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If we vote for Brexit what happens
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It would be illegal under WTO rules for the EU to treat us differently to any other country.
And other countries have no problem accessing the EU market.
And this is what it's come to.
From - We're going to get £350 million a week for the NHS, billions more in saved membership fees, and they'll be begging us for a trade deal to, 'WTO rules and pray they don't treat us differently.'
In spite of the fact that the EU has quite happily locked other countries industries out of the single market and paid the WTO fines in the past, even when the other country is the United States as in the case of GM food, or the fact that the EU has used their enormous clout to hammer mega corporations like Microsoft in the past.
But hey. British widget manufacturers, not a single one of whom wants Brexit, will happily weather the storm.0 -
The majority of under 40s want the UK to be part of the EU,
Not only is that incorrect, it's also irrelevant.and nationally only 33% of those eligible to vote, voted Leave. So your claims of having the backing of "the British People" are hollow to say the least.
Every single person who didn't vote gave their explicit approval of whatever those who did vote said they wanted.
So tough luck.0 -
The majority of under 40s want the UK to be part of the EU, and nationally only 33% of those eligible to vote, voted Leave. So your claims of having the backing of "the British People" are hollow to say the least.
Interestingly the elderly supported Macron and his pro-EU vision;
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/nearly-half-young-french-voters-marine-le-pen-emmanuel-macron-french-election-2017-a7723291.html
Nearly half of young French voters back Marine Le Pen, projections suggest
Far-right candidate receives support from just 20 per cent of over-65s0 -
As Liam Fox has now said there will be no new money at all for the NHS, let alone £350 million a week, and Amber Rudd has already given up on reducing immigration - one wonders what actually will be left.
What will you chose to spend the c£25 million daily EU club fee on once we leave?
Whatever way you want to cut it, it's a huge sum and the public understood this.
We want the an orderly immigration system, you know like that well known racist nation, Canada, has.0 -
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Talk me through the benefits to the c5 million European workers who's jobs involve trade with UK, of their Govts deciding to make their trade with the UK harder.
The people negotiating for the EU will, of course, be pro-EU and may think that extending the European project will have longer term benefits for European workers. i.e. project Europe might just trump short term concerns about trade with the UK.
They might be wrong about this but it's easy to see the French result as an endorsement for more Europe.
We should also note the EU economy is now recovering. If they are wrong prioritising project Europe over trade with the UK a growing economy will hope smooth the waters.0 -
sevenhills wrote: »Or to send a message to the UK Government, as it is they that are ignoring the electorate?
Really? I know what I voted for, and that was for Britain to remain independent, with the right to self-determination, democracy, the right to make our own laws and to decide who comes into our country and in what numbers.
I have never voted to be part of a superstate, dominated by Germany, and run by an unelected, ever-more dictatorial politburo on the Continent. In fact, before the migrant crisis, I wasn't even aware that this was the aim of the EU, having always thought that our membership of the EU was economical, not political.
I am particularly angry about the fact that such a construct was to be imposed on us without the population – of continental European countries as well as Britain – ever being allowed a say in whether it actually wanted to be part of a superstate. Unfortunately, many continental European countries have now been made economically dependent on Germany (and until now on Britain). I feel very sorry for the people in the countries that have been impoverished by the EU, with the resulting very high youth unemployment and a lost generation. This will only get worse with the drive towards ever-cheaper labour and its endless availability, coupled with increasing automation and fewer jobs – it won't be only the 'working' class that will be affected, but eventually the middle class as well.
Even if the EU manages to struggle on without Britain for a while, eventually it will fall – there is no way an empire made up of diverse nations, each with its own unique history and ideas, can survive in the long term. The extraordinary thing is that those who are attempting to force it onto populations still believe it can succeed – but then their personal vested interests and lust for power come into play here.0 -
The people negotiating for the EU will, of course, be pro-EU and may think that extending the European project will have longer term benefits for European workers. i.e. project Europe might just trump short term concerns about trade with the UK.
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Again look at what real people in Europe are saying about impending self harm;
HOLLAND FEARS
The Netherlands should push for the European Union to keep strong trade ties with Britain after the British quit the EU, a report commissioned by the Dutch parliament said on Tuesday.
Britain is the Netherlands' second-largest trading partner, accounting for 9 percent of exports, according to the paper by two members of the Dutch parliament.
"Any restriction on free trade with Britain would inevitably be at the cost of Dutch exports, prosperity and employment," it said.
For the Netherlands, allowing Britain to crash out of the EU with no agreement in place would be "very undesirable" because of trade tariffs that would "without doubt damage the Dutch economy," the report said.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-netherlands-idUKKBN16S17A?il=0
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