges than have to let it hit court which from a business point of view is bad because it would probably mean more about it in the press - Barclays and probably others too, make you sign to keep you quiet, another reason why they settle out of court.

    Also, if you pay anything for your account, like I do with Barclays Additions, you're actually paying for the extended overdraft and so on, so if they even just try to remove that without closing the account, it would not look good in court, again the T&C in a lot of cases when compared to the law mean nothing and since you might pay for a service, they have to offer it - stating they are removing it due to a person executing their legal rights will not look good for them in court.

    It would be an interesting test case anyway, as I don't think out of the few cases that have hit court, the closing of accounts or removal of services were discussed.

    Since you've got no outstanding case, I'd send them a letter telling them you are taking this matter to the courts unless they terminate the idea of closing your account due to the previous charges being refunded.
  • iglimpse
    iglimpse Posts: 235 Forumite
    :mad: I am helping my sister to reclaim charges from Abbey (back to 2002). I applied using the template letter but what I got back was useless. Lists and lists of spends but no info on the charges incurred, or the balances. I don't want to let that deter me... Is this their usual ploy?

    We have already opened a new account, so that one is dormant for now:cool:

    Clearly I need to write back and reiterate that it is the charges info I want, unless you can suggest anything else:confused:
  • I'm worried that the Co-op bank will demand repayment of my personal loan and credit card if I ask for a charges refund. I have repaid the overdraft, have no savings with them (or anyone else!) and the loan is just below 12k, far more than any possible refund. I have opened a parachute account, so wouldn't mind if they closed my current account. Has anyone had experience of these problems?
    I am really appalled by the Co-op's attitude as reported by some forum members - I joined them because they were supposed to be an ethical bank, and I'm planning on leaving as soon as I can because they're not - even now, they're still levying huge charges! Why can't they see what's coming and save us all a lot of hassle by lowering their charges NOW?
  • archiedog wrote:

    My question is are there any other basic bank accounts that offer online banking, debit card (Visa Electron is absolutely fine) and a cheque book for those rare times when you still need to pay cheques (school trips, EBAY etc). I am not looking for cheque guarantee card nor overdraft.

    The best I could find is a current account with Norwich and Peterborough Building Society, https://www.npbs.co.uk. Excellent on line banking with a link cash card if you don't credit score for a visa delta debit/cheque card. They only down sides are no electron card and all their branches are in the south east if you need to pay cash in over the counter.

    Has anyone else found a basic on line account with cheque book and electron card?
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  • Tomsmum
    Tomsmum Posts: 22 Forumite
    I ditched Natwest precisely because they were charging me so much in late charges etc. Are they still obliged to do all of this even if I no longer bank with them?

    We've been serially crap with bouncing cheques for well over a decade - be great if there was gold in them there hills!

    :j
  • iglimpse, they are obliged to give you the information but the onus is on you to list out the charges etc I'm afraid.

    Tomsmum, yes you can claim on a closed account :)
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