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Results: What is your favorite Las Vegas attraction

The Secret Garden

5.71% • 12 votes

The Bellagio Fountains

70.95% • 149 votes

The Sirens of TI

1.90% • 4 votes

The Lion Habitat

6.67% • 14 votes

The Fremont street experience

10.00% • 21 votes

Shark Reef

0.48% • 1 votes

The Stratosphere

6.67% • 14 votes

The Volcano @ Mirage

3.81% • 8 votes

The Eiffel tower

0.95% • 2 votes

Rio Masquerade show in the sky

1.43% • 3 votes

You may not vote on this poll

210 votes in total.

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    • trets77
    • By trets77 31st Dec 08, 11:48 AM
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    Las Vegas thread and MSE guide 2009
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    Las Vegas thread and MSE guide 2009 31st Dec 08 at 11:48 AM
    LAS VEGAS


    .. is not like other places you might have been, where the Hotels are near to the attractions . in Vegas the Hotels are the attractions. most have a huge casino attached , but if you think thats all there is to the place , you are sorely mistaken .



    in a Family Fortunes style question if you asked 100 people something they associate with Las Vegas , I'd bet you my house the top answer would be "gambling". yet there is so much more.



    This page cannot hope to cover everything , but hopefully should point you towards some good money saving tips

    How to get there



    Las Vegas is 5235 miles from London , with flight times in the region of 10 hours +

    you could book a package from pretty much any online or high street travel agent that would include flights and hotels. however this is a money saving site so we try to beat those prices by booking things separately .Thats not to say a package deal might not be a cheaper option . it's easy to work out if a deal you have been quoted is value for money . If the price of the package (X) is more than the price of the flight via the Airline (A) + the Price of the Resort ( or similar quality resort) listed in the deal links below (B) then why not save money and book things separately .

    so please before you post the question " is this a good deal ? " please work out the following is X>A+B ? . if you are booking in advance there might not be a deal for your hotel yet , but you should be able to get a reasonable idea of prices by looking at current deals, but be sure to factor in any holidays / sporting events / big conventions ect.

    only three airlines at the time of writing operate direct flights to Las Vegas , and only one of those operates flights everyday and BMI will terminate their direct flights Easter 2009 .


    Virgin fly everyday from Gatwick airport .however be warned this flight is poor quality IMO. the planes used (747's) are old , with cramped uncomfortable seats arranged in a bad configuration ,

    Virgin's new Airbus A340's planes and service are excellent but they are not on the Las Vegas route !!!

    That said going direct has big appeal , and when BMI stop their direct service , Virgin will be the only ones offering direct flights with decent baggage allowance .

    Make sure you take the Quidco cashback available if you book with Virgin


    Thomas Cook (AKA My travel )fly Wednesdays and Saturdays in summer and Wednesdays only in Winter , again from Manchester. Max jet was operating flights but went bust xmas 2007

    (a note about Thomas Cook flights , the baggage allowance is a very poor 15kg ( upgradeable to 20kg) , and the flights in June + July may well see your flight stopping off at Belfast or Glasgow to pick passengers up , making them not much better than indirect flights that connect in a American city . prices for these flights often get lower the nearer to your dates except in summer ..i.e June till September )

    IMPORTANT UPDATE: British Aiwrays have announced they will start a direct daily flight from Heathrow from October 2009

    http://www.lvrj.com/business/45249642.html

    should you consider flying indirect there are many choices available , and far too many to cover here, but please be sure you know what you are letting yourself in for . flying times direct are 10 hours plus . you can probably add a few hours on top of that flying indirect .

    Getting a good fare is not straightforward . Factors that can see you getting that good fare are
    Flexibility
    be prepared to travel mid week not at the weekends like everyone else.
    Preparation
    look into you flight upto 11 months before you fly if you can.
    Time of year
    most Brits like to take holidays June till September .
    Research
    asking advice to regular posters on this site .
    Airline Sales and Offers
    airlines know when people start thinking about booking trips , keeping very regular tabs on the airlines websites for sales and fare reductions is a good idea. also some airlines offer reduced fares for frequent flyer's and members of there flying clubs.MSE members have found good fares by booking before Xmas for the following year , when Xmas is over lots of people start planning their holidays.
    Risk
    great fares can be had if you a prepared to wait till very close to your chosen dates with My travel .

    before booking you should check that you qualify for entry to the USA under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP) . Also from January 2009 you will need to obtain a ESTA ( Electronic System for Travel Authorization ) to board a flight to the USA . you can find info on ESTA here . you can apply for one here

    Where to stay

    The Strip is where most visitors tend to stay , a few casinos worth staying at are slightly off strip and usually have a free shuttle bus to and from the strip.the other main area is called Downtown, where the standard of accommodation is lower ( and cheaper ) than most of the strip.



    if your a first time visitor you really should try to stay on the strip if your budget allows . you can then check out the other areas to see if you would consider them on a return visit.




    A common posted question on the old Las Vegas thread was "where is nice but reasonably priced ". It is a hard question to answer. none of the main strip hotels are likely to make it on to a " Hotels from Hell" show on ITV, but you do get what you pay for. a good starting place is to look at the following link

    http://www.vegas.com/resorts/

    anything with a Four star rating is unlikely to displease the Vast majority of people . but a fair few people will probably be happy with something in the Three star bracket and consider the hotel to be nice.



    A word of warning about using Tripadvisor to pick your hotel. there are nearly 300 hotels reviewed on the site meaning good hotels can end up way down the list in the 30's 40's and below . Also the site lists hotels that are in the Las Vegas area , but no where near the strip. South point for example is listed as 8th best reviewed hotel , and is on Las Vegas Boulevard but it is about a 15 min car ride to the heart of strip and is not walkable in any circumstances .

    The Hotels on the strip to be most wary about are unsurprisingly the cheapest. They are Circus Circus , The Stratosphere , The Rivera , Sahara , The IP , Excalibur ,Hooters and The Tropicanna . post for some advice before booking

    There is no set price for the majority of hotel rooms . it's a myth that rooms are given away for next to nothing. rooms are priced on a supply and demand basis . if the hotel is selling rooms at a high price why discount? but if they are not then there is no money to be made from empty rooms.



    prices for your hotel room can vary day to day , let alone week to week. Normal Friday and Saturday night prices are always more expensive than normal weekday prices ( upto 3 times as expensive is not unusual) . other things that can have a big impact on the price you pay to stay at your preferred location are.

    Big sporting events
    Super bowl weekend in January for example or the Rodeo finals at the start of December, March Madness basketball which starts on the 20th in 2008.. also Big Boxing matches

    Large Conventions
    Events like the The Consumer electronics show , can have 150,000 attending . here is a calendar to try to avoid large convention dates http://www.lasvegastourism.com/conventions_jan.htm

    USA public holidays
    19 Jan Martin Luther King Day.
    16 Feb Presidents' Day.
    25 May Memorial Day.
    4 Jul Independence Day.
    7 Sep Labor Day.
    12 Oct Columbus Day.
    11 Nov Veterans' Day.
    26 Nov Thanksgiving Day

    also special events like Halloween etc can push prices up.



    Popular times
    a lot of this has to do with the weather . July and August are often disliked because of the intense heat. January and December are also quite months ( pools often close down in October till March ) . That said Las Vegas is a year round destination. Many consider the best months to visit as April, May , Sept , and October . Prices for UK flights in traditional UK holiday months of June to Early Sept always seem to much more expensive than April or May ( excluding bank holidays and Easter of course) , yet April and May are better times to visit . By not going in the Traditional UK holiday season , you could save a considerable amount of money on your flight, meaning more money to spend on your hotel.


    finding a good deal on a room usually only requires a small amount of searching. Booking through the Hotels direct has BIG advantages . first you are cutting out the middleman . second all of the hotels operate the same booking policy, that you only need to pay your first nights rate as a deposit and the deposit is 100% refundable if you cancel upto 72 hours before you stay. this is generally the rule with all hotel offers but there are exceptions . Some Luxor offers and other MGM group owned casinos ,offers have recently have been NO REFUND offers and The Rivera charges a small cancellation fee at the time of writing. be sure to check all terms and Conditions before you book to be sure .Offers can become available any time , but generally start appearing 12 weeks before your dates


    There are several websites that list offers and discounts for hotels. remember these sites simply list the deals that Casinos release so there is no need for a flashy website.Unless stated the offers usually take you to a direct booking with the Casino
    The first link you should check/bookmark is the Fatwallet Las Vegas deals thread . there is very handy round up of all casinos current offers on the 1st page as well, make sure you check here for deals , before going into the most recent posts
    http://www.fatwallet.com/t/63/704925/10193203#m10193203

    Other sites to check out are

    http://www.vegas-promotions.com/

    http://www.vegashotelhunt.com/

    http://casinotripreports.com/smf/index.php?topic=57.0

    http://www.vegasmessageboard.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=13

    http://www.openvegas.com/vegas/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=17

    http://www.vegashotelspecial.com/

    http://www.harrahs.com/hot-deals/

    http://www.vegas-hotels-online.com/

    http://casinotripreports.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=3ccf0aabc1ad93b1d7868846e86c67 3e&topic=57.90

    http://www.smartervegas.com/

    http://www.earlyvegas.com/promo_codes.html

    http://www.vegasuncovered.com/pages/special_offers.htm

    please be careful about posting on these boards though as some are for the posting of deals only , not for questions on deals etc.


    some deals say they require you to be a member of the Players club to book. usually if you can book it without a players club ID, then they won't generally ask for it at check in.
    FAQ number 4 on the Fatwallet page (http://www.fatwallet.com/t/63/704925/10193203#m10193203) covers this subject well. but the important thing is NOT to bombard the hotel with phone calls and e mails about honoring the booking without a players club card. otherwise they might pull the offer ect ( or tip them off to very thing you are concerned about) . people on this thread have done these type of bookings without being signed up members .. no problem .you can of course join the club before checking in if you want . personally i would not worry , but don't be tempted to call the hotel if you book it and you are worried

    when you have found and booked a hotel , it's a good idea to keep checking the new offers as they come in on the Fatwallet Thread as you might find a better deal for the same dates . If the better offer is for the same hotel , you can probably get the hotel to match the better price under your existing booking by calling them up ( don't forget to use the MSE International call checker !!) . Really good offers may not hang around if there is a lot of interest , so get in early if you see a new one thats a great deal .

    Moving hotels is also a good idea if you find great deals for different blocks of nights , and is not as much hassle as you might think.

    Some people ask if it is better to find a hotel when you arrive , this is most defiantly not a good idea. besides the fact that you need to have your 1st nights stay booked up , to enter the USA under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP) , simply showing up at a casino without a booking will almost certainly mean you being charged "Rack Rate " for a room , which is pretty much the most you can end up paying.

    Arrival


    McCarren Airport is right next to the strip . Shuttle Buses operate to all the main casinos . A Taxi is by far the most popular way to get to your hotel though. you can find a good estimate of the fare to your Hotel here http://www.taxi.state.nv.us/FaresFees.htm
    if your hiring a car you will find directions clearly posted at the airport.
    If you really want to arrive in style why not rent a Limo from the airport , they cost around $50 a hour. If you share with someone off your flight it may work out as much as a Taxi

    Check in
    you can check in from the airport at some Casinos.
    when you check in the clerk will will assign you a room . some rooms of the same class are more desirable than others. Strip Views are always more sought after , as are corner rooms or rooms overlooking a casino attraction ( the Bellagio fountains for example) . also try to get a room that is not situated directly next to a elevator.you should try to do as much research on the rooms within your casino as possible to find out what to ask for
    Cash is King is Las Vegas.. the following sites give advice on how to try and obtain a upgrade or a better positioned room by tipping the check in clerk using The $20 Trick.This works more often than not , but you may find it harder to get a upgrade by doing this if you have a long stay, or if the hotel is fully booked .Also don't expect to get a Penthouse suite from a standard room booking , you will probably only get one or two steps up the luxury ladder

    http://www.frontdesktip.com/

    http://www.thetwentydollartrick.com/

    http://vegasuncovered.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/las-vegas-20-free-room-upgrade-trick/
    note: The MGM Grand is known to be a difficult place to use the $20 trick

    regardless of if you tip of not , if your not happy with the room , complain and get one you are happy with.


    Getting around
    If hiring a car you will have the choice of parking it yourself at the hotel( usually free) or using the Valet service ( a tip is usually given for Valet). The strip is very busy at most times traffic wise .Hiring a car gives you the freedom to explore the many great places to visit around Las Vegas , Like Lake Mead and The Hoover Dam for example , while being able to hop around the strip easily and cheaply


    Taxis are good option for speed and convenience , but cost more than the other methods of getting around the strip. also you cannot flag them down either , you have to get them called for you from the Casino or designated pick up areas .

    The Deuce is the local 24 hour bus service and is pretty reasonable.


    $7 is all it costs for a 24 hour pass up and down the strip. be warned though the buses fill up at popular mid strip locations and make it hard to get on at busy times.


    The Monorail runs from MGM Grand to The Sahara .


    full list of prices can be found here http://www.lvmonorail.com/ride/ticket_info/. while it is certainly fast, clean and comfortable ,the downside is that you have to walk through which ever casino you get off at. Casinos are designed to be difficult places to escape , so it can be a trek to get back to the strip. if your going less than a mile your probably better off walking.

    Strip Trolleys are cheap at $2.50 a ride or $4.50 for a all day pass. however they don't run 24 hours , are not the most comfy ride , and tend to drop you at the back and sides of casinos http://www.striptrolley.com

    There are also 2 free to ride Monorails . One connects The Mirage with Treasure Island. The Other one connects The Excalibur , Luxor and Mandalay Bay. This one has a interesting set up . If you catch it at The Excalibur it does not stop at the Luxor heading south. The Casino owners don't want you skipping Mandalay Bay , so it only stops at the Luxor on the return North journey .
    Eating
    There are hundreds upon hundreds of places to eat in Las Vegas. It would be impossible to scratch the surface in terms of recommendations on this Post. however we have started to put together a list of threads in which we give opinions on popular places to eat ..please see post 4

    Las Vegas provides pretty much every price range of food , from practically every type of world cuisine. from headline super pricey Celebrity chefs to cheap pile em high buffets ( and everything in between ) , you will find it in Vegas. so where do you choose to eat ??
    Your casino will almost certainly have more than a few places to eat at. But bare in mind the casino has a captive market so in house restaurants are often more expensive than independent/ off site restaurants . a good resource for dining options is a well researched guide book . i recommend "The Unofficial Guide To Las Vegas " it gives great tips on dining. or you can also find info and deals on this site www.restaurant.com

    There are still great deals to be had on food if your prepared to search them out. although some deals come and go , a few have been running for many years and should be around when you visit.

    $6.95 steak dinner at Ellis Island
    It's long been a table topper in Las Vegas Advisor's top 10 Vegas Values. a 10 oz Steak with salad , beans and choice of Potato . it's isn't actually on the menu though , you have to ask for it.available 24/7 . Ellis Island also does a highly rated BBQ for a mere $8.99. and thats not all, you can get a voucher for 2 for 1 meals @ Ellis island from either of the coupon books listed in the coupon section below.

    Shrimp Cocktail 99c at Golden Gate
    served from 11am till 2am

    Pasta at California Casino
    at the Pasta Pirate Restaurant

    Breakfast Specials $1.49
    served at Wild Wild West , Wildfire , Gold rush and Magic star. 12 am till 11 am

    Steak and Eggs $3.29
    at Arizona Charlie's Decatur . 24/7

    The most famous of dining options in Las Vegas are the Buffets . for a set price you can eat and drink as much as you want from the food selection available . Again you can choose from the Bargain to the expensive. don,t expect to find a small selection of food , Most buffets offer a huge choice of dishes. The Cravings Buffet in the Mirage for Example has many different stations from around the world , where food can also be cooked to order. Nearly all the Strip casinos have a buffet and it is unlikely you are either going to feel short changed or not find something you enjoy at nearly all of them. From the many many reviews i have read ( and of course the ones i have been too ) a few buffets come up time and time again with top marks. they are
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    • BillTrac
    • By BillTrac 20th May 09, 12:08 PM
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    BillTrac
    As we are off on Saturday armed with digi and dvd camcorder I will sign up to Flicker on our return(cant be doing with Facebook)

    On a lesser note, does anyone have any idea of the procedure for parking at IP? I know its free, but do you check in then park, or park then check in?
    • ferf1223
    • By ferf1223 20th May 09, 12:21 PM
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    As we are off on Saturday armed with digi and dvd camcorder I will sign up to Flicker on our return(cant be doing with Facebook)

    On a lesser note, does anyone have any idea of the procedure for parking at IP? I know its free, but do you check in then park, or park then check in?
    Originally posted by BillTrac
    Valet park (free, but tip on pick up) and then check in. You may find subsequently that self-park is more to your liking, but upon arrival with cases, etc...valet is really the way to go. Both valet and self-park are free for everyone (not just guests)...though at busy times valet may only accept guests...and on occasion we've seen some hotels (Harrah's comes to mind) monitoring self-park too.
  • Cand
    Loving the flicker page (just signed up) there is some fab pics on there well done Stew great idea!
    • ferf1223
    • By ferf1223 20th May 09, 12:46 PM
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    ferf1223
    As we are off on Saturday armed with digi and dvd camcorder I will sign up to Flicker on our return(cant be doing with Facebook)

    On a lesser note, does anyone have any idea of the procedure for parking at IP? I know its free, but do you check in then park, or park then check in?
    Originally posted by BillTrac
    Just in case it helps - here's a map of the IP property.

    http://www.imperialpalace.com/images/non_image_assets/ILV_imperial_palace_property_map.pdf

    You can see that dropping the car at valet will mean a very short walk to check in at the front desk...while self parking, will be a very loooong haul with the cases.
    • luci
    • By luci 20th May 09, 12:55 PM
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    OK, OK I've signed up to Flickr. What a faffing about creating a new email address, that I didn't want or need, and then it wouldn't accept any of the user names I tried. My feeble brain can't remember any more log in details or email addresses so I'm bound to forget what I signed up with.

    My Flickr user name is luci MSE in case I forget.
    • ferf1223
    • By ferf1223 20th May 09, 1:11 PM
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    pretty user friendly so far, this Flickr...a bit annoying to have to upload to my account and then to the group (and then only 6 at a time) but not too bad...have put our Encore room photos there.
  • dushking
    Our Second Trip to Vegas!
    Hi guys,

    First I would like to say that we are a huge loyal readers of this forum and this is our first big post here, yey! and also like to thank all of you for sharing your experiences and offers you have found, it has been of great help. So far we have been able to find great deals for our holiday to Vegas this July.

    This is our second trip to Vegas from the UK, our first time was in December 2007 for only 3 days/4 nights over Christmas. We stayed at the MGM, and it filled all my expectations for my first time in Vegas. The hotel was huge, and there were a lot of things to do, the rooms were clean and big. I now know we didn't have a great view - it was facing Hooters and the airport- but I was still impressed, I also didn't know the $20 trick back then doh! However, the service was always good and the food halls + entertainment were amazing. Unfortunately as we went in December it was cold...very cold, so we didn't get to try out the pool area.

    I kinda regret it now, as I know MGM has great pools, unfortunately I have no plans in repeating hotels (even now that MGM has that great offer with the buffet and extras included ) I think if you can only afford Vegas a few nights every year or two, at least you have to pick a different hotel everytime!

    - This time around we booked 6 nights at Mirage using the code 35VOLCANO for just $480 including taxes. Which i think is a great rate, having in mind i had a full weekend included.

    We were
    really looking for something in the middle part of the strip, and after comparing prices with TI, Planet Hollywood and Monte Carlo...i think Mirage was the best option for a middle range tariff with a nice pool and good location. I would loved to stay at the Bellagio, Venitian, or Wynn but i think we need to save a little more for those hotels.

    - We booked a one way flight from LAX to Vegas with Southwest Airlines for $59 each - I think is the cheapest airline in the US!

    - We bought 2 tickets to KA at MGM for $146 dollars using one of the offers posted in this forum. We saved more than a $100 dollars on that one!...waiting to find good prices for O at the Bellagio is my new mission.

    - Planning to buy Phanton of the Opera tixs with TravelZoo offers too

    Last time we managed to get tickets for Copperfield via tix4tonight, (the magic tricks were quite good) but it was completely impossible to get tickets for any of the Cirque du Soleil (even in December!!). So this time i am going prepared and with tickets already in hand, possibly for two of their shows. Tix4tonight was great for many other shows and we were lucky as they were very close to the MGM. The Knight Tournament in Excalibur was cheap ($25 or so) and fun, be aware that the food is crap, just go for the show!

    We ate at Treasure Island's buffet and was very good. MGM's not so much. This time we are planning to go for buffets at Bellagio, Planet, Wynn and of course at the Mirage.

    Is incredible how much there is to do on the Strip, you think 3 or 4 days would be more than enough to tour one street up and down. But I was really struggling with time, i found out that you can spend a whole day easily in one hotel and not get bored.
    There is so much going on everywhere that it can be overwhelming, so for first timers prepare to be chilled and not to try to do everything in one day, it can be very tiring...specially if you walk the distances can be deceiving, lol.



    This time we booked 6 nights 5 days, and hopefully i can visit the hotels we didn't last time. I planned on taking a tour to the Grand Canyon, but i think this will have to wait till next time, as i think a longer stay in Vegas is needed, i don't want to feel rushed . So next time i would at least book 10 days in Vegas and leave enough time for the grand canyon.

    I think Vegas is such a great destination, and compared to Los Angeles (my regular combination) is so much cheaper and easy to get around. I love Los Angeles, but there is too much going on in that city, you can't relax, but in Vegas you can...and is sooo pretty at night.

    Oh yeah... and we booked our flight 3 months ago with Virgin Atlantic from Heathrow to LAX at 360 return!! That is cheapest you can get for a summer tariff.

    *Our full trip will include Los Angeles ( 7nights), San Francisco (1 day trip), Vegas (6 nights) and San Diego (5 nights - going for ComicCon International)

    Alex and Jen
    going to US on July....dollars anyone??
  • Cand
    OK, OK I've signed up to Flickr. What a faffing about creating a new email address, that I didn't want or need, and then it wouldn't accept any of the user names I tried. My feeble brain can't remember any more log in details or email addresses so I'm bound to forget what I signed up with.

    My Flickr user name is luci MSE in case I forget.
    Originally posted by luci
    Glad I wasnt the only one who found it a faff! It took me ages but defo worth it in the end. I will try and add some pics at the weekend when I get a min.
  • Christa1
    Funkyfin: We are going the other way. LV to Yosemite and had planned just to hit the main route for around an 8 hr journey, the road via DV looked really like a local road and we thought would take much longer, can you let me know what yopu think from your journey?
    • ferf1223
    • By ferf1223 20th May 09, 4:27 PM
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    Shame the dining credit is restricted to fine dining (at least it would be a shame for us!)


    https://reservations.mgmmirage.com/bookingengine.aspx?host=promo&pid=001&code=MKT254


    Book by May 29.


    Stay at the AAA 4-Diamond MGM Grand Las Vegas for $62-$72 per night. That's 20% off regular rates, and this deal includes more than $75 in extras (per stay):
    • $50 fine dining credit to experience a restaurant from one of the many celebrity chefs that call MGM Grand their home, including Tom Colicchio, Michael Mina and Joel Robuchon
    • $25 in free slot play
    • Two free passes to Studio 54 or Tabu, MGM Grand's nightclubs
    • 25% OFF Grand Spa services, including massages and facials
    This offer is available for the following dates:
    • $62 ... July 26-30
    • $72 ... June 29, 30; July 1, 12-15, 20; Aug. 9-13, 20
    • Other surrounding dates are slightly more
  • bounty99
    trip report - stayed at caesars palace - 6th to 12 may 2009 7 days and 6 nights
    day one-6th may

    got off the plane and entered McCarran airport, we were giddy with excitement at finally arriving and seeing the sea of slot machines ahead of us! we walked fast and kept saying to each other 'Vegas baby Vegas'.
    We got our luggage and went to catch the shuttle, first thing that hit us was the heat as soon as we stepped outside and boy was it a welcome pleasure! We bought the shuttle tickets and went to sit in the shuttle, waited for around 10 minutes and we were on our way. Arrived at Caesars and were once again giddy with excitement but now multiplied by 1000! We proceeded to the check-in desk area whilst our eyes darted to the left and to the right just wanting to soak up everything we saw, and it hit us - WE'RE IN LAS VEGAS! our first time here!
    There were no lines at check-in so we proceeded to the next available desk, while Bal was going through the procedure of showing his ID and credit card i was pondering the idea of asking for a complimentary upgrade, shall i or shall i not? Having read on certain forums that the classic room was an utter disappointment i just had to bite the bullet and ask and who cares if she said no, thats the worst that could happen in this situation, so i asked the lady if there were any complimentary upgrades available and dammit i forgot to stick a $20 bill in my hand to show her i was willing to tip for the favour! Now what will our chances be at scoring an upgrade?! She said she'l have a look on the computer if anything was available and sure enough she spoke those beautiful words 'i have upgraded your room' result! We were in the Forum Tower in Room 5229, it was newly refurbished and we were so happy with it! The room was big, bright and airy, we had a walk-in shower, a tv in the bathroom mirror and the loo was separate. The view outside the window was of the car park, Rio was in the background as were the mountains. The bed was huge and big, i had to jump on it to get on it and it was so comfy! Only downside was there was no hairdryer, oh well who cares, we got an upgrade, whoo hoo!
    We freshened up and went downstairs, first things first, we went to make our Total Reward cards, made them, and as an incentive they gave us 2 $20 off vouchers at Augustus Cafe or Cafe Lago.
    We decided to play roulette first, i took out my crisp $10 bill put it on the table and in return i was given 10 $1 chips, i knew where i wanted these to go, on 9 Red, dealer spinned the wheel and whaddya know, i lost!
    oh well, at least i had my first ever roulette experience! i went to stand by Bal who was still playing and this is when i first encountered a cocktail waitress, 'cocktails', i was quick to pipe up and ask for a colorado bulldog, yay! she came back in less than 5 mins, i tipped her $1 and had my first Vegas drink and boy was it strong!
    After Bal was done with roulette we decided to play 3 card poker, i love this game, cos we play it here in london casinos and we had 3 aces in one hand and won quite a few pounds, so this game i love! i go in with $50 and i dont do so good, so i put in another $100 or so and i still dont do so good, to the point where iv used up my gambling allowance for the day! Bal's doing ok, just breaking even but we move away from the table down in monetary terms, we decide to go eat at cheesecake factory and we're loving the sky and statues, once in cheesecake, bal orders a chicken burger and i order a raspberry truffle cheesecake, both are delicious but so filling we were hardly able to finish off, i really regret it now, could do with eating something as yummy as that right now!
    after cheesecake factory we decide to go Bellagio as its only next door so we're on our way, till we pass another 3 card poker table at Caesars and bal says to me 'lets play just one hand, come' im umming and aahing but what the hell, lets do it! so we sit down, and the cards arent in our favour at all, at this point i know this aint gonna be a hit and run, Bal gets a couple of pairs, nothing major, next round Bal decides to put quite a few chips on pair plus, picks the cards up one behind the other, we look at the first one and its a Queen, not bad, could do worse, i'm waiting to look at the next card til he decides to put them on play with $10 on top! 'but you havent looked at the other two cards!' i say...he's all cool,calm and collected and all i know is if dealer beats us thats all the money in his pocket to the casino! Dealer flips over her cards, iv forgotten if she qualifies or not...then she flips over our cards, one - by - one, boy the anticipation is killing me! ok so we knew the first one was a Queen, next card is also a Queen! Wow! ok so at least we made monies on pair plus, then we see the next card, its a QUEEN!!! We both shout out YES! and start laughing like psychos!!!! dealer congratulates us and pushes the $100 black chips towards us, $700 we made in that one hand! thats why i love this game! you just dont know what hands you're gonna be dealt! We make our way to the cashiers cage and Bal hands her the chips to cash up and she asks for my ID, but i mention that its Bal whose cashing them in not me but she says as i look under 21 she will need to see my ID! Not only do we win $700 but we also get compliments, i'm loving Vegas already!
    so we make our way over to Bellagio and stop at the fountains, i couldnt really understand what the fuss was about before i saw them in person but now i do. The fountains were dancing to pink panther music and it just looked absolutely beautiful, im so envious of those ducks that swim around in there.
    After the fountain show was over we went into the bellagio casino, made our players card and were given $10 free slot play as an incentive, we sat down at the first slot machine, followed the instructions on how to activate the free play and off we went with the button pressing, neither one of us understanding what this that or the other meant, even though bal was up by $10, funny thing what bal kept doing was everytime he was up he would cash out his voucher, play again, cash out voucher again, so funny to watch him do that and i was now down to $0 in my free slot play! boy i really hope my luck doesnt run like this all week! Bal cashed in the vouchers and we went to play more 3 card poker at bellagio, as soon as we sat down i got bad vibes and so did bal, no one was happy on the table, the guy sitting next to bal didnt get a single run of any good cards, the people sitting to my right looked glazed and robotic, it kinda looked like they were chasing the money. We decided to leave after a few rubbishy hands and unfortunately left Bellagio feeling kinda deflated...oh well...uh oh i looked at the time and it was 01.15am, we had to be awake for 5am as we were going on our Grand Canyon tour, so we went back to Caesars and straight to our room for our forty winks.


    day 2 will follow shortly
    • ferf1223
    • By ferf1223 20th May 09, 4:41 PM
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    Only downside was there was no hairdryer, oh well who cares, we got an upgrade, whoo hoo!
    Originally posted by bounty99
    Good job on the upgrade and I'm really enjoying your report...I'm hoping that you called housekeeping about the hairdryer though as all rooms in Vegas should have them (though sometimes they stash them in a drawer in the bathroom).
    • wdyw
    • By wdyw 20th May 09, 4:53 PM
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    Funkyfin: We are going the other way. LV to Yosemite and had planned just to hit the main route for around an 8 hr journey, the road via DV looked really like a local road and we thought would take much longer, can you let me know what yopu think from your journey?
    Originally posted by Christa1
    The road is fine through DV. The big decision you have to make is which side of the mountains you wish to go up. On the east side, through DV and then up past Bishop you can stop off at Mammoth before hitting yosemite, or if you go the longer route via Bakersfield and up the west side you get a chance to stop off at Sequoia or Kings NP.
  • bounty99
    Good job on the upgrade and I'm really enjoying your report...I'm hoping that you called housekeeping about the hairdryer though as all rooms in Vegas should have them (though sometimes they stash them in a drawer in the bathroom).
    Originally posted by ferf1223
    thanks, i didnt call housekeeping as it wasnt a major issue, i only wanted to use it once when i wanted to straighten my hair, which is wen i realised we didnt have one, looked everywhere but no luck, im sure the occupants before us nabbed it!
    • stoneman
    • By stoneman 20th May 09, 4:57 PM
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    bounty99, I have never read a T/R where anyone sounded as totally thrilled as you were. Now you've done it, all of your worldly goods will have to be sold so that you can go back again and again and again. You will see on here lots and lots of people that go to Vgas more than once a year, we go at least 4, and wouldn't think of going anywhere else.
    The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.
  • bounty99
    bounty99, I have never read a T/R where anyone sounded as totally thrilled as you were. Now you've done it, all of your worldly goods will have to be sold so that you can go back again and again and again. You will see on here lots and lots of people that go to Vgas more than once a year, we go at least 4, and wouldn't think of going anywhere else.
    Originally posted by stoneman
    yep looks like iv got the vegas bug now, we're definitley going to return and if i have to sell my worldly possessions then thats exactly what i'l do!
    • BillTrac
    • By BillTrac 20th May 09, 5:21 PM
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    ferf,

    thanks very much for the map

    also,what is a usual tip for the valet?
    • ferf1223
    • By ferf1223 20th May 09, 5:34 PM
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    ferf,

    thanks very much for the map

    also,what is a usual tip for the valet?
    Originally posted by BillTrac
    We normally tip $2-$3 on picking up the car...but I know some people only tip $1...some tip more, but I think $2-3 is pretty much average.
    • stoneman
    • By stoneman 20th May 09, 5:49 PM
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    and if i have to sell my worldly possessions then thats exactly what i'l do!
    Originally posted by bounty99
    That's what I like to hear, the good old British spirit
    The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.
    • funkyfin2000
    • By funkyfin2000 20th May 09, 7:40 PM
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    The road is fine through DV. The big decision you have to make is which side of the mountains you wish to go up. On the east side, through DV and then up past Bishop you can stop off at Mammoth before hitting yosemite, or if you go the longer route via Bakersfield and up the west side you get a chance to stop off at Sequoia or Kings NP.
    Originally posted by wdyw
    wdyw is right! The Death Valley road is fine!

    Also the main road that goes through lone pine on the other side is fine. If you check the map we went south and over to Kernville and Lake Isabella, touching on Kings Canyon/Sequioas!

    Any more info, let me know

    Rich
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