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My Daughter nearly set the house on Fire ..HELP ???

The other morning my boyfriend came downstairs at 6.30 am and found the oven on fire because she had placed loads of plastic in there and a full bag of sugar along with whatever else {which I dont know because they were burnt to cinders } . Its a good job he is a fireman as I wouldve probably slept through and he recognised the smell .Otherwise neither of us would probably be alive now after the fumes would have killed us after another hour or so.!!!
As you can imagine her behavour is becoming very dangerous and I just dont know what to do with her...
I dont know what has got into her latetly but everytime she has ten minutes downstairs / upstairs on her own she decides to trash the house and doesnt listen to a word I say !!! This morning she decided to throw cereal and milk all around the living room carpet , even thow I have child locks on the cupboards whilst I had a shower .
I do not have a naughty step for her because in her room there is too much for her to do and also wreck , my stairs are open planned so its too easy for her to fall over and really hurt herself . But my patience is really running thin with her !!
So far I have stopped her watching dvds and cbeebies , Ive stopped all sweets / chocolate for a week . And yesterday I took her ice skating because she had been good ...But she still trashed the house again today . I do not want her feeling all I do is shout at her and I do normally praise her for good behavour , but I feel she just does not ever behave anymore
So your suggestions would be of great help to me , as she is perfectly behaved at nursery and at other peoples houses, and I realise it is just me she has no respect for !!
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  • tanith
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    How old is she? can you not put a child gate on her room so that she isn't downstairs when you are in bed? Do you not hear her going downstairs in the early hours? A bit more info would be good... certainly sounds like she needs close monitoring
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  • Lotus-eater
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    keys wrote: »
    and I realise it is just me she has no respect for !!
    You've answered your own question.

    Get a chair and use it as a naughty step. Lock her in her room if you have to. Be firm, be consistant.

    And why didn't the smoke alarm downstairs go off?
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  • Yes I wondered how old she was too? And why did the smoke alarm not go off?
  • floss2
    floss2 Posts: 8,030 Forumite
    Has anything changed in her life recently? New people, change in home life, new school, loss of family member?
  • keys wrote: »
    . Its a good job he is a fireman as I wouldve probably slept through and he recognised the smell .Otherwise neither of us would probably be alive now after the fumes would have killed us after another hour or so.

    I take it you have smoke detectors in the house?
    .....

  • *Louise*
    *Louise* Posts: 9,197 Forumite
    edited 17 February 2010 at 3:03PM
    A naughty step doesnt have to be a 'step' it just needs to be a time out space where she goes if she hasn't behaved. A chair or small mat in a certain area (away from toys) is all you need

    I find it terrifying that she has been playing with the oven :eek:
    You need to get a lock on your kitchen door - one of those simple bolt ones would be fine, but make sure it's high enough that she can't reach (even if she stands on something. And a MASSIVE chat about the dangers of burning herself...I terrify my lot with horror stories about how hot it is if they even go near it (even if it's off) :o
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  • mumslave
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    You dont have a naughty step because there is too much for her to do in her room?! Since when does a naughty step have to be in her room. She must be aged about 3 if you say she is in nursery, so its not her thats the problem, its you, sorry but as you say she is a danger and that is because she is allowed to be. Stairgates, alarms, there are plenty of safety things out there to minimise the risk in the short term, to her damaging herself and others. However her behaviour, you need to learn how to manage it and fast.

    Is she bored at home. Bored children become destructive (i know through experience, the times I have been too lazy to do something with my two, tends to be the times i find something damaged, broken, drawn on etc) so try to provide her with a structured day, with 15 to 20 minutes break between activites for her to play herself and you to do what you need to do.

    Take her out of the house when you can, to the park or if you have a garden, wrap her up well and help her work off some energy. My eldest child has always had me amazed at the sheer amount of energy she has, from the moment her feet touches the floor to getting back into bed at night, there is no stopping her.

    Bright children need more stimulation as well, not just physical. At the age of 3, if thats what she is, you can get fun work books that will exercise her mind and give you and her some one on one time with her.

    Finally, you are her parent, before you are her friend. That comes second. This means that when she is doing naughty things, you need to show her you are the one in control, not her. Sit yourself down, write out all the things she does that you dont like, Cross off the silly things that in the grand scheme of things dont matter. You should be left with a list of dangerous things or things she needs to do for her own benefit such as eating meals/brushing teeth. The important things. Now decide how you are going to deal with each thing when it happens. Find a naughty step/corner/room and be prepared to put her back on it time and time again, she will eventually get the message.

    With my two, aged 4 and 3, they get three warnings to stop the behaviour I dont like. After three, its naughty step. If the behaviour then carries on, its loss of privallege, such as the games console my 4 year old loves so much, or no tv. If it still carries on, then its a smack. It very very very rarely reaches that stage however they know its an option I will use if I feel the need to. Each to their own.

    Everytime you punish her, however way you do it, be consistent. Stick to punishing her by the same method over and over again. If you arent consistent in your behaviour to her, she wont be in her behaviour to you. She needs to learn boundaries with you and what she can expect when it goes wrong.

    I am guilty of this, but DONT let the situation escalate. Sometimes when I have to punish my two, it can seem totally ineffective, so its tempting to heap on any old punishment you can think of till you get a reaction/remorse/tears. Thats totally pointless. Choose your punishment method and stick to it, even if it seems like your daughter doesnt care.

    Finally, she will need incentives for showing good behaviour. You can try reward charts, they do work I think. Set the house rules with her, and let her know when she does something you like, you will let her put a sticker on her chart. If at the end of the week she has a certain amount of stickers, only then will you take her ice skating etc etc. If she is naughty, its tempting to take a sticker off, but dont. You want her to see the reward chart as something totally positive.

    Dont lose heart either...as soon as your daughter finds you are trying to get control, her behaviour will get worse before it gets better. Hang on in there, it does get better as long as you stay consistent, firm and fair.

    (i say all this like I am the perfect mother, but I am often guilty of shouting or losing control by the exaggeration of the punishment to get a reaction, its not easy but keep trying, i do!)
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  • pigpen
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    If you speak to the fire brigade they will send someone round to speak with her abhout the dangers of fire.. this did help with my brood when one of them set the kitchen alight.

    We had noticed the fire and out it out before the smoke alarms went off... they appear to be more sensitive to your toast burning than the curtains!

    It isn't necessarily that she has no respect for you.. they behave at nursery because they are occupied and entertained. they also feel more comfortable at home with you because you love them unconditionally but nursery teachers don't. She just seems to lack awareness of the actual dangers.

    Oh.. if you speak to them at nursery they should have a 'group talk' about the dangers of messing with fire too.. definitely worth the chat!
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  • xmaslolly76
    xmaslolly76 Posts: 3,974 Forumite
    My son is very much the same at times we just dont seem to be able to get through to him. As a loast resort we have completely emptied his room apart from clothes and his bed. He is now earning back his things each day and he does seem to be improving alot especially as his beloved DS lite is on the bottom of the list for things to be returned to him. He is 7 by the way not sure if it will help you :-)
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  • keys_2
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    Sorry I thought I wrote her age ..She is 3 years old ..going to be 4 in March .
    As she had closed the oven door the alarm didnt go off until my bf opened the oven door . And unfortunatelty I am a very deep sleeeper and always have been so I have been setting my alarms {clocks } to go off early in the morning just incase she has got up , which then I cant get back to sleep , which also adds to the problem of when I do fall back to sleep .
    tanith : I have thought about a baby gate , but I already have one at the bottom of the stairs which she climbs over !!
    Lotus-eater Yes I am really willing to be consistent and stick to a punishment I reprimand her with . Like I have stuck to no telly / dvds / treats etc . And also I have made sure when my dad took her for the day he stuck to this aswell . But to be honest she just finds other things to do , and most of the time apart from tidying up she does actually behave ok and is a happy smiley child .
    floss2 No nothing I can think of has changed , and she loves going to nursery and the same people visit our house regulary and take her out etc
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