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    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 29th Dec 18, 7:41 AM
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    Frump to Fab 2019 - Here We Go Again
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    • 29th Dec 18, 7:41 AM
    Frump to Fab 2019 - Here We Go Again 29th Dec 18 at 7:41 AM
    Good Morning Lovely Ladies (And Gents - if are are reading along).

    Are you ready to start the New Year with a sparkle in your eye and a spring in your footsteps or are you feeling a little jaded, a little worse for wear, a tad sad and neglected.

    Do you feel invisible. Does the face that stares back at you from the mirror seem like a stranger to you.

    Just who is that tired old lady looking back out at you.

    In short, have you become a Frump!!!

    Well fret ye not, salvation is at hand.

    Join our merry gang and make this the year you transform yourself.

    Ditch the Frump and become the Fabulous Woman you know you can be.

    And have some fun along the way.

    The Story So Far.......

    I have been looking back and I was astonished to discover that the First Frump to Fab thread began in 2011. Wow.

    Tempus Fugit and all that.

    Am I fabulous yet. Almost.

    How did it all begin.

    Well one day my son took a photo of me in an unguarded moment. I took one look and burst into tears. Who was that old hag, that strange woman who looked like a bag lady. That couldn't be me. So I ran upstairs and took a good hard look in a full length mirror.

    Yes, dear reader, it was me.

    I stopped snivelling and faced the truth. I was a mess. I resolved then and there to do something about it. I didn't know what that something was because at the time I was caring for my terminally ill husband and staring bankruptcy in the face.

    I was exhausted, I looked terrible and if I'm honest, I felt desperate. I didn't know what I was going to do, or where to begin so I started the first Frump to Fab thread as a diary to spur me on and keep me motivated.

    And the rest is history.

    My life is truly unrecognisable from that day. And I am not the same woman.

    I look better, feel better, my finances are better. I AM better.

    Not quite Goddess standard yet but getting there and working towards being fabulous and having a fabulous life.

    So......if you want to "Change Your Stars" then join our merry gang.

    Let's make 2019 the best one yet.

    And......more Importantly, let's have some fun along the way.

    One Golden Rule Please.

    Be kind to one another.

    Please do not be harsh or judgemental to others. None of us is perfect. It doesn't matter how we became Frumps what matters is how we are going to reclaim our looks, our energy, our joire de vie.

    The past is the past and why we became Frumps is no longer relevant. It doesn't matter how we got here, what matters is how we move forward.

    We are all here because we want to make things better. We want to look attractive, some of us might want to improve our health and fitness. All of us on here aspire to being the best we can be. So let's support each other.

    For the Newbies, the Lurkers and as a refresher course for our regular members ......

    I have posted the new thread earlier this year to give us some time to reflect and decide exactly what we want to achieve next year. Time to set goals, time for some strategic planning.

    Over the next few days, in true MSE fashion, myself and our regulars will be talking about some simple easy and FREE steps you can make as you prepare to start as your journey to Fabdom.

    So Welcome Everyone.

    Let's get this show on the road.....

    Let's Rock!!!!

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    • savingfortomorrow
    • By savingfortomorrow 21st Aug 19, 8:59 PM
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    I've been recently been more active and seeing a difference on the availability of the clothes I can get closed. My "diet" of making better choices seems to be working. I'm trying to avoid calorie dense foods and coffees. A simple swop of the latte for an Americano with a dash of hot milk saves calories and trying to have soup with no more than 150 calories for lunch.
    It's a process to make better decisions daily and resist more temptation.
    • Elmo luvs you
    • By Elmo luvs you 22nd Aug 19, 7:46 AM
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    Hello ladies!

    I'm lurking a bit. I've been reading and keep meaning to reply but I keep getting distracted. Not sure where to begin
    I definitely agree about "grooming and posture"

    I don't watch TV, but I do read a lot and watch movies (in cinema and on Amazon Prime). I tend to avoid violent films, but with cinema membership I go often. BTW, most "children's" films are wasted on children
    I really enjoyed Dora the Explorer, and Good Boys was great too - a bit silly /rude humour but fun. Uglydolls was cheesy, predictable and I actually thought about getting up and leaving.

    Thought I'd share a few wee achievements in my defrumping quest since joining in here:
    Finally got back to swimming at the weekend. I realised last year I only went swimming when on holiday even though I *love* it and had been going regularly. Somehow lost the habit, so gonna start up again.
    Used Boots points to buy hair dye (mega roots and fading need to-be addressed) - which I'll use in a few days. Heading to haircut appointment now. I used to only go once a year, but I'm trying to go 2-3 times.
    I've taken some clothes that aren't suitable for /anyone/ to wear to H&m to-be recycled (take carrier bag of textiles/fabric from any brand in any condition, they recycle 'em and give you a voucher for 5 off 25 spend but I'll save the vouchers for my knitwear investments)
    And I've bought some clothes on eBay - I've decided to only buy 2nd hand except stuff like swimwear and undergarments. Finding a bikini/bras is tricky, I'm petite but busty.
    I love that you're all talking about coats and knitwear and I've been buying shorts, and short dresses. I'm going to visit family in the Caribbean in a couple weeks. My best friend/cousin had a baby. So excited to meet my tiny niece.

    And I'm amused about you all being 5'6 and complaining about maxi dress lengths when I'm Kylie Minogue height I do wonder why shops think everyone in a maxi is 6', but I guess it's easier to take up a dress than add to it.

    Ooh, also, I joined the "no buying Unnecessary Toiletries" thread, and have started to actually use more of my toiletries. I have so many samples I bought on eBay, and a beauty advent calendar I got in 2018. I'm now determined to use them up or give them away, figure out what works for me.

    Thank you so much for the boost to put myself first a little more
    Elmo xx


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    Frump to Fab 2019
    • crazy_cat_lady
    • By crazy_cat_lady 22nd Aug 19, 7:51 AM
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    Good luck with your meeting next week LL. It sounds perfect - just what you're looking for.
    I'm off out to work this morning for results day - first time I've been in since I had the brows and lashes done and discovered a tinted moisturiser... hopefully people will think I look less tired, even though I'm exhausted.
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    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 22nd Aug 19, 8:30 AM
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    Good morning lovely ladies

    Nice to hear from you Elmo. Sounds like you've got off to a cracking start. Glad you are enjoying the journey. It's truly amazing the difference just a little bit of Self care makes. Better, not just for our looks and appearance, but also our physical health and mental well being.

    SFT I think you are right, it's the simple swaps and small steps that, when all added up, make the difference. Nothing drastic, just being consistent so that over time the effects become accumulative.

    CCL sorry to hear you are so exhausted even if you no longer look it. Hope the day goes well and you don't tire yourself out even more.

    Well last night was lovely. My GS was a bit grumpy at first because he had been to nursery for the first time and I think he was just tired and overwhelmed. But I keep a toy box here for him so he was easily distracted by having different toys to play with and then he got his second wind.

    I can't believe how time has passed so quickly and he's now at nursery. More like a little boy than a baby. Time just flies.

    Well I've updated my CV ready for next week and decided what I'm going to wear for the meeting......a plain pale grey dress rather than a suit because the weather looks set to be hot next week. It has short sleeves so I think it looks suitably professional. If I do decide to return to work I will have to buy some suits because I got rid of mine years ago. Unfortunately they will probably have to be black......ah well corporate dress goes with the territory.

    I will be working with an agency rather than directly with a major builder and unlike many developers the agency doesnt provide uniforms. So I will just devise one myself.

    I watched a film the other night called The Children's Act staring Emma Thompson. She plays a high court judge specialising in child protection cases. Great film. Anyway as you may know barristers, judges etc have to wear sober clothing, usually black. I would like to know where the costume dept got her wardrobe from - her suits and dress and jacket combos were really nice and I loved her haircut, very sharp and crisp. Just the type of look I will be aiming for. I may only be doing casual hours but I still need to look professional and want to be taken seriously.

    I too am quite tired today so I'm going to have a quiet day, hopefully cut the grass now that DS2 fixed my lawn mower. I ran over the cable and cut it in two.
    • maman
    • By maman 22nd Aug 19, 9:08 AM
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    Glad to hear your family meal went well LL . Good idea to rest up today.

    Most children get tired with a change of routine like that but he'll find the transition to school easier in the long term.

    Congratulations on the job interest. . I did consultancy/advocacy work until last year and found that business dress has changed considerably over time. I used to wear suits too but separates are much more acceptable now. Dresses are very much a thing and often with little cardigans rather than a jacket. I sometimes wore jackets but over a tailored dress or coordinating skirt or trousers. I enjoyed choosing outfits like that because, not only does it present a professional image but, it made me feel confident knowing that I looked good.

    You're making great progress elmo. I definitely agree with the regular haircuts. The H&M deal sounds good. I must look in there to see if I fancy anything. I think maybe I should join the toiletries thread. I don't want to fill my new bathroom with stuff that will just sit there taking up space.

    Sorry to hear you're so tired cat. Is there anything you can change to give yourself a rest?

    It's a glorious day here. We're off for a 'health' walk.
    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 22nd Aug 19, 9:39 AM
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    Interesting Maman......I think you're right and corporate dress has changed. I think dress and jacket combos can look really nice and of course trousers are always practical, especially in winter. Although mud can be a problem.......

    Im not going to rush out and buy a whole new wardrobe, I'll see how the land lies and play it by ear. Get a feel of what other people wear first.

    It's a bit mixed here, quite windy. The forecast is good for the BH. Fingers crossed.
    • chanie
    • By chanie 22nd Aug 19, 10:01 AM
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    LL how exciting about the potential job offer. I am currently working on a project with lots of people who are semi-retired. They work a couple of days a week but also have lots of free time.


    I agree with Maman about corporate dress. Most organisations I have worked in have had fairly relaxed dress codes. Even the posh Solicitors I have worked with have pretty much abandoned suits for women in favour of dreseses. Have a look at Anna Wintour (Vogue Editor) as a very high end example of the soft tailoring look for corporate wear.
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    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 22nd Aug 19, 12:37 PM
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    Thanks for the tip re Anna Wintour.

    I have just been looking on EBay for ideas. I googled work dresses and I saw several I liked. I think dresses would be much nicer.

    I am going into the city tomorrow so although I probably won't buy anything yet it would be a good chance to see what's out there.

    Getting quite excited now.....
    • SSDD23
    • By SSDD23 22nd Aug 19, 3:22 PM
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    I have been reading up double cleansing today, so popped onto to the boots website and thought I'd see if there is a second type of cleanser in the brand that I use to try it out... found my normal cleanser, 12 for 200ml. What is right next to it? 400ml for 15.50. Thinking of how many bottles I have used since I found this brand, that's loads I could have saved! It's the different type of packaging/bottle that means I've never spotted them as the same product, but just been through the product descriptions and they are identical, it's just 3.50 more for twice as much! What a fool I feel

    Anyway, they only have a gel cleanser so will have to look and see if I can find another brand that use similar ingredients so as not too cause any irritation.

    Does anyone have any experience with double cleansing?
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    • maman
    • By maman 22nd Aug 19, 3:39 PM
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    Not double cleansing but there is an offer on at Boots which might be useful. It's on this site somewhere but what I saw in the paper was if you buy anything from Boots you get a voucher for 10 off a 20 No7 spend. I think that's the gist of it and it ends on Sunday. If it's a brand you use, read up what Martin has to say he's probably better at explaining it!
    • maddiemay
    • By maddiemay 22nd Aug 19, 3:47 PM
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    I have been reading up double cleansing today, so popped onto to the boots website and thought I'd see if there is a second type of cleanser in the brand that I use to try it out... found my normal cleanser, 12 for 200ml. What is right next to it? 400ml for 15.50. Thinking of how many bottles I have used since I found this brand, that's loads I could have saved! It's the different type of packaging/bottle that means I've never spotted them as the same product, but just been through the product descriptions and they are identical, it's just 3.50 more for twice as much! What a fool I feel

    Anyway, they only have a gel cleanser so will have to look and see if I can find another brand that use similar ingredients so as not too cause any irritation.

    Does anyone have any experience with double cleansing?
    Originally posted by SSDD23
    I have been double cleansing for quite a few years now, I prefer a balm or oil cleanser for the first cleanse and then a creamy one second, both removed with a muslin or flannel and warm water. I have sensitised areas on my cheek bones so have to be careful what I use. I have tried lots at various prices, but would like to work towards only buying less expensive/mid range going forward.

    I love some of the Elemis and Emma Hardie ones, but too expensive. Currently keen on Body Shop Camomile Butter and Oil cleansers, No 7 Radiant Results, Superdug Vit E Oil, but the wash off cream ones are a no-no, Superfacialist rose cream cleanser and Liz Earle Cleanse and polish. I do sometimes use the same thing both times, i.e overnight stays away or when I am nearly at the end of a product and want to get it finished.

    Very annoying about the price and size variations I hope that you find something that you like.
    The best thing about the future is that it comes one day at a time. (Abraham Lincoln)
    • SSDD23
    • By SSDD23 22nd Aug 19, 4:00 PM
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    Not double cleansing but there is an offer on at Boots which might be useful. It's on this site somewhere but what I saw in the paper was if you buy anything from Boots you get a voucher for 10 off a 20 No7 spend. I think that's the gist of it and it ends on Sunday. If it's a brand you use, read up what Martin has to say he's probably better at explaining it!
    Originally posted by maman
    It's not the one that I use, but will be looking at those on the way home tonight as I happen to have one of those vouchers in my purse, so feeling a little splurge of the bigger size of my usual face wash, and some no7 bits and pieces, as I have an offer on my boots card of extra points when you spend over 20, and also a double points voucher
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    • SSDD23
    • By SSDD23 22nd Aug 19, 4:02 PM
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    I have been double cleansing for quite a few years now, I prefer a balm or oil cleanser for the first cleanse and then a creamy one second, both removed with a muslin or flannel and warm water. I have sensitised areas on my cheek bones so have to be careful what I use. I have tried lots at various prices, but would like to work towards only buying less expensive/mid range going forward.

    I love some of the Elemis and Emma Hardie ones, but too expensive. Currently keen on Body Shop Camomile Butter and Oil cleansers, No 7 Radiant Results, Superdug Vit E Oil, but the wash off cream ones are a no-no, Superfacialist rose cream cleanser and Liz Earle Cleanse and polish. I do sometimes use the same thing both times, i.e overnight stays away or when I am nearly at the end of a product and want to get it finished.

    Very annoying about the price and size variations I hope that you find something that you like.
    Originally posted by maddiemay
    Seems no7 have a cleansing balm that will tie in nicely with me spending 20 to get 10 off, so will give that a go
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    • savingfortomorrow
    • By savingfortomorrow 22nd Aug 19, 4:09 PM
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    I double cleanse for 4 years.greasy balm and then the micelluar water. It works me. I find that I need to melt the makeup off the face. It saves money long term as the oil based cleansers are effective and allow less cotton pans and cleanser to be used.
    I spotted a few on little woods at a great price. Clinique and the body shop one are excellent.
    • SSDD23
    • By SSDD23 22nd Aug 19, 4:17 PM
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    I double cleanse for 4 years.greasy balm and then the micelluar water. It works me. I find that I need to melt the makeup off the face. It saves money long term as the oil based cleansers are effective and allow less cotton pans and cleanser to be used.
    I spotted a few on little woods at a great price. Clinique and the body shop one are excellent.
    Originally posted by savingfortomorrow
    I'm a big fan of Clinique, it's just quite pricey. Just looked up their face mask as that always did wonders and it's 25! not surprised for how good it is, though.
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    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 22nd Aug 19, 5:37 PM
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    Double cleansing all the way. . It's how I was trained, sorry I've never mentioned it .

    You don't have to use separate products, it's not strictly necessary. Just use what suits you best,
    • savingfortomorrow
    • By savingfortomorrow 22nd Aug 19, 9:21 PM
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    A good balm lasts me about 6 months as you need so little. The lotion cleansers are not able to shift waterproof makeup. My skin can sting with some cleansing lotions so honestly I don't use them at all.
    What works for you may be totally different.

    Dealing with humidity was hard today as it was on the cusp of rain. It's a real pity there is no light weight non heat retaining jacket that does not look like a poncho. If any one has an elegant solution.

    Popped into my local charity shop and it was really poor stock. I've a bit more to declutter but it would be welcome getting it done now, before the cold comes in fully. A serious cull of items is needed. A good wardrobe is like a garden, lots of dead heading and removing stuff from the last season.
    • SSDD23
    • By SSDD23 22nd Aug 19, 9:55 PM
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    I was intrigued by the balm when I opened it, I think I was expecting something more fluid! Felt lovely being massaged into the skin though, and my skin feels lovely after have done the double cleanse and my usual other stuff

    I opted for a lipstick to take it over 20 and by some miracle found a very subtle shade that actually looks nice on me a productive trip!
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    • Wednesday2000
    • By Wednesday2000 23rd Aug 19, 6:01 AM
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    Double cleansing? Is that like cleansing, toning and moisturising?

    I use some facial/ almond oil and then an exfoliating facial wash and then moisturiser. I'm layering two different moisturisers at the moment.

    I am getting my mini trampoline out today and I'm going to do 5/10 minutes a day. It really tones up your body quickly as it is so high intensity. I was thinking about going out to meet my friends next month! I haven't seen them in 6 years and I want to look my best!

    ETA - https://www.elle.com/uk/beauty/skin/a36728/double-cleansing-skin-what-is-it/
    So it is basically what I do already!
    Last edited by Wednesday2000; 23-08-2019 at 6:03 AM.
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    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 23rd Aug 19, 6:53 AM
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    Good morning lovely ladies

    Looks like the mini heatwave is about to begin. . I'm going to go into the city this morning before it gets too hot. Then I'm going to just enjoy the weather for the next few days. The last gasp of summer.

    I've got another two mozzie bites....the one on my arm is particularly nasty. I didn't get this many when I was in the Amazon...... Need to start taking preventative measures.

    Trampolining sounds like fun.
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