If we vote for Brexit what happens

kabayiri wrote: »

Labour has nothing to offer the people of Stoke IMO. You only have to visit the place to see that.

It's clear that Corbyn does not either understand or care about the issues people face outside London/home counties. The party campaigners would be well served by keeping off the doorsteps in places like Stoke.

Completely agree.

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

I see our usual suspect above suggests a hung parliament!
Thanks, CK - you have given me the biggest LOL I've had in a long, long time.

We know polls can be wrong.
We know opinions can change.
But to the degree you suggest is nothing short of fantasy.
Barring an as yet discovered disaster, everything points towards the Tories increasing their majority significantly.

Oh dear. I've explained what I think and why, and once again have been told I know nothing, with no explanation on why you think I'm wrong.

I've also explained why I don't think there will be anywhere near a uniform swing nationally and how this has largely reflected in my thinking. I've even gone further and broken that down in numbers for you, using 4 constituencies in different parts of the country held by different parties as examples of this.

You're using nothing more than opinion polling and national swings to suggest otherwise, so I'd suggest that you're the one that's wrong, however no one knows, no party has started campaigning yet for a GE and no one knows what any party will throw up in their manifesto. On top of this no one seems to know exactly what the largest portion of the country wants in relation to a future relationship with the EU.

So, if you'd like to give an explanation as to exactly why you think I'm wrong using numbers and fully breaking it down, feel free. If you don't, then stop throwing insults around and showing off to your mates on here just for the sake of it.

Here's a question.

May hinted at parliamentary MPs not working together to secure the best Brexit deal.

In effect, this is a populist protest position you'd expect from someone like Nigel Farage : the idea that "them Westminster types" don't really respect your humble vote dear voter.

Can a serving PM really carry off such a position?

Trump, a self promoting billionaire, managed to pick up voters who hate Wall Street, so stranger things have happened.

Moby wrote: »

I'd like to believe you were right but it is pretty clear May will have a huge majority of 80-100 seats. I'm thinking this will free her hand and get the idealogue loons of her back. She is pragmatic and will hardly want to steer us away from the huge market on our doorstep despite her 'Brexit means brexit' rhetoric!

The markets seem unclear on the motivation only the outcome. I agree its likely that she will be returned with a bigger majority and clearly believes it will strengthen her hand in negotiations. Not sure if this in negotiations with the EU or her own party!

Your theory that she is a closet soft Brexiter is plausible. But equally plausible is that such a majority will enable her to get rid of her more pragmatic "friends" and steam on to the hard Brexit promised land.

Conrad wrote: »

To give her a rock solid Brexit mandate, which strengthens her position at the EU table, free of the constant background of Remoaners determined to undermine her negotiating position.

She said as much in her speech, specifically mentioning Lib Dems, Scots Nats, she might even have alluded to Labour in case they felt left out, and (demagogic touch some advisor must have told her might go down well with some parts of public) "unelected Lords" (doing the job they were unelected to do). Naturally she didn't mention Tories, who will now be obliged to march more or less in step behind her, nor the deluded Brexiteers whose illusions she will be free of and be in a position to shrug off one by one in the agreements she reaches.