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Spartacus_Mills wrote: »That case struck me as very odd. How could a judge make "Shelley" responsible for the debt incurred by another individual. I know some on Pepipoo lept to the view that she was a PPC troll, sometimes there is too much of that, but something about that case struck me as very very odd.
I followed this on pepipoo & I have to agree, something was odd.
From start to finish she was totally focussed on the fact that she wasn't driving at the time, seeming to totally ignore all the advice about contract law, unfair/illegal penaltys etc.
Her post outlining her defence confirms that she never considered any other approach....My argument was that I was not the driver or passenger and so had not entered into any contract. No information regarding the notice was provided when I received the letter from Trethowans and that the BPA COD had not been followed. Judge did not think it was an unlawful penalty and that as I had the opportunity to provide details to Trethowans but failed to do so I was liable to pay.
What should have been an easy defence was totally undermined by her refusal to accept advice she had asked for... something I found a bit weird to say the least!
Her final post was that she could appeal, nothing since!
Like ptp, I'm amazed that no case number or transcript of the "win" has been posted... I don't believe any PPC would miss the chance.
Something definately smells & it's not the contents of Baldricks apple crumble
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Shaun_Goater wrote: »I met with my solicitor yesterday who has been instructed to apply for 15 new judgements for 2 of my clients. I hope that some of them are defended and trust me one way or the other the results will end up on here and no doubt on the MIGHTY Pepipoo. If the defendents win, fair enough. I will have been wrong. However what if I win? Will you all admit defeat and that you were wrong? Or will you claim conspiracy, mitigating circumstances, fix, etc, etc? Unfortunaltey I am sure it will be the latter.
I think that your understanding of how the Small Claims system works is about as good as some chancer called Jason Brierley, whose understanding of how to set up a legitimate debt collection agency and a 'secure' collections website leaves much to be desired:
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=48778
Go on tell us - have we won 'What's my Line'?! Are you Jason Brierley from PCS? :rotfl:PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Apply for judgments ?
I propose that a credibility gap the size of a yawning chasm has just swallowed Mr Goater.
As for Small Claims court, it is inconsequential and unpredictable.
One may wonder why a Private Parking Company has not pursued a case to a court of record. Speaking for myself I have no doubt why they have not done so.0 -
I still have reservations about the "Shelley" incident and whilst the poster's behaviour since the alleged case was heard could be regarded as odd if one was to look at it from the point of view, perhaps, of a well-intentioned amateur, fired-up by the (good) advice from ppp going into the court half-prepared - expecting a slum-dunk - only to be met by a liverish judge and a half-competent agent, it suddenly doesn't look so bad, I'd suggest. Especially if you add to the mix the embarrassment she may have suffered by having, seemingly, "cocked-up" so badly.
The PPC trolls almost immediate jumping on the matter may just have been coincidental.
Some siren voices scream "conspiracy" but are we really suggesting that any of the PPC-troll posters here, or elsewhere, none of whom have yet marshalled anything approaching a cogent legal argument, actually have the intelligence - not to say the vocabulary - to be able to pull it off?My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016).
For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com0 -
Thanks to all that contributed and sorry that some of you were upset. My wife has decided in future, not to park anywhere in the supermarket car park as we don't need the hassle fines/invoices and risking damage again by parking in a normal bay. All you parents out there, that's one less out for you to worry about! We will not be paying the fine/invoice (£70 is extortianate anyway) and I'll now be picking her up once she has finished shopping.0
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You all make me laugh, you must all be on the dole.
You all have the time to sit and write essays on how not to pay a parking charge ( sad really)....
If you have parked incorretly in accordence with the rules on site ( which are situated on the CLEAR signage) then what's the problem....pay your charge...
Theres plenty of things going on in the world, really dont understand why its such a big deal...
If you do not want letters regarding parking charges, then its simple really.........DO NOT BREAK THE SITE RULES!!!!!
Wonder if people was parking on your drive way whether you would feel the same then??? ( I doubt not)0 -
numberonexx wrote: »You all make me laugh, you must all be on the dole.
You all have the time to sit and write essays on how not to pay a parking charge ( sad really)....
If you have parked incorretly in accordence with the rules on site ( which are situated on the CLEAR signage) then what's the problem....pay your charge...
Theres plenty of things going on in the world, really dont understand why its such a big deal...
If you do not want letters regarding parking charges, then its simple really.........DO NOT BREAK THE SITE RULES!!!!!
Wonder if people was parking on your drive way whether you would feel the same then??? ( I doubt not)
What parking company do YOU work for?What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?0 -
Excel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?0 -
numberonexx wrote: »If you have parked incorretly in accordence with the rules on site ( which are situated (?) on the CLEAR signage) then what's the problem....pay your charge...
Theres plenty of things going on in the world, really dont understand why its such a big deal...
If you do not want letters regarding parking charges, then its simple really.........DO NOT BREAK THE SITE RULES!!!!!
Wonder if people was parking on your drive way whether you would feel the same then??? ( I doubt not)
Oh dear, we rattled the troll's cage so much he's resurrected an old thread.
You made me laugh then Perky (or is it Jason Brierley, or maybe Ash Sh--Wood?)! :rotfl:
You just don't get it do you? It's such a 'big deal' because your industry is just a protection racket (= a scam, a con - are they short enough words for you to understand?). We don't like innocent people being scared into paying bullies who lie about the legal position of fake PCNs.
There's no difference between your line of 'work' and rogue traders who knock on doors, charging old people stupid amounts of money for no reason. In fact, why don't you just cut out the middle men (your sad team of fake 'wardens') and just hold up motorists and steal the money from them? Oh yeah...some PPCs already do, they are called clampers...
When you end up on the dole when people simply stop paying your scamming company, you are hardly going to get another job easily! Let me guess how a typical PPC goon's CV would read:
GCSEs = none (didn't turn up), or just ICT 'cos it's easy, there's no exam but still only got a grade E;
spelling & grammar - what's that?, missed that lesson, 'must of' been bunking off...
experience - mugging old people & families who can least afford it...
Like most on here, I have a full time job but also enough time to help people being ripped off by knuckle-dragging, pie-eating conmen, who cannot even string a sentence together properly let alone produce car park signs that mean anything at all.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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hahaha coupon-mad (very sad username)..
I would be careful what you are saying on these forums, ill-advising people to not pay as it is a ''scam'', sorry are any of you solicitors? or even work in the legal profession?
I guess not...
So for example if i parked my car in a disabled bay ( mainly because i could not be bothered to walk from the back of the car park to the shop), you could not find a disbaled bay to park in and had a disabled/elderly relative with you, would i be wrong?
You see when you put the boot on the other foot, things appear different dont they?
At the end of the day if the signs clearly state ''parking in a disabled bay you must display a badge'', i can not understand where the issue is..
If a space is taken it is stopping a disabled customer from parking on site....so surely a charge should be issued...don't you think?0
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