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Can someone explain the point of rating people's reviews. I just read and rated about 34 reviews and earned 30 dooyoo miles.. It hardly seems worth it, as it took quite a long time. I may as well spend the time writing reviews.
Because eventually people will cotton on that you're not rating back, and will stop reading your reviews, meaning you only earn the 50p for the review. Also because Dooyoo is a community, and the whole essence of a community is to give and take, not just take.Moving onto a better place...Ciao :wave:0 -
Can someone explain the point of rating people's reviews. I just read and rated about 34 reviews and earned 30 dooyoo miles.. It hardly seems worth it, as it took quite a long time. I may as well spend the time writing reviews.
You will get return rates but they don't come in immediately...some people wait to return and of course some do not sadly.
It might be an idea to check to see if people do return rate - if you see someone has thousands of miles in their profile but have only reviewed a fraction of reviews themselves then you probably aren't going to get a return rate from them.
I rate far more reviews than I get return rates for - almost double - but even if I haven't posted a review for a while I tend to get rates coming in almost every day.0 -
cheap_charlie wrote: »You will get return rates but they don't come in immediately...some people wait to return and of course some do not sadly.
It might be an idea to check to see if people do return rate - if you see someone has thousands of miles in their profile but have only reviewed a fraction of reviews themselves then you probably aren't going to get a return rate from them.
I rate far more reviews than I get return rates for - almost double - but even if I haven't posted a review for a while I tend to get rates coming in almost every day.
I think it is hugely unfair to judge a member on whether they return rate your reviews. What if you write in categories that don't interest them? Should I have to read endless reviews on beauty products? For me the mark of a member is how many rates they have given, not whether they have read my particular work. It is all about adding to the rates "pool" rather than returning reads IMO. I also have respect for the member that I see making insightful, interesting comments.
I have several members who nearly always read my reviews but I rarely return theirs because they don't write in categories I can physically sit through a review of. Does not mean I don't appreciate the rate and sometimes I might tell them so. However, I get more satisfaction from these people reading my work simply because they actually want to than those who return read.0 -
barongreenback wrote: »I think it is hugely unfair to judge a member on whether they return rate your reviews. What if you write in categories that don't interest them? Should I have to read endless reviews on beauty products? For me the mark of a member is how many rates they have given, not whether they have read my particular work. It is all about adding to the rates "pool" rather than returning reads IMO. I also have respect for the member that I see making insightful, interesting comments.
I have several members who nearly always read my reviews but I rarely return theirs because they don't write in categories I can physically sit through a review of. Does not mean I don't appreciate the rate and sometimes I might tell them so. However, I get more satisfaction from these people reading my work simply because they actually want to than those who return read.
Fair point.
However its true to say there are a lot of people who take more out of Dooyoo than they give and whether it be right or wrong, there is a feeling amongst many members that if they don't get return rates they won't read your work.
I don't expect a return rate when I read a review - which is just as well given my stats but its fair to say a lot of members do.0 -
Can someone explain the point of rating people's reviews. I just read and rated about 34 reviews and earned 30 dooyoo miles.. It hardly seems worth it, as it took quite a long time. I may as well spend the time writing reviews.
In the long term you will earn more money by rating. I earn more from people reading my reviews than I do from posting it and most of the people who rate my reviews do so because I rated theirs. Other people do so because they can see that I rate a lot of people.
Plus think of the crowns, if you don't get nominated you don't crowns and if you don't read other peoples reviews they won't bother to read yours and won't therefore nominate you.
You can't be in it just for the money, not with dooyoo. Writing reviews takes time, getting people to rate your reviews takes time and being part of the community takes time. I've been a member since October. I've written 91 reviews and I'm only just hitting £100. That's one hundred pounds in six months, less than I get for a days work!
If you want something that will earn you a lot of money for very little effort then dooyoo isn't the right place.
On an earlier issue. Thanks to the people who pointed out how unreasonable I was being. I've been overreacting about things all week in real life and I guess that has filtered through to my online life too. I'm very easily wound up this week!
Does anyone else get really excited at the beginning of the month to see what the category for the competitions is going to be? Or am I just really really pathetic? (I refreshed the competitions page like fifty times at work today before dooyoo updated it.)
Once again it's a category that I don't write in...sport!
Although I did write a sport review yesterday...if only I had waited one more day!0 -
cheap_charlie wrote: »Fair point.
However its true to say there are a lot of people who take more out of Dooyoo than they give and whether it be right or wrong, there is a feeling amongst many members that if they don't get return rates they won't read your work.
I don't expect a return rate when I read a review - which is just as well given my stats but its fair to say a lot of members do.
I don't often say this, because there are plenty of ways to "Dooyoo", but the members who wait for a return read are in the wrong and often lie through their teeth because they tend to "be behind on reads" or some such !!!!. It's inclusive, selfish and reactive and doesn't help anyone. It's a small picture mentality. The big picture is important. If the site does well, we do well. Contribute to the site, not yourself otherwise you're just as bad as a churner IMO.
You go out, find what you're interested in and read it. As long as you're reading more review than people read yours, then you'll do OK (assuming everything else falls into place like review quality etc.)0 -
I know we've had this debate before but it's always fun to debate.
I don't think there's anything wrong with returning rates and I think it's entirely possible to return rates and still read other reviews too.
I return every rate that I get and I'm one of those people who is behind on rates. I doubt that any of my regular raters have noticed because I'm still rating their reviews every day, it's just that I'm rating it in return for a rate that was the review before the last one that they rated. Am I lying through my teeth? No. It does say on my profile that due to my father being terminally ill I'm behind on rates, that's completely true. Plus now that my reviews are getting around 60 reads it takes longer to return every rate.
Surely inclusive is a good thing...it means you include everyone. If you mean that it's exclusive I would disagree. If someone new rates my review I'll rate them back and then they are also included.
Because you return rate doesn't mean that you don't rate anyone else. Every couple of days I go through the new reviews list and rate anything that looks vaguely interesting.
In my opinion returning rates isn't any worse a way of choosing which reviews to rate than any other.
You say to read what I'm interested in...I would probably then read maybe five reviews a week. More if I'm planning a holiday.
By returning rates my eyes have been opened up to all kinds of things that I never would have considered before. I've actually bought things based on reviews that I've read through return rating.
In my opinion as long as you are rating reviews and you're rating them honestly it doesn't matter how or why you choose those reviews.0 -
I don't think there's anything wrong with returning rates and I think it's entirely possible to return rates and still read other reviews too.
You can do both, but I was referring more to those that ONLY return rates. These are the people that are never up to date, because there's always something that keeps them from returning a rate (an SU rating on one of their own reviews, for example).
Surely inclusive is a good thing...it means you include everyone. If you mean that it's exclusive I would disagree. If someone new rates my review I'll rate them back and then they are also included.
Because you return rate doesn't mean that you don't rate anyone else. Every couple of days I go through the new reviews list and rate anything that looks vaguely interesting.
See above. Those that only return rate (as opposed to the more general "rate") are the people that are creating little cliques for themselves – that's where I'm getting inclusive from. Statements on "about me" pages say that they will only return rates to those that rate theirs means they're not the ones going out there and discovering new writers… it's all reactionary based on the carrot and stick method of promising something in return for getting reads. Promises that are often unfulfilled, in my experience.
I really don't understand why it's necessary to state that you only return reads. The return read only method is something that can only really end up with a member in negative equity with regard to reads.
You might be a smashing writer, but if you're only going to write about tampons and cosmetics, you're not going to get a return read from me (and, obviously, it's unlikely you'll have come to my reviews in the first place as you only return read). General YOU, not you Brooke. That's where the reactive bit comes in to it. Hypocritically, if they do venture outside their little circle, they're the first to moan because people don't return rates and I've seen far too many comments on the site about this.
In my opinion returning rates isn't any worse a way of choosing which reviews to rate than any other.
You say to read what I'm interested in...I would probably then read maybe five reviews a week. More if I'm planning a holiday.
By returning rates my eyes have been opened up to all kinds of things that I never would have considered before. I've actually bought things based on reviews that I've read through return rating.
Fair enough. We'll have to disagree on this "window shopping" method of reviewing. Personally I don't believe it leads to accurate rating in the long run, but maybe that's just me. Giving someone a read for the sake of reading is, arguably, against the rules of the site, but I think that's a completely different debate.
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Personally, I will return rates where I can, but have all the writes in my Circle on alerts and am usually horribly slow at reading those, but at the same time when I have a couple of spare minutes I'll read around the new review lists and only read things by reviewers not in my Circle, that said I'm a nightmare for actually getting around to reading the alerts, and I know at the moment my stats are terrible but when I have time I try to plough through the alerts, and I'm more than happy for my earnings to be virtually nil while I dont have the time to be a part of the community the way I prefer to.It’s not worth doing something unless someone, somewhere, would much rather you weren’t doing it.
Sir Terry Pratchett
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Yes, we will have to agree to disagree. I think accurate rating could be a completely different discussion because really what qualifies you to rate something accurately?
When I go on holiday or away somewhere I tend to search for reviews of places that I'm going to visit, if they help me make a decision about if I want to go to that place or not then they're very useful to me but as I haven't actually visited that place yet (and if the review is bad won't bother) how can I know for sure that the review was really useful?
Should I not rate that review? That's a serious question. It's something that I've thought about in the past but always decided it's better to rate than just to read and not rate.
Another issue I find is when I read things that people have written about childhood. My first masters degree was in early years and when I read some of this stuff there's part of me thinking, well so and so's study on whatever disproved that or that hasn't been good practice since the eighties so do I then rate something as not useful because the person isn't an academic or a child professional and doesn't know that what they're writing is out of date or generally considered to be bad for children?
Do you see what I mean? Sometimes I feel like I can't rate something accurately because I don't know enough about it and other times like I know too much about it and I'm expecting too much from the reviewer.0
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