Slim Shot - i am happily surprised!! Weight Loss

cgk1

A lot of it (again, my experience) is the person failing to recognise that they are at fault for their weight. Nobody else. I'm a firm believer that the 'fat epidemic' we have is, for the majority, caused by laziness.

It's a common sense answer but actually completely wrong when considering chronic over-eaters. Many obese people know what they are eating down to the last calorie (head over to any of the slimming world or weight watchers threads here to see how obsessively some people are monitoring their food intake), they obsessively document all aspects of their eating and exercise but it's still no help because they are not dealing with the underlying psychological issues that are causing them to over eat.

Wootball

cgk1 wrote: »

It's a common sense answer but actually completely wrong when considering chronic over-eaters. Many obese people know what they are eating down to the last calorie (head over to any of the slimming world or weight watchers threads here to see how obsessively some people are monitoring their food intake), they obsessively document all aspects of their eating and exercise but it's still no help because they are not dealing with the underlying psychological issues that are causing them to over eat.

I am/was a chronic overeater.

I just stopped eating the junk, I still eat an insane amount of food.

I am one of the members of the Slimming World thread.

cgk1

Wootball wrote: »

I am/was a chronic overeater.

I just stopped eating the junk, I still eat an insane amount of food.

I am one of the members of the Slimming World thread.

That's great but if you were simply able to stop you aren't in the problem group I'm describing, in the same way that I'm not and when I got out of shape due to my own indifference it was easy for me to fix because I don't have any underlying issues related to food.

roshydoshy

Yup I think you can get a banana one, a honey one, a choc one (which will probably be right up your street!) and a plain one i think?

I find they work well for me, and hope its good for someone else too!

Wootball

cgk1 wrote: »

That's great but if you were simply able to stop you aren't in the problem group I'm describing, in the same way that I'm not and when I got out of shape due to my own indifference it was easy for me to fix because I don't have any underlying issues related to food.

But that's exactly what I'm saying - I did have an underlying problem with food. It was psychological for me, and without going into massive detail I spent a good few years of my life hoping I wouldn't wake up in the morning and hiding food from my friends/family because it was the only thing that made me feel better.

It turned around when me and my fiancee decided that we wanted kids. I am NOT being a fat dad. My kids welfare is more important than me feeling like two packets of chocolate digestives per day (every day, oh yes I did) would make me feel better.

If somebody knows they are massively overweight and doesn't do anything about it it's up to them - but there will come a point when they get the correct motivation and they get the feeling that nothing will stop them. The majority will give up, not because the cream cakes are keeping them alive, but because 'its too hard'.

tara747

Wootball wrote: »

But that's exactly what I'm saying - I did have an underlying problem with food. It was psychological for me, and without going into massive detail I spent a good few years of my life hoping I wouldn't wake up in the morning and hiding food from my friends/family because it was the only thing that made me feel better.

It turned around when me and my fiancee decided that we wanted kids. I am NOT being a fat dad. My kids welfare is more important than me feeling like two packets of chocolate digestives per day (every day, oh yes I did) would make me feel better.

If somebody knows they are massively overweight and doesn't do anything about it it's up to them - but there will come a point when they get the correct motivation and they get the feeling that nothing will stop them. The majority will give up, not because the cream cakes are keeping them alive, but because 'its too hard'.

Thanks for sharing your story, and sorry to hear you had problems with overeating.

I'm not sure whether I have issues with food tbh, I certainly don't have the automatic ability to stop eating my 'trigger' foods just like that. And I suppose I do partake in some 'emotional eating' at times. Oh dear!!!!

roshy, thanks for that!!! I can't find the banana ones online, they sound lush though,. Do you have a link to them? The honey and nut ones sound fab as well.

roshydoshy

having looked online, it seems that you can only get the banana one abroad - sorry!!!
i'm intrigued now to try them - next time i'm abroad i'll be checking out the cereal isle for once :rotfl:

Lil_Me_2

cgk1 wrote: »

(head over to any of the slimming world or weight watchers threads here to see how obsessively some people are monitoring their food intake), they obsessively document all aspects of their eating and exercise but it's still no help because they are not dealing with the underlying psychological issues that are causing them to over eat.

I disagree that documenting what you're eating is a bad thing! When I started losing weight I documented everything, and did so for a few months. It's all part of the education! For many it isn't a psychological issue, it's a simple issue of underestimating the number of calories that are being eaten.

Everyone knows that men should eat 2500 and women 2000, however very few actually work out how many calories they eat and the calorific value of most foods.

Over eating is not a problem, as long as you eat the right foods! By educating people on what foods are "good" and what are "bad" (and not just fruit and veg!) and putting things in the bigger picture such as yes you can have pizza on a weekend, but you need to balance that with good healthy meals the rest of the week.

I know that my problem wasn't the amount I ate, it was what I ate. Now I have the same portion sizes, just better food.

tara747

roshydoshy wrote: »

having looked online, it seems that you can only get the banana one abroad - sorry!!!
i'm intrigued now to try them - next time i'm abroad i'll be checking out the cereal isle for once :rotfl:

Boo! I'll be looking for it as well :rotfl:

Eric_Pisch

tara747 wrote: »

No debts here. Demons, hmm, not sure, what do you mean exactly?

I am trying to eat more protein, I am also drinking skimmed milk every day for protein, to make me feel fuller etc. Also, a recent health prog said that calcium can help stop fat being absorbed by the body. Not sure whether to believe it or not but hey!

Breakfast is always difficult for me to vary. I don't eat toast any more (only occasionally at weekends) and I hate cereals, I'm not a big fan of muesli unless it's one of the nutty ones (i.e. loaded with fat). I struggle to find a decent breakfast that I can eat at work and that will fill me till lunchtime!

Here are my usual options:

2 boiled eggs - my usual atm. Tasty, fills me most of the morning, easy to eat at work. Downside: possibly too many eggs = high cholesterol?

Porridge - hard to get the taste right as I don't like it plain and am reluctant to use sugar. Might try cinnamon? Also, it doesn't always fill me till lunch.

Fruit - tasty but defo not filling enough!

Low fat Greek yogurt - again, not filling enough.

That's about it! I really need inspiration for healthy breakfast ideas. Also healthy snacks. Anyone able to help? I would be so grateful.

I always try to drink herbal tea with breakfast to fill me up a bit more, and have about 3 cups through the day.

I hear that caffeine speeds up your metabolism, do you need lots of it though?

Demons - any deep seated psychological issues that you truthly have not come to terms with which may be an underlying cause for issue (generally only occurs in the obese+) for me it was an abusive childhood

ok another tip, dont fall into the avoid fat myth to loose weight, we spent 2 million odd years on a high fat diet, even cholesterol has been proven not to cause clogged arteries now. Avoid trans fats thou there unnatural and the body can not process them properly. 35-40% of my calorie intake is oils and fats (about 70% of that poly/mono)

calcium does bind with fat and get passed through the system, in fact my with who had been a yoyo dieter for 25 years (low fat) had been constipated the whole time, since switching over to a sensible amount of fat in her diet her constipation has gone.

as for breakfast if you have to eat grains then oats are about the best, for a change i often have crushed pecans on it nom nom.

low fat greek yoghurt is great as its high in protein and calcium and live yoghurt (which most greek ones are) are very good for gut health. I eat this most days, the full fat ones are great as well if you can work them into your daily cal allowance.

caffeine does have a slight metabolic overhead but it has one downside in that it creates carb cravings, see here

Quit caffeine. What? I know what I said. I hated the thought of it too. But caffeine can be one of the worst culprits in activating cortisol spikes. I started losing weight again as soon as I quit drinking diet, caffeinated soda (okay, okay, so I was drinking three and a half gallons a week, but how many of you keep track of your intake?

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