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[Jimibeee]

just to let you h=guys know that when you see the brand
FOEHN & HIRSCH


it is simply ebuey buying white goods from the far east and rebranding them, I have had trouble with two mp3 players from that brand and Ebuyer wont admit they own the brand dispite buying it from them
here is the brand patent from the patent office :
http://ns3.patent.gov.uk/types/tm/t-...stic-6753.html

[RobertoMoir]

Well it's a shame that you've had a problem with these MP3 players but what's wrong with ebuyer having their own brand?

[jona26]

Originally Posted by RobertoMoir

Well it's a shame that you've had a problem with these MP3 players but what's wrong with ebuyer having their own brand?

I agree - surely it's no different to ASDA selling Own Brand products that could be exactly the same as those sold in Tesco, made by the same manufacturer but with a different label?

[PopeSock]

Or Dixons having their own 'Matsui' brand.. which probably seemed like a good idea at the time. It sounds Japanese, right? Except that Matsui is also the last name of the Japanese general/war criminal deemed responsible for the Nanking Massacre.

[Cairodave]

We have bought a Foehn and Hirsch LCD tv and are delighted with the quality. We regularly purchase from Ebuyer because we find them reliable and have never had a problem with any of their products.

[hawkwinddotcom]

Originally Posted by Cairodave

We have bought a Foehn and Hirsch LCD tv and are delighted with the quality. We regularly purchase from Ebuyer because we find them reliable and have never had a problem with any of their products.

Wages okay at Ebuyer?

[savemoney]

Thanks My friend bought a tv from them this weeks he said that is Swedish, name might sound Swedish but now we know differently

[bealine99]

what's wrong with ebuyer having their own brand?

Nothing whatsoever - if it's legal, decent, honest andf truthful!

Having dealt with ebuyer a few times previously, I would have no qualms whatsoever with buying their own brand merchandise, but why not call it "Ebuyer" - why dress it up with a Swedish or German sounding name if it isn't intended to mislead the public? Asda's own brand "George" or Marks and Spencer "St Michael" or British Homes Stores "Prova" and Tesco's "Delamare" (that's going back a bit!) were never intended to hoodwink anyone - in fact, those honourable companies were proud of their own brands!

Unfortunately for ebuyer, I have high moral and ethical standards so I won't be dealing with them any more, as I don't knowingly deal with others like Dixons/Currys/PC World who deliberately mislead or misinform:

The Foehn and Hirsh, Matsui and Packard-Bell brands may be fine products - but the names are intended to mislead, making the businesses behind them dishonest traders.

If you're happy to be treated as a "mug" then that's your affair.

[BFG]

Originally Posted by bealine99

Nothing whatsoever - if it's legal, decent, honest andf truthful!

Having dealt with ebuyer a few times previously, I would have no qualms whatsoever with buying their own brand merchandise, but why not call it "Ebuyer" - why dress it up with a Swedish or German sounding name if it isn't intended to mislead the public? Asda's own brand "George" or Marks and Spencer "St Michael" or British Homes Stores "Prova" and Tesco's "Delamare" (that's going back a bit!) were never intended to hoodwink anyone - in fact, those honourable companies were proud of their own brands!

Unfortunately for ebuyer, I have high moral and ethical standards so I won't be dealing with them any more, as I don't knowingly deal with others like Dixons/Currys/PC World who deliberately mislead or misinform:

The Foehn and Hirsh, Matsui and Packard-Bell brands may be fine products - but the names are intended to mislead, making the businesses behind them dishonest traders.

If you're happy to be treated as a "mug" then that's your affair.

So should things sold by 'British' firms have British names??

What about if it was British but is owned by French/Spanish - which language do we use?

What about Sony gear - some is made in China - so since China doesn't use our letters should it have just Chinese characters instead of a name??

Philips [Dutch] has an english-sounding name, but assembles stuff in the Philipines with components from China and India - so the name should be???

What about Toyota - makes the same car in three different countries - should there be three different manufacturuer and model names if we import from all 3 sources?? Gee that's not confusing at all.

[jav87]

i have jst bought a 19" TV/DVD LCD combo from ebuyer.......
however i am trying to watch DVDs but whenever i put a disc in the screen comes up as "NO DISC", all DVDs that i have tried are genuines and not copies.....
wondering if anyone could help plz......

[Halloway]

Originally Posted by bealine99

Unfortunately for ebuyer, I have high moral and ethical standards....

...If you're happy to be treated as a "mug" then that's your affair.

Anyone else see a slight contradiction there?

[1carminestocky]

Originally Posted by BFG

So should things sold by 'British' firms have British names??

What about if it was British but is owned by French/Spanish - which language do we use?

What about Sony gear - some is made in China - so since China doesn't use our letters should it have just Chinese characters instead of a name??

Philips [Dutch] has an english-sounding name, but assembles stuff in the Philipines with components from China and India - so the name should be???

What about Toyota - makes the same car in three different countries - should there be three different manufacturuer and model names if we import from all 3 sources?? Gee that's not confusing at all.

OK, not consumer electronics but related in the sense that you need their 'product' to make them work - Scottish Power are wholly owned by a Spanish company.

[biscit]

I'm having difficulty with this idea that using an English sounding name is a more transparent way of naming an own brand than a more "foreign" sounding one.
I think "That sounds a bit foreign, it can't be an own brand" is an unreasonable assumption to make. For all I know FOEHN & HIRSCH could be the founders of ebuyer. It's not implausible.

[knightstyle]

Samsung is or was a UK company. They chose the name to make it look as if they were Japanese.

[grahawk]

Originally Posted by knightstyle

Samsung is or was a UK company. They chose the name to make it look as if they were Japanese.

Samsung is a South Korean company.

[RobertoMoir]

Originally Posted by bealine99

If you're happy to be treated as a "mug" then that's your affair.

Ah... I don't see things your way so I'm a "mug".
Thank you for your opinion. I'll be sure to treat it with the attention it deserves.

[darkan9el]

Its not really that difficult to guess that ebuyer made that name up. nice link to the intellectual property website though.

The Foehn & Hirsch website is crap, NO videos even though there is a link, you get the coming soon... text which basically means we can't be bothered, the more specs link gives you the same specs that you already see on the product page, both these things are very annoying, especially when you are interested in the product and are looking for info only to be let down. Its the same as click here to enlarge image and you get the same image

The products themselves seem to get good feedback in the reviews on the ebuyer site, just wish ebuyer would get their finger out and finish the website; very unprofessional ebuyer, to me it reflects the attitude of the brand and consequently ebuyer.

[icecube2009]

so has anyone actuially bought one of these and can tell me what its like? my son wants a 22" TV for christmas (from my parents) and we looked at the ones they do intesco with the dvd & ipod dock but they have terrible reviews so hubby suggested this one, it looks really nice & the reviews I have read seem good, this is just for a 12 year olds bedroom, and used probably more for gaming than watching TV, but he does watch the occasional DVD. We cant afford to spend a fortiune...any feedback appreciated...Thanks

[idealworld]

Originally Posted by icecube2009

so has anyone actuially bought one of these and can tell me what its like? my son wants a 22" TV for christmas (from my parents) and we looked at the ones they do intesco with the dvd & ipod dock but they have terrible reviews so hubby suggested this one, it looks really nice & the reviews I have read seem good, this is just for a 12 year olds bedroom, and used probably more for gaming than watching TV, but he does watch the occasional DVD. We cant afford to spend a fortiune...any feedback appreciated...Thanks

I bought the Foehn & Hirsch 19" HD Ready LCD TV/DVD Combo from Ebuyer in June, it was dead on arrival, it was returned and repaired then sent back to the wrong address, it was returned back to ebuyer then back to me (going to the wrong address again first) to find that it was dead on arrival, it was then returned once more before going back to the wrong address again and then Ebuyer attempted to deliver it back to me despite agreeing to a refund. I am now seeking legal advice and warn others against buying this model of TV. It is very cheap for a reason, mine had scratches and white marks on the shiny front after Ebuyer's technicians had supposedly repaired it!!!

I think you can tell I would not recommmend Foehn & Hirsch products.

[KeithP]

Originally Posted by jav87

i have jst bought a 19" TV/DVD LCD combo from ebuyer.......
however i am trying to watch DVDs but whenever i put a disc in the screen comes up as "NO DISC", all DVDs that i have tried are genuines and not copies.....
wondering if anyone could help plz......

Put the disc in the other way round... label towards the wall.

For some strange reason, all these tvs with built-in dvd players have them
round 'the wrong way'.

:rolleyes: