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And pose in the window of Starbucks so that everyone can admire their shiny machine.They're more likely to own a smart phone, a satnav, a camcorder, a digital camera, an mp3 player, a website, a blog, back up their software, use online backup services, download music, use streaming video services, edit movies, upgrade to the latest OS, etc, etc.
Move along, nothing to see.0 -
Why would you do this? I thought a Mac was as much about the sophisticated hardware as it is the software?
From my limited understanding (I don't own a Mac...but I have nothing against them!) Macs are just PCs with a (very) limited hardware choice, fantastic styling and an OS many seem to love.
A few years ago this was not the case, but Apple eventually realised that the PC brigade had much better hardware and dumped their CPU manufacturer in order to make, essentially, (very) pretty PC clones running a unix variant:P
Nowadays you can run Windows natively on a Mac, or OSX on a PC, though Apple don't like people doing that as it dispels some of the mystique which they've build around the brand.Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant.0 -
Current Apple Macs use the same components as PCs in a good quality case. Personally I don't think all of them are fantastically styled.
I always thought one of the reasons they went over to Intel chips is that the PowerPC wasn't going to be powerful enough for their future requirements.
To be fair MartyJ basing how techie someone is on how many devices they own isn't a very sensible idea. To own an Apple Mac you have to have a decent income, as they don't make cheap machines, which surely means you're more likely to also have expensive smartphones, camcorders etc.It's my problem, it's my problem
If I feel the need to hide
And it's my problem if I have no friends
And feel I want to die0 -
Originally Posted by busenbust
The Apple Time Capsule is a hard drive and AirPort Extreme Base Station in one box, functioning as a wireless and Ethernet router as well as a backup device. But, important to note, there is no in-built modem.
HTH
Let me be a bit more transparent in this post. I do understand your caveat about "It would be nothing more than an expensive router for me." For example, you might already have a router/modem working perfectly fine, but the Time Capsule does indeed function as a wireless and Ethernet router as well as a backup device (1T or 2T). And a very nice wireless backup device it is too: seamless integration with your network and very easy to set up. Note also what I said about a lack of a built-in modem - just in case the product does appeal to youEssentially I want an external hard drive that I can store most of my music and memory hungry files on. I was of the belief that the Time Capsule offered me a wireless external hard drive for my Mac but if that's not the case I guess there's no point in keeping it. It would be nothing more than an expensive router for me.. 0 -
BillScarab wrote: »Current Apple Macs use the same components as PCs in a good quality case. Personally I don't think all of them are fantastically styled.
The case is part of the hardware though, and a very important part. Macs use magnets instead of clips that can break for instance, slot loading DVD drives, magnetic power cables, glass multi-touch trackpads and whatnot. Many of the other components are made for Apple in collaboration with Apple.
As far as I'm aware, you can't just buy the parts to build a Mac and install OS X on it. You can certainly buy hardware that very closely resembles a Mac, but you still need to use workarounds of varying degrees of complexity to install OS X on it.To be fair MartyJ basing how techie someone is on how many devices they own isn't a very sensible idea. To own an Apple Mac you have to have a decent income, as they don't make cheap machines, which surely means you're more likely to also have expensive smartphones, camcorders etc.
I agree, but my point was that people who consume the latest devices with such a voracious appetite are hardly troglodyte technophobes.0 -
He's an !!!!!! who managed to turn a struggling company on the brink of closure into one of the most profitable technology companies in the world.
Yes, by being an @rsehole, treating his employees badly and abandoning his kid when his then girlfriend told him she was pregnant. He's allowed her into his life now but back then he didn't want to know.
Yes cheaper, more powerful and better. I've recently built a new power house PC for less that 1k. An Apple wouldn't be able to come close to the power of it for less than 1k.
Have no problem with people owning or wanting to buy Apple. I just feel with Windows 7 being so good now, it's cheaper to buy a PC.0 -
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Originally Posted by BillScarab
Current Apple Macs use the same components as PCs in a good quality case. Personally I don't think all of them are fantastically styled.
The case is part of the hardware though, and a very important part. Macs use magnets instead of clips that can break for instance, slot loading DVD drives, magnetic power cables, glass multi-touch trackpads and whatnot. Many of the other components are made for Apple in collaboration with Apple.
I agree but when I said components I was thinking more of CPU, RAM etc. The bits that actually make a computer. There's no reason other manufactureres can't do similar things with the case, cables etc.
As far as I'm aware, you can't just buy the parts to build a Mac and install OS X on it. You can certainly buy hardware that very closely resembles a Mac, but you still need to use workarounds of varying degrees of complexity to install OS X on it.
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To be fair MartyJ basing how techie someone is on how many devices they own isn't a very sensible idea. To own an Apple Mac you have to have a decent income, as they don't make cheap machines, which surely means you're more likely to also have expensive smartphones, camcorders etc.
I agree, but my point was that people who consume the latest devices with such a voracious appetite are hardly troglodyte technophobes.
That's a fair point. I'm sure there are just as many knowledgable people using Apples as PCs and just as many who are clueless.
It gets depressing sometimes reading the bashing that goes on, I remember it all from the C64/Spectrum and ST/Amiga days.It's my problem, it's my problem
If I feel the need to hide
And it's my problem if I have no friends
And feel I want to die0 -
Originally Posted by busenbust
The Apple Time Capsule is a hard drive and AirPort Extreme Base Station in one box, functioning as a wireless and Ethernet router as well as a backup device. But, important to note, there is no in-built modem.
HTH
Let me be a bit more transparent in this post. I do understand your caveat about "It would be nothing more than an expensive router for me." For example, you might already have a router/modem working perfectly fine, but the Time Capsule does indeed function as a wireless and Ethernet router as well as a backup device (1T or 2T). And a very nice wireless backup device it is too: seamless integration with your network and very easy to set up. Note also what I said about a lack of a built-in modem - just in case the product does appeal to you.
I bought the Time Capsule thinking that I could use it as an external hard drive and additional memory for my Mac in the sense that I could save things to it just in the same way I can to the hard drive built into my Mac. It seems, however, that it's an external hard drive but only for backing up the hard drive built into my Mac. Is this correct?
If not, and I can actually use it as a hard drive for doing things other than just backing up my Mac's hard drive, can someone tell me how I go about setting it up as such?0 -
Yes, by being an @rsehole, treating his employees badly and abandoning his kid when his then girlfriend told him she was pregnant. He's allowed her into his life now but back then he didn't want to know.
No one asked you to be his friend.Yes cheaper, more powerful and better.
"Better" in what sense?I've recently built a new power house PC for less that 1k. An Apple wouldn't be able to come close to the power of it for less than 1k.
Apple only has two traditional desktop computers: a Mac Mini and a Mac Pro, neither of which are particularly traditional in design. Your self-built "power house" lacks may features of both. If you don't want a computer that's two inches tall, virtually silent, has two quad core processors, or has all the internal components on sliding shelves for easy upgrading, then fine. But don't pretend that your computer does everything a Mac does.Have no problem with people owning or wanting to buy Apple. I just feel with Windows 7 being so good now, it's cheaper to buy a PC.
It can be cheaper to buy a PC. It can also be more expensive. Horses for courses really.0
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