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  • MSE_Martin wrote: »
    After all the chat about wanting changes, Im a little disappointed there are no suggestions :(





    May I suggest the coding and addition of two more radar buttons alongside "report" they being "Off-Thread" or "Off Topic/Subject" and another for "Personal Abuse"


    These two buttons would:-
    a) Self Sort and categorise "reports" freeing up forum team resources.
    b) flag up repeated abusers/rule breakers.
    c) clean up the whole forum and move back to real issues rather than the current drift to a chat site.
  • Apologies for omission-


    d) allow for individual posts to be removed, thus cleansing the threads and removing unnecessary, irrelevant, unwanted personalised insult and comment, bad example setting and clutter.
  • May I suggest the coding and addition of two more radar buttons alongside "report" they being "Off-Thread" or "Off Topic/Subject" and another for "Personal Abuse"


    These two buttons would:-
    a) Self Sort and categorise "reports" freeing up forum team resources.
    b) flag up repeated abusers/rule breakers.
    c) clean up the whole forum and move back to real issues rather than the current drift to a chat site.
    Apologies for omission-


    d) allow for individual posts to be removed, thus cleansing the threads and removing unnecessary, irrelevant, unwanted personalised insult and comment, bad example setting and clutter.


    There is already a button that exists to report personal abuse. It looks like this:
    report.gif
    Anyone can report posts, even if the abuse is not being aimed at them.

    As for off topic posts, this site has board guides, and supposedly, one of their roles is to help keep threads on topic.
    According to the forum rules:
    If you've been asked to keep a thread on track but this hasn't happened, off-topic posts may be removed.

    And of course, users may delete any of their own posts (except an opening post of a thread that has received replies, or where the thread has been locked) at any time.


    Or are you asking for the ability to remove posts made by others yourself that you don't agree with? Even if that is not what you are asking, how would your proposals prevent it being used as such by others?
  • Intelligent1
    Intelligent1 Posts: 98 Forumite
    edited 29 June 2014 at 1:31PM
    darkfield wrote: »
    There is already a button that exists to report personal abuse. It looks like this:
    report.gif
    Anyone can report posts, even if the abuse is not being aimed at them.

    As for off topic posts, this site has board guides, and supposedly, one of their roles is to help keep threads on topic.
    According to the forum rules:


    And of course, users may delete any of their own posts (except an opening post of a thread that has received replies, or where the thread has been locked) at any time.


    Or are you asking for the ability to remove posts made by others yourself that you don't agree with? Even if that is not what you are asking, how would your proposals prevent it being used as such by others?



    Thank-you for your reply.

    Your choice of the word supposedly shot out of the page at me for it was the lack of board guide presence or action (possibly even jointly engaged in the abuse or was dragged off track too through misunderstanding) that prompted the proposed solution.

    If what you say rightly say is supposed to happen and indeed had been, perhaps I would not have even though of the need to put forward this suggestion of a more automated IT based tool to remove wrongful subjective decision making and prompt posters to desist from there personal attacks which flagrantly break the board rules.

    In the first sentence I did say alongside the present REPORT button (hence I know about that) and the suggestion was to auto-sort and reduce workload classifying reports made with the report button.

    Eg report gravity level 1, 2, or 3 or type a, b, or c. Which would take more time and be labour intensive to have to be analysed and judged by a forum team member, after deciphering the nature of the report, or the need to refer back and ask further questions of the reporter regarding the nature of the report. It would allow immediate initial knowledge of which of the posting rules the reporter claims was broken.

    Similar to a call handling system or different reception desk in a face to face customer contact centre, to get you to the right department and so into the correct queue but without the telephone or reception desk.

    Basically to speed up the process, improve accuracy and remove human workload and errors by board guides etc, or anyone involved with the report when not fully or correctly reading or understanding what was written in a report and so therefore necessitating follow up emails querying the nature of the report.

    I proposed this based on the statement that the forum team have to deal with 10's of 1000's of reports daily illustrating the clear need of a totally robust clean up and more automated reporting procedure but I am not proposing cutting out the forum team as the operative decision maker.

    In response to your last question. I didn't realise that if added to the code that it would be written in without a lock out or some other means of preventing abuse.

    I should have remembered the rogue "score adjuster" who keeps tampering with the "thumbs up" and "thumbs down" score responses on my local newspapers comments Webpage. Perhaps the present report button could redirect to another page to clarify and categorise the issue and/or severity, if too many buttons could lead to abuse of the reporting system.

    It seems that there is a wide variation and much grey area as to what is personalised attack and what is off subject - especially if the first response seriously clouds the subject or distorts the OP wording/message.

    Hope I've clearly covered my point.
  • First of all, please forgive me if (a) this is the wrong place to post, or (b) it's already been addressed. I'm sure someone will point me in the right direction, though, so thank you for that. (I did do a quick search, but it came up with "sorry no matches".)

    I'm a regular user of the competitions board. I think the tick and the cross are excellent ways to keep track of where you've already seen, as well as the thanks button. I also think the search facility is very good.

    However, I don't know if it's just me doing something wrong or if anyone else has the same problem, but ...

    ... when I use the search facility, I always first of all search the forum for the end date. i.e. "e: 01/09" for competitions ending 1 September. Then I make it more specific by searching "titles only". So far, so good.

    When the end date is, say, 9 September, my search criteria is "e: 09/09". But instead of fetching up all the threads announcing competitions ending 9 September, it switches to just "Search: Keyword(s): 09 ; Forum: Competitions Time", meaning it searches for all instances of 09 in the title, or for the whole of September. But only for a maximum of 12 pages (not sure if that's my settings or a default, but it's usually the most I get).

    So my question is this: "Am I doing something wrong, how can I do it right?"

    And my suggestion is: Can the forum be fixed so that if you enter, say, "e: 09/09", in the search criteria field, it looks for 09/09 instead of just 09?

    I don't want to miss any that might appear after page 12, or any that end on 01/01, 02/02, 03,03, and so on. :D

    Thank you for reading. I'll subscribe to make sure I see any replies.

    PS Thanks to everyone who works so hard on both the forum in general and the competitions board in particular. :j
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  • JDPower
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    When the end date is, say, 9 September, my search criteria is "e: 09/09". But instead of fetching up all the threads announcing competitions ending 9 September, it switches to just "Search: Keyword(s): 09 ; Forum: Competitions Time", meaning it searches for all instances of 09 in the title, or for the whole of September. But only for a maximum of 12 pages (not sure if that's my settings or a default, but it's usually the most I get).

    So my question is this: "Am I doing something wrong, how can I do it right?"
    You're not doing something wrong. This is something I believe I reported long ago - the correct way round this is to put the search term in quotation marks, which with any other site searches for the exact term entered, but that doesn't work on this forum so you're screwed trying to search for any repeated word terms (not just dates, ANY search term you use with a word that occurs twice in the search query)
  • fermi
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    A request by a user here:

    How can I get post content in email notification?

    that the post content is added back into the new post email notifications for subscribed threads.

    I realise this was probably taken out for privacy reasons, so that people are not emailed with post content that people or the team may have thought better and removed.

    The feature would be restored by editing the $vbphraseB]notify[/B in the standard phrases.

    The default vbulletin phrase that includes reply text is:
    Dear $touser[username],

    $bbuserinfo[username] has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - $threadinfo[prefix_plain]$threadinfo[title] - in the $foruminfo[title_clean] forum of $vboptions[bbtitle].

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    Here is the message that has just been posted:
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  • JDPower
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    fermi wrote: »
    A request by a user here:

    How can I get post content in email notification?

    that the post content is added back into the new post email notifications for subscribed threads.

    I realise this was probably taken out for privacy reasons, so that people are not emailed with post content that people or the team may have thought better and removed
    Would be nice to have as an option, but should be off by default, otherwise with an email database as big as this site it gives any spammers instant access into millions of peoples inboxes.
  • fermi
    fermi Posts: 40,542 Forumite
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    Yes, that as well. There's a range of reason not to have it on a site like this.

    Not something that could be added as a user option without a hack/mod of the site code, custom or otherwise, but would imagine a decent web dev could sort it.
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  • fixx
    fixx Posts: 792 Forumite
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    Please re-instate the ability to jump to new unseen posts in a thread - vital for a forum this size!
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