Dangerous dogs with children

suki1964

Hawthorn wrote: »

You know Suki, I didn't know that. My mums second dog was a cocker. A blue Roan rather than the red type mind. He was so so daft. Not a willful bone in his body. I guess he was the exception, rather than the rule

You see there you go - there are no rules when it comes to type

My last baby was a solid black, very bad breeding (puppy farm) and was a darling as a pup, so easily trained and always so biddable. My blue roan who I have now comes from a very good successful breeder (daddy is a Crufts champ) yet really is a gobby wilful little sod. I remember the first week I had him I was sat in tears thinking I had the devil dog and Id never get control of him.

But we have got there in the end (well a truce)

Theres a fantastic website for cocker owners/lovers - https://www.cockersonline.co.uk Its a uk site and the amount of knowledge and help there is amazing. Theres postings from everyone, breeders through to new owners. If anyone is even thinking of getting a Cocker - either show or working then I would suggest that site as the first stop

suki1964

Misty_Blue wrote: »

And so say all of us! :T

Well all bar one :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Misty_Blue

suki1964 wrote: »

yet really is a gobby wilful little sod.

One of my Roughs is like that, and yet they're meant to be such a biddable, placid breed! :rotfl: Not an ounce of aggression in him and he loves people and other dogs, but he's sooooooooo over-confident and mouthy it's hysterical.

suki1964

lostinrates wrote: »

Thanks for the link.

I think the thing is that cocker breeders acted very responsibly in breeding programmes to minimise this, and yes, its certaonly not just cockers who suffer from it, never meant to imply that.

Hey no problems, Im sure you didnt

I'm sure there's more then one person who comes across this thread who has heard the same about rage. The more people who are educated and the more understanding of it, then perhaps fewer pups are destroyed just because their owners cant be bothered to put in the hard work required to get a well behaved dog

SarahNeedle1872

My Mum has an 10 yr old Staffie, who looks like she would chew your face off in an instant, but is the most loyal and loving dog, but I would never leave my 16 mth old son alone with her - only because she has never had the experience of small children, and DS has a habit of shouting at dogs (especially ours!) The only damage I think she would do is knock him down, as she is very well built and very excitable, but I would never put DS or the dog in that position!

My dog on the other hand is the stereo-typical family dog (7 yr old Black Lab), who is so laid back its untrue, and will allow DS to climb over him, get into his bed, eat his food etc etc. DS grabs him as he walks past, sometimes by the face:eek: and Charlie just looks at me for reassurance. Despite all the I would NEVER leave the two of them together without me being around, it only takes Charlie to have an off day or DS to grab him in the wrong way, and Charlie could snap.

Could I choose between my child and my dog? It would be heartbreaking, but the child would win in the end However, refering to the OP, if I were in that situation, I would have not considered having a child arond a dog prone to violence. If I were to fall pregnant, I would have to rehome the dog at a rescue shelter, and hope that someone would take them in and love them.
I know it is hard re-homing a dog.... as a child, we had to take our dog to a rescue centre after my parents split up, as we just couldn't afford to keep him..... after two days without him, my sister and I pledged that we would never eat again if we could have our dog back! We were lucky that he hadn't been re-homed, and he lived with us until he died aged 16.

tbain

suki1964 wrote: »

Well all bar one :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

I don't think I was the only one.Look I am not massively experienced with dogs and never claimed to be , all I said is that certain breeds and children do not mix in my opinion and that you can be the perfect owner of a dog but sometimes a dog can just snap. I was not the only person that said that, so why try and be argumentative and make funny remarks? It's just catty and extremely petty. I gave my opinion , why don't you just leave me alone please?

LillyJ

SarahNeedle1872 wrote: »

My Mum has an 10 yr old Staffie, who looks like she would chew your face off in an instant, but is the most loyal and loving dog, but I would never leave my 16 mth old son alone with her - only because she has never had the experience of small children, and DS has a habit of shouting at dogs (especially ours!) The only damage I think she would do is knock him down, as she is very well built and very excitable, but I would never put DS or the dog in that position!

My dog on the other hand is the stereo-typical family dog (7 yr old Black Lab), who is so laid back its untrue, and will allow DS to climb over him, get into his bed, eat his food etc etc. DS grabs him as he walks past, sometimes by the face:eek: and Charlie just looks at me for reassurance. Despite all the I would NEVER leave the two of them together without me being around, it only takes Charlie to have an off day or DS to grab him in the wrong way, and Charlie could snap.

Could I choose between my child and my dog? It would be heartbreaking, but the child would win in the end However, refering to the OP, if I were in that situation, I would have not considered having a child arond a dog prone to violence. If I were to fall pregnant, I would have to rehome the dog at a rescue shelter, and hope that someone would take them in and love them.
I know it is hard re-homing a dog.... as a child, we had to take our dog to a rescue centre after my parents split up, as we just couldn't afford to keep him..... after two days without him, my sister and I pledged that we would never eat again if we could have our dog back! We were lucky that he hadn't been re-homed, and he lived with us until he died aged 16.

It's funny how kids do that to animals isn't it? It is almost like they love them too much. I babysit a 2 year old who has 3 cats at home and I have to watch him like a hawk when he is playing on the floor as when the cats come in the room he cuddles them so hard they scratch and try to bite him!
Your lab sounds a bit like mine, my neice gets in to my dogs bed with him and wraps her arms round his massive head and he just sighs and lets her do it! He is actually at his calmest when he is being held by a person, I think it is because his last owner died. My Dad also found it hilarious to hold my niece over the dogs back and let her pretend to ride him like a horse. I soon put a stop to it, but the dog couldn't seem to care less! He didn't let her put her weight on him at all, but I wasn't impressed even though the rest of the family were almost wetting themselves laughing as it is a standing joke that he is more the size of a horse than a dog!

happymoneysaver79

Hawthorn wrote: »

I'm not entirely sure that this is true.

a tiny breed (thinking between chihuahua/westie sort of size).

Hmmm, wouldn't have said that a westie was a tiny breed?:rolleyes:

suki1964

tbain wrote: »

I don't think I was the only one.Look I am not massively experienced with dogs and never claimed to be , all I said is that certain breeds and children do not mix in my opinion and that you can be the perfect owner of a dog but sometimes a dog can just snap. I was not the only person that said that, so why try and be argumentative and make funny remarks? It's just catty and extremely petty. I gave my opinion , why don't you just leave me alone please?

Because you didn't just say you were of the opinion, you insisted you were right because of a few newspaper articles and insisted that those of us who didn't agree with you were wrong


Now persoanlly I dont care how little you know about dogs but I do care that you are not prepared to accept that perhaps your perception of a breed is skew wif

Please , if you are going to voice an opinion on a public board, be ready to back up your claims because not everyone will agree with you, some will take um bridge and others will be down right nasty (which hasnt happened here cos we are all dog lovers and therefore nice happy people)

Im glad to hear that you would never leave any child with ANY dog unattended (responsible owner) and I hope that having read through the replies on this thread you have a bit more of an understanding about different breeds from actual owners and not the BBC

And I promise never to use that word again

Hawthorn

happymoneysaver79 wrote: »

Hawthorn wrote: »

I'm not entirely sure that this is true.

a tiny breed (thinking between chihuahua/westie sort of size).

Hmmm, wouldn't have said that a westie was a tiny breed?:rolleyes:

You know what I mean. Tiny to small dogs that sort of size range.