Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

westernpromise

I saw Darkest Hour yesterday and was wondering if anyone here who has also done so recognised themselves in the film?

tracey3596

westernpromise wrote: »

I saw Darkest Hour yesterday and was wondering if anyone here who has also done so recognised themselves in the film?

Not my sort of thing TBH.
I'm not keen on films attempting to romanticize history, like Braveheart did with William Wallace for example.

To me it's a little like seeing that some of the remainers on here have suddenly started displaying good manners, accepted other opinions and stopped their derogatory comments.

Unrealistic in other words.

Shakethedisease

Michel Barnier!!!8207;
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Visiting European Banking Authority @EBA_News today.

Preparedness for #Brexit is key. All competent authorities and market operators have to prepare now. When the UK leaves the single market, the financial passport is gone.

Never mind eh.

gfplux

Rough_Justice wrote: »

For those interested a list of key Brexit dates.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-timeline/key-dates-in-brexit-process-idUKKBN1FP0S0?il=0

It!!!8217;s getting a bit more interesting after very little real news for the last few weeks.
I am looking forward to it.

Feb. 6-8 - Their teams meet in Brussels for the first talks on a transition period, plus how to enforce the divorce treaty and on ensuring there is no !!!8220;hard!!!8221; land border with Ireland.

Feb. 9 - Barnier and Davis!!!8217;s deputies meet in Brussels to wrap up those talks. In the first formal discussion of future relations, the British will explain customs and security ideas.

February - Prime Minister Theresa May is expected to give details on what kind of free trade agreement Britain wants. If she takes longer, the timetable could slip.

Feb. 23 - EU leaders will meet in Brussels without May for a summit on the post-Brexit EU budget and on restructuring the EU parliament after Britain has left. They may also discuss on the sidelines any indications London may give on its future hopes.

March - Once May has explained Britain!!!8217;s demands, the EU will prepare its detailed trade negotiating positions.

March 22-23 - By the time of this Brussels summit, both sides hope to have agreed a transition period deal that the EU leaders can endorse. The 27 leaders also hope to be able to approve a set of instructions to Barnier to secure a trade pact.

gfplux

westernpromise wrote: »

I saw Darkest Hour yesterday and was wondering if anyone here who has also done so recognised themselves in the film?

A wonderful film. Very enjoyable but did not recognise myself. I think it was due to poetic licence

Thrugelmir

tracey3596 wrote: »

I'm not keen on films attempting to romanticize history, like Braveheart did with William Wallace for example.

No romance. Churchill wasn't the preferred option. Churchill became a hero. As it was his decisions that led to the evacuation of the British Army from Dunkirk. History could have been so very different.

Like May right for the time. When peacetime returns then their job is done.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

Government additional financial support.

Would you like me to pass you a shovel to dig a bigger hole?

Shall we start with Macdonalds, Amazon and Ebay.............

Let's start with a level playing field. Juncker seems to have thought otherwise.

phillw

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Like May right for the time. When peacetime returns then their job is done.

Definitely. She's delivering a brexit that will be hated most by leavers.

If they wake up and notice soon then her job might come to an even quicker end.

Tromking

gfplux wrote: »

I know what I know and what I said.
Both systems are similar.

Paid for by social security contributions.
Government additional financial support.
Nearly free at point of delivery.

Where the differ
Luxembourg system adequately funded
Every prescription and procedure has a price and in many instances the citizen make a modest contribution.

Putting the relative merits of the NHS and other mainland European healthcare systems aside, adopting the Luxembourger system would be seen by Brits as a seismic shift in the way healthcare provided is by the state. Nearly free at the point of access, is not free. What you describe is in effect an insurance style excess payment, that would be an anathema to most UK citizens. The conversation you say we need about how we afford the NHS is not about card machines at hospital receptions but how much GDP we choose to spend on health.

Enterprise_1701C

Have you got anything positive to say phillw?

Don't you understand - people voted to leave, they want out of the eu, I voted to remain (though I have since changed my mind). Personally, now that the eu have shown their true colours, I simply want out.

If we get a trade deal fair enough, but wto would not be so bad. with some of the countries we trade with it would actually be better - things like eu tariffs on Africa (eg 7.5% on roasted coffee) come to mind.

I certainly do not wish to stay in a customs union with a protectionist federal state.

If Spain and Gibraltar are anything to go on, they have never supported us anyway, they did nothing about Spain blockading the road into Gib, they did nothing about Spanish ships invading British waters, and it was not until 2006 that Spain deigned to allow flights to Gib from anywhere but Britain. They have even had their military jets overfly Gib airspace without even contacting flight control, again, something the eu did nothing about.

We are leaving.