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Monarch delays & Compensations. Listed flights denied in O.P.
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Ok, so received an e mail from monarch today.... Any advice welcome....
"Our records show that the aircraft scheduled to operate your flight was declared unserviceable and unsafe to operate your flight due to a technical fault on the number two engine inboard pylon. Consequently, the departure of your flight was unavoidably delayed as a result.
It was also unfortunate that despite Monarch’s best efforts, we were unable to transfer your flight to another Monarch aircraft from within our fleet, or indeed to transfer passengers to an aircraft chartered from a third party operator."
Do I still have a claim? I thought technical issues didn't count as EC?
What should be my next step now...court?
Thanks in advance :-))
Next step is to issue the NBA, then if no joy you are off to court I'm afraid.
I'd be interested to know what their 'best efforts' to transfer you to another aircraft (theirs or third party) were. How hard did they try?
That they are now mentioning this is a change to the standard wording of their rebuttals I think. Somebody at Monarch obviously recognises they are weak on the 'all reasonable measures' requirement.0 -
Ok, so received an e mail from monarch today.... Any advice welcome....
"Our records show that the aircraft scheduled to operate your flight was declared unserviceable and unsafe to operate your flight due to a technical fault on the number two engine inboard pylon. Consequently, the departure of your flight was unavoidably delayed as a result.
It was also unfortunate that despite Monarch’s best efforts, we were unable to transfer your flight to another Monarch aircraft from within our fleet, or indeed to transfer passengers to an aircraft chartered from a third party operator."
Do I still have a claim? I thought technical issues didn't count as EC?
What should be my next step now...court?
Thanks in advance :-))
Send an NBA letter with 14 day response or you will go to court and produce their letter confiming the problem. If they do not fold they are idiots after letting you know the problem.0 -
Monarch have a list of flights they pay compensation for, ones they know, under any circumstances they have no chance in hell of defending legally. Operational changes, crewing issues, one was a flight where it diverted to pick up a spare for an Aircraft which went tech.
If you're fortunate enough to be claiming for one of those, they will simply just pay you after you complete their forms.
Ooh, a list, eh? Can we all have a look?
My hubby and I have been refused compensation for a delay of 8 hours due to 'crewing issues' on the flight before ours.
Our claim went in to MCOL last week. Should be interesting.0 -
I have today received by email Monarch claiming EC and they also said they sent a letter 22 Feb 13 that I never received.
The captain had informed us that the aircraft had, whilst undergoing routine overnight maintenance to change a filter, had a bolt sheer, that required the engine stripping down. The flight was already delayed before we checked in and we all had the pleasure of watching it being worked on for the next 7 hours or so. The flight was definitely on the ground for some period so it wasn't like a fault was identified just prior to take off. I know that tech delays should not warrant EC and hasn't it just been confirm in the EU ruling that technical delays after maintenance cannot be counted as EC? I guess either way its small claims court the next stop?
I also note post 1559 was a rejected which was the return flight that day.
Re: MON1828 Manchester to Corfu on 4th June2012
Further to your claim for delay compensation, we are writing to advise of our conclusion.
Providing our passengers with a safe and efficient service is our first priority. We would like to reassure you that every reasonable effort is made to ensure that Monarch Airlines flights depart on time and in the unlikely event we are unable to do so through disruption, we aim to provide a solution at the earliest opportunity.
As previously advised, in some circumstances passengers may be entitled to compensation for such disruption under European Union laws. However, anymonetary payments are subject to certain criteria being satisfied. Under these laws where the disruption is caused by an ‘extraordinary circumstance’ which the airline was reasonably unable to prevent, the carrier is not obliged to pay compensation. Extraordinary circumstances have been defined by the courts and the European Regulations themselves provide a non-exhaustive list of which circumstances can indeed be categorised as extraordinary.
Our records show that the aircraft scheduled to operate your flight developed an engine fuel filter defect prior to departure and was therefore declared unserviceable. Engineers attended the aircraft and ascertained that a replacement component was required and that this would need to be shipped from Luton to Manchester. As a result the aircraft was not available at the scheduled departure time of your flight and a delay was caused. Despite Monarch’s best efforts there was no availability to transfer passengers to an alternative aircraft from within the fleet. As a consequence your flight departed at the earliest opportunity on the original aircraft once the fault had been rectified and declared safe to fly.
Having considered the factual background of this incident, we are satisfied that the disruption in your case was caused by an extraordinary circumstance that could not have reasonably been prevented by Monarch Airlines. We are, therefore,unable to accept your claim for compensation for the reasons given.
Pleasedo not hesitate to contact us if we can provide any further assistance or information.
Yours sincerely,
EU ClaimsTeam
Monarch Airlines
hi ive tried claiming from this flight but got the same letter as you.0 -
WEll apparently it is still listed for my local court although it has been transfered to Luton! and until the district Judge at luton who has the file inform them to vacate it is going there....
Witness statement to be now submitted to Luton, phoned to check what the hell was going on....
Apparently it is being combined with another case! according to computer...
I did point out several times on the phone that it should be being heard in the claimants local court and not the defendants!!! no reply...
Still nothing with regards the earlier letters either....lol
there is apparently a back log at Luton, quite a large one according to the court center, hmmmm me think there is a ploy by the defendant here, get them all there and jam the court system, thus taking longer to pay out ...lol:eek:0 -
Good news!
Having issued court claim on 21/5 and Monarch indicating they intended to defend in full on 23/5 was surprised to receive letter from court today enclosing a Full Admission from Monarch agreeing (reluctantly) to make payment for the full amount claimed.
I have entered judgement online, but will only really believe it when I see the cheque.
Post No. 786 ZB1377 refers (first of the orange ones on p1)
Signs that the walls are beginning to crumble??0 -
Quick but predictable update. 3 weeks and still no contact from Monarch. I know the court have been back in touch with Monarch to prompt some action but no response. One more week till the hearing..."Sometimes life sucks....but the alternative is unacceptable."0
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Quick update, I'm going through telephone shuttle mediation next week. The date Monarch originally gave the mediator they can no longer do, so it had to be rearranged (surprise surprise).
Good job I'm flexible, eh?0 -
First post on this subject though i have been reading your advise etc. I put in a claim a few months back with monarch for a flight delay going to Menorca on 29/8/2011 (ZB698) and received the claim forms from them which i filled in and sent back and i received an email saying they had agreed to the compo for the five of us and we would be receiving a cheque within 21 working days. 21 working days have now passed and still no cheque. Am i being fobbed off?0
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