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Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5
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"Germany is the leading breaker of EU rules"
https://global.handelsblatt.com/politics/germany-leading-breaker-eu-rules-883837No other country seems to lecture EU states as much as Germany. But, embarrassingly, Angela Merkel’s government is in breach of European regulations more than anyone else.0 -
According to the link what he said wasn't quite what you say he said.
"a barely-concealed, almost sneering disregard"
However I do have a sneering disregard for patriotism, it's worthless and makes you do really really stupid things. I prefer doing the right thing for everyone and letting go of the xenophobia, it seems I'm in the minority.
There's nothing wrong with patriotism. Perhaps you are confusing it with nationalism.0 -
They're still trying to form a coalition in Germany; it looks like Merkel's in for a late night.
If agreement is reached, here's a sign of how desperate they are to keep a fragile coalition together.
https://www.politico.eu/article/germanys-top-court-to-rule-on-legality-of-spd-vote/Germany’s Constitutional Court is looking into the legality of the Social Democrats’ plans to vote on a final coalition deal with Angela Merkel’s conservative alliance after it received five challenges to the process. The court will determine whether plans to give the SPD membership a vote on the coalition agreement are in line with the principle of representative democracy, according to German media.
It looks like someone is scared that too many of the 440,000 SPD voters might not agree with what the coalition might have thrashed out over these past weeks.0 -
Enterprise_1701C wrote: »Have you got anything positive to say phillw?
Don't you understand - people voted to leave, they want out of the eu, I voted to remain (though I have since changed my mind). Personally, now that the eu have shown their true colours, I simply want out.
If we get a trade deal fair enough, but wto would not be so bad. with some of the countries we trade with it would actually be better - things like eu tariffs on Africa (eg 7.5% on roasted coffee) come to mind.
I certainly do not wish to stay in a customs union with a protectionist federal state.
If Spain and Gibraltar are anything to go on, they have never supported us anyway, they did nothing about Spain blockading the road into Gib, they did nothing about Spanish ships invading British waters, and it was not until 2006 that Spain deigned to allow flights to Gib from anywhere but Britain. They have even had their military jets overfly Gib airspace without even contacting flight control, again, something the eu did nothing about.
We are leaving.
You can include me out of your "We." You chaps don't represent me or anyone I associate with.
Good luck with Gibraltarian Freedom Alliance. Another Imperial throwback turned tax avoiders paradise I couldn't care less about.0 -
You're not a UK resident then? Or have you planned your move into the wondrous EU-land already?You can include me out of your "We." You chaps don't represent me or anyone I associate with.
Good luck with Gibraltarian Freedom Alliance. Another Imperial throwback turned tax avoiders paradise I couldn't care less about.
Given your patently obvious horror at what being free of the EU's clutches will mean, surely you belong to one or the other of those?
Because if not you are a citizen of the UK who has accepted that democracy prevails, meaning that - like it or not - you are included in "we".0 -
In the absence of any news about the Brexit negotiations these pages are filled with news about the club we are leaving.
Do you miss the EU already?There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.0 -
Xenophobia describes the EU, not the UK.
The EU are protectionist; is that not also xenophobic?
Examples of some true EU xenophobia were posted earlier.
Whereas the UK and Brexiters in particular are outward-looking, wanting to embrace the wider world; that is certainly not xenophobic.
That (again) would be the EU, prioritising their own over and above the rest of the world.0 -
However most people when they say they are patriotic do confuse it with nationalism. The leavers in the referendum weren't proud of their country for what it was doing, because what it was doing was being a member of the EU. The nuance between the two is pretty much irrelevant, but if you voted leave then you're a nationalist.
This whole Brexit process has been highly enlightening for a Leave vote like me. I had no idea that millions of UK citizens had such a negative view of British democratic institutions and such a deep rooted admiration for the mainland European equivalents.“Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧0 -
Without actually wanting to sample these delights of mainland Europe themselves, you will note.This whole Brexit process has been highly enlightening for a Leave vote like me. I had no idea that millions of UK citizens had such a negative view of British democratic institutions and such a deep rooted admiration for the mainland European equivalents.
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I had no idea that millions of UK citizens had such a negative view of British democratic institutions and such a deep rooted admiration for the mainland European equivalents.
I thought leave voters were the ones with a negative view of british democratic institutions, at least they said they voted against the establishment.
You appear to have learnt very little so far, but you'll get your chance with the punishment brexit being orchestrated by May and Rees Mogg.tracey3596 wrote: »Without actually wanting to sample these delights of mainland Europe themselves, you will note.
Who says?0
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