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    • spinningsheep
    • By spinningsheep 19th Jan 13, 4:34 PM
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    Economy Energy, who are they?
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    • 19th Jan 13, 4:34 PM
    Economy Energy, who are they? 19th Jan 13 at 4:34 PM
    Who are these people? Never heard of them, had a rep stop me in the street a few days back and I gather they only offer prepay and the rep told me THEY supply the energy, nobody is behind them like Sainsburys Energy and BG for eg, but their website seems vague!

    http://www.economyenergy.co.uk/index.html
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    • jackie1988
    • By jackie1988 1st May 17, 9:57 AM
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    jackie1988
    Joined Economy Energy few months ago, they said we would save money wish was a lie.
    Change over thinking it was a good deal as being a single mum. Our Gas meter was broken they said they be out within 3 hrs which was 5 hrs late , having a child under 5 i found this disgusting. They had to reset and put a new meter in but only leaving me with £13:00 pound on the gas , i did not have a card to top up...... I had to bath my daughter at my mates and have food cooked else where. Phoned them up about all the money was put on ,which was took off " There's not much we can do as we are moving back to you're suppler"
    Am moving back to my old suppler

    When the guy come out i truly think he didn't do anything as he should of known the meter was a right off , Economy Energy just takes people money not caring about people health

    i would not wish this on any one eles , so please do not join
    • kialore
    • By kialore 24th May 17, 7:16 PM
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    Just had a call from this company, she was talking about the savings I could get, and I was waiting for the "would you like to sign up" question when all of a sudden she starts going on about having so many days to change my mind after the welcome pack arrives and alarm bells start ringing - as far as i'm aware I haven't agreed to switch at this point, and I say that to her, she then keeps going on about the saving and the cancelation time and I decided that I really didn't like where this was going, so I said I don't want to carry on with this I've changed my mind, she then says she cant understand why when I can save xx amount per year and I said the timing is wrong (i'm going away next week) this isn't convenient and I want it cancelled (even tho I didn't agree to switch) she kept going on about the saving and I could have it all sorted before I go away bla bla bla and talking over me at which point I said your being very pushy and I want it cancelled. After a few moments of this with me repeating that she is being pushy and I want it cancelled (getting firmer and louder the more she tried to talk over me) she finally said that she had done it then said goodbye and hung up. I'm now waiting to see if I get anything further from them - when I called the number back it was just an answer phone message but it did have the option of leaving my name and number if I wanted to be removed from their list
    • Lindagreenacre
    • By Lindagreenacre 2nd Jun 17, 8:17 PM
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    Lindagreenacre
    Useless company
    We switched to Economy Energy as a result of a search on a comparison site, which showed that Economy Energy would save us money. That still has to be proved. However, I wish that we had never moved. It has been a complete disaster. We signed up on 25 Nov. 2016 and went "live" on 22 Dec. They do not have a website that is fit for purpose. You cannot see your account and all it has is promises of what is to come. Phone calls are not picked up, emails receive auto reply, but often no actual reply. There are promises that the website is being tested and would be up and running soon. Months later, no improvement. We received a statement for our electricity usage (estimated), but they had not included one of the direct debit payments. We received the gas statement several months later. I had been telling them that they had only started taking payments in February - not soon enough. We then got an email in May to say that they would take an extra payment on 31 May. They then took the regular monthly payment one day later on 1 June. We still have no website of any use, no idea what is happening and it is a complete shambles. Avoid at all costs if you value your sanity. We will jump ship at the earliest opportunity.
    • kieran1985
    • By kieran1985 13th Jan 18, 6:11 PM
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    kieran1985
    Their website still shows no signs of ever being finished.

    Jokers.
    • MrTricky
    • By MrTricky 26th Jul 18, 1:06 AM
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    MrTricky
    I was with economy energy and tried to switch to another company a week or too ago. I since found out EE have objected to the switch, I am not sure why, I have heard nothing from EE about it.
    According to my latest statement I still owe them about £82 however they set the direct debit payments and if I owe them money they should adjust accordingly or just take what I owe one switching.
    I have heard nothing from them about it, granted I only find out about the problem yesterday when I read an email from the supplier I hope to switch to telling me about EE's objection, it is up to me to find out why apparently.
    I have switched many times, every year really and never had this problem.
    I am not happy about it.
    • Swinball
    • By Swinball 28th Aug 18, 1:48 PM
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    Swinball
    Do not go with economy energy
    Terrible service and customer service all round. Received a phone call after a year of being with economy energy stating we had not made a payment for over 6 months. After asking how this was possible it turned out they had deleted our direct debit details without realising resulting in £107 payment being due.
    I was able to arrange payments to spread over the next 6 months by increasing the monthly amount in order to clear the extra owed.
    After this I received a phone call every couple of days asking me to pay amount in full. After the 5th phone call I asked to speak to the manager, I was told he did not speak on the phone and the only resolution was to pay the amount we owed.
    Obviously I wasn’t happy with this service so refused and instead decided to email the complaints department. This was over a month ago and I have still not received any sort of response apart from the harassing phone calls have continued. Final attempt was via social media complaint and still nothing.
    Would urge anyone considering selecting economy energy as their supplier to think again. Worst customer service I have ever dealt with.
    • andy poulton
    • By andy poulton 28th Aug 18, 7:34 PM
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    andy poulton
    What on earth is going on at ee
    What on earth is going on at EE.

    So many posts on TrustPilot like mine.
    I am really worried now.
    Especially the random increase in the direct debits for NO reason and when challeged you get so much misinformation/rubbish.
    Also told I CANNOT change the direct debit??
    :-
    I was about to write to the CEO [see CEO website got all the details]
    However, I am just staying quiet and pay when bills are due.

    I have spent ages on the phone and chat lines trying to sort out errors.
    1] Readings for electricity not being saved.
    2] Advised no bills for first 3 months then quarterly.
    3] Bill received for electricity only after a month. Estimated.
    4] Advised will get the gas shortly after.
    5] Got notified a new direct debit for gas 35% higher.
    6] Estimated yet I am still £72 in credit for gas.
    7] Advised new DDR was due to high usage, cold snap [EH! must have missed that] higher than expected bills. Old supplier informed them of my higher than normal usage
    8] All completely rubbish and made up.
    9] Advised to forget this???
    10 ] Advised that EE or I CANNOT CHANGE direct debit. It HAS to stay as it is
    10] Advised to wait until bills re produced 25th September.
    11] Advised that these will be produced 3 months after I joined as normal.
    I am still HUGELY in credit after all this so cancelled DR's until it catches up pay up right away if in debit, then ask for them to be reinstated.
    I have now GIVEN UP chats and calls to them as they make it up waste time and do not do anything.
    Last edited by andy poulton; 28-08-2018 at 7:38 PM.
    • timdf911
    • By timdf911 16th Sep 18, 4:38 PM
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    timdf911
    are Economy Energy going bust ?
    I hope not as an ex customer they owe me nearly £800 but they seem to be completely unresponsive to any form of communication apart from TrustPilot - but even then only get stock replies and no real response / resolution.

    They've also shut down their FaceBook page most likely due to all the complaints they were getting.

    I switched to EE just under 2 years ago based on a recommendation from MSE, what a mistake they are truly hopeless when it comes to accurate billing (despite submitting readings each month).
    I suspect they got my gas and elec direct debits switched as my gas was £800 in credit but elec was £800 in debit.
    They had no way of applying my gas credit to my elec so I had to pay the £800 elec debit.
    I paid the £50 early termination fee and switched to Bulb.
    They have created my final gas bill showing I'm £768.47 in credit but it seems next to impossible to get them to refund.

    The whole situation stinks - steer well clear of EE
    Last edited by timdf911; 16-09-2018 at 4:42 PM. Reason: fb closure
    • Sterlingtimes
    • By Sterlingtimes 16th Sep 18, 4:55 PM
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    Sterlingtimes
    My opinion is that normal methods of communication with Economy Energy will not work. The front office is inconsistent with its responses indicating that its people are either not suitably trained or they are responding to the hour-to-hour whims of their managers.

    For my part, I have reached an impasse with its normal customer services frontline operation who refuse to escalate to more senior personnel. I have gone down a formal complaints route, but I am pursuring other measures to seek redress.
    Solar installed 21 November 2014 > Centre of England > 3,780 Wp > 14 *270 Watt Trina panels > 14 * Enphase micro-inverters > managed by Enlighten Envoy Hub > 19° west of south > 35° pitch > tree shading to east > iBoost > Wattson Anywhere monitoring > Schneider Electric (Drayton) MiGenie smart thermostat.
    • timdf911
    • By timdf911 16th Sep 18, 8:06 PM
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    Hi Sterlingtimes

    would you sharing which formal complaint route you've gone down ?

    I'm thinking of using the Resolver website because as you say normal channels just don't work.
    Regards Tim
    • FullForce
    • By FullForce 16th Sep 18, 8:18 PM
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    Hi Sterlingtimes

    would you sharing which formal complaint route you've gone down ?

    I'm thinking of using the Resolver website because as you say normal channels just don't work.
    Regards Tim
    Originally posted by timdf911
    Here is the Economy Energy complaint procedure
    https://www.economyenergy.co.uk/customers/make-a-complaint/

    It is, in the first instance, the only procedure you should follow.

    Resolver is simply an agent that will take the information you supply and then follow this same procedure, and report back as and when a response from the supplier is received by them.
    They will also keep a timetable, so that you are aware when you should consider escalation.
    If you are not good at formulating a complaint, resolver have some templates to assist you.
    If you are not good at keeping records of what you have actually complained about and when, and the responses reveived, if any, Resolver may be of assistence should it ultimately be necessary to take the matter to the ombudsman, as Resolver makes the history available to you online. i.e. all in one place

    Some find Resolver useful; others find it simply a third party that causes additional delays in resolving your complaint against the supplier.
    Last edited by FullForce; 16-09-2018 at 8:20 PM.
    • timdf911
    • By timdf911 16th Sep 18, 8:22 PM
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    timdf911
    Thanks Fullforce

    I think I'll go down the resolver route for sake of convenience.

    Regards Tim
    • Sterlingtimes
    • By Sterlingtimes 16th Sep 18, 8:29 PM
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    Sterlingtimes
    Hi Sterlingtimes

    would you sharing which formal complaint route you've gone down ?

    I'm thinking of using the Resolver website because as you say normal channels just don't work.
    Regards Tim
    Originally posted by timdf911
    Hello Tim

    I am following the Economy Energy's complaint process here:

    https://www.economyenergy.co.uk/customers/make-a-complaint/

    I sent my complaint by email with the necessary evidence in the form of attachments. Mindful that Economy Energy may deny the email communication at a later date, I printed out the email and sent it to Economy Energy by tracked Royal Mail Special Delivery.

    Economy has 10 working days to respond. Nothing heard as yet.
    Solar installed 21 November 2014 > Centre of England > 3,780 Wp > 14 *270 Watt Trina panels > 14 * Enphase micro-inverters > managed by Enlighten Envoy Hub > 19° west of south > 35° pitch > tree shading to east > iBoost > Wattson Anywhere monitoring > Schneider Electric (Drayton) MiGenie smart thermostat.
    • Sterlingtimes
    • By Sterlingtimes 16th Sep 18, 8:41 PM
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    Sterlingtimes
    It is, in the first instance, the only procedure you should follow.
    Originally posted by FullForce
    If Economy Energy happened to be a normal good business, I would follow the complaints' procedure only, however, my confidence in Economy Energy to communicate correctly is very low. Already, MSE has stepped in with a news article that will help those seeking redress. I do wish the Daily Mail would pick this up.

    I would expect Economy Energy to write back to me accepting that the contract into which we entered is binding upon Economy Energy and that it will rescind the notice that it provided of the 88% unit price increase in gas and 30% unit price increase in electricity.
    Solar installed 21 November 2014 > Centre of England > 3,780 Wp > 14 *270 Watt Trina panels > 14 * Enphase micro-inverters > managed by Enlighten Envoy Hub > 19° west of south > 35° pitch > tree shading to east > iBoost > Wattson Anywhere monitoring > Schneider Electric (Drayton) MiGenie smart thermostat.
    • FullForce
    • By FullForce 16th Sep 18, 8:52 PM
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    FullForce
    Hello Tim

    I am following the Economy Energy's complaint process here:

    https://www.economyenergy.co.uk/customers/make-a-complaint/

    I sent my complaint by email with the necessary evidence in the form of attachments. Mindful that Economy Energy may deny the email communication at a later date, I printed out the email and sent it to Economy Energy by tracked Royal Mail Special Delivery.

    Economy has 10 working days to respond. Nothing heard as yet.
    Originally posted by Sterlingtimes
    I'm confused

    2 days ago you said you would not follow this procedure
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=74787979&postcount=129

    You mention the complaint still has 5 days to run, and the ombudsman is interested already.

    You also mention other ways to pursue the complaint.


    I will advise you that the ombudsman will NOT investigate any complaint unless
    1. You have followed the suppliers compliant procedure
    and
    2. You have a deadlock letter or at least 8 weeks have passed since you first contacted the supplier with regards the complaint

    If the supplier gives you the impression they have given you a final answer, then request a deadlock letter, or at least somethging in writing that confirms they have come to the end of the road as far as offering you a resolution.

    As you only created the thead the above linked post is in on 6th of this month, it would seem you have not even reached the stage of escalating the matter to stage 2 of the supplier's complaint procedure.
    Last edited by FullForce; 16-09-2018 at 8:56 PM.
    • Sterlingtimes
    • By Sterlingtimes 16th Sep 18, 9:11 PM
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    Sterlingtimes
    I'm confused
    2 days ago you said you would not follow this procedure
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=74787979&postcount=129
    Originally posted by FullForce
    For clarification:

    I said that I had exhausted communication with the front office who refused to escalate. I did instigate the complaints' process. Because this is a weekend, there are still five working days to run. I am waiting for Economy to respond. Agreed that I have not come to stage 2 as yet.
    Last edited by Sterlingtimes; 16-09-2018 at 9:14 PM.
    Solar installed 21 November 2014 > Centre of England > 3,780 Wp > 14 *270 Watt Trina panels > 14 * Enphase micro-inverters > managed by Enlighten Envoy Hub > 19° west of south > 35° pitch > tree shading to east > iBoost > Wattson Anywhere monitoring > Schneider Electric (Drayton) MiGenie smart thermostat.
    • FullForce
    • By FullForce 16th Sep 18, 9:18 PM
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    FullForce
    For clarification:

    I said that I had exhausted communication with the front office who refused to escalate.
    I did instigate the complaints' process. Because this is a weekend, there are still five working days to run. I am waiting for Economy to respond. Agreed that I have not come to stage 2 as yet.
    Originally posted by Sterlingtimes
    5 working days until what? Escalate to stage 2 of their compliant process?

    You don't need the permission of the supplier to request escalation. I suspect they will not refuse your request if appropriate at the appropraite time. If they do, and it's in writing, I suspect you could take that as a "final response". But they will not consider escatation until at least 10 working days have passed since you initially raised the complaint with them.

    It could be another 7 weeks before the ombudsman will accept this complaint ... and many more months before they then actually investigate it.

    As you have presumably not been charged the higher rates yet, the supplier is not in breach of their contract as you allege.

    Perhaps the situation will become clearer to you before you are able to escalate this matter to the ombudsman, and certainly before thge ombudsman actuually investigate it.
    As I understand it, the supplier has already confirmed to MSE that they will not charge increased prices Uduring the fixed period) if you were informed in writing when you joined that the prices were fixed.
    Last edited by FullForce; 16-09-2018 at 9:23 PM.
    • Sterlingtimes
    • By Sterlingtimes 16th Sep 18, 9:48 PM
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    Sterlingtimes
    As you have presumably not been charged the higher rates yet, the supplier is not in breach of their contract as you allege.
    Originally posted by FullForce
    Thank you, Full Force. I think we look at matters a little differently.

    I regard the notice itself as a breach because it tells me that my fixed term contract with fixed price guarantee will become a variable price contract from 7 October and that my annual price will increase by an estimated £600. The contract is varied without my agreement from the point of the notice. I sought to have the notice set-aside but the front office refused. I had a £1,300 contract but from the point of the notice, I have a £1,900 contract (figures approximate).
    Last edited by Sterlingtimes; 16-09-2018 at 9:50 PM.
    Solar installed 21 November 2014 > Centre of England > 3,780 Wp > 14 *270 Watt Trina panels > 14 * Enphase micro-inverters > managed by Enlighten Envoy Hub > 19° west of south > 35° pitch > tree shading to east > iBoost > Wattson Anywhere monitoring > Schneider Electric (Drayton) MiGenie smart thermostat.
    • FullForce
    • By FullForce 16th Sep 18, 10:07 PM
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    FullForce
    Thank you, Full Force. I think we look at matters a little differently.

    I regard the notice itself as a breach because it tells me that my fixed term contract with fixed price guarantee will become a variable price contract from 7 October and that my annual price will increase by an estimated £600. The contract is varied without my agreement from the point of the notice. I sought to have the notice set-aside but the front office refused. I had a £1,300 contract but from the point of the notice, I have a £1,900 contract (figures approximate).
    Originally posted by Sterlingtimes
    According to your profile, you work within the legal profession.

    Perhaps you could ask one of your colleagues who went to law school what the law actually is
    • Sterlingtimes
    • By Sterlingtimes 17th Sep 18, 9:06 AM
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    Sterlingtimes
    According to your profile, you work within the legal profession.
    Originally posted by FullForce
    This is incorrect.
    Solar installed 21 November 2014 > Centre of England > 3,780 Wp > 14 *270 Watt Trina panels > 14 * Enphase micro-inverters > managed by Enlighten Envoy Hub > 19° west of south > 35° pitch > tree shading to east > iBoost > Wattson Anywhere monitoring > Schneider Electric (Drayton) MiGenie smart thermostat.
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