Adult acne cure

bobbiely

Distilled Witch Hazel about £1.50 from Superdrug/Savers/Boots and other similar places makes the skin & pores feel tighter, seen witch hazel advertised as a acne help everywhere and thought I'd cut out the middle man (witch hazel products aren't half expensive!)

Ted_Hutchinson

bobbiely wrote: »

Distilled Witch Hazel about £1.50 from Superdrug/Savers/Boots and other similar places makes the skin & pores feel tighter, seen witch hazel advertised as a acne help everywhere and thought I'd cut out the middle man (witch hazel products aren't half expensive!)

I haven't been able to find any scientific evidence to support the use of Witch Hazel for acne.

If you click the link I provided, you will find out the use of a low carbohydrate diet has good scientific evidence to support that approach with regard to reducing the cause of acne, similarly, the article goes on to state the good scientific reasons why milk may make matters worse.

If you can provide a link to the science behind the use of Witch Hazel then I'd be interested to read it.

Ted_Hutchinson

Dear Dr. Cannell:

My teenage son has type 2 diabetes. I started him on 5,000 IU of vitamin D a day about 6 months ago. Three things have happened so far, he started losing weight, his blood sugars improved, and his acne went away. I know you have written about diabetes and weight loss with vitamin D but I can't remember anything about acne?

Mary, North Dakota

Dear Mary:

I have had some reports that vitamin D cured acne but frankly, I didn't believe them. Then I ran across this 1938 paper. You can read the entire paper yourself and see what 5,000 to 14,000 IU per day did for these patients with severe acne. When I was a kid, I always wondered why my pimples got better in the summer and worse in the winter.

Maynard MT. Vitamin D in Acne: A Comparison with X-Ray Treatment. Cal West Med. 1938 Aug;49(2):127-32.

As far as vitamin D improving type-2 diabetes, in my experience, that is the rule not the exception. How much it will improve it probably depends on how much vitamin D you give and how much weight the child loses together with his diet. Higher levels 25(OH)D prevent the disease but so far, I am not aware of any randomized controlled trials showing a treatment effect but, in the past, about half my adult type-2 patients were eventually able to go off their diabetic meds with proper doses of vitamin D. Dr. Knekt, at the National Public Health Institute in Finland, just discovered that men with the highest 25(OH)D levels (>30 ng/ml) had an 82% lower risk of developing type-2 diabetes in the future compared to men with the lowest levels but no effect was found in women. And get this, in Finland the average 25(OH)D level for all 7503 people tested was 43 nmol/L or 17 ng/m. For men it was 18 ng/ml and for women only 15 ng/m and that was a representative sample of Finnish adults!!!

Knekt P, et al. Serum vitamin D and subsequent occurrence of type 2 diabetes. Epidemiology. 2008 Sep;19(5):666-71.

Loopy_Girl

OP, if this is affecting your life either physically or emotionally and/or your spots are leaving scars then go to your GP and ask to be referred to a dermatologist.

Without boring you I suffered from first teenage acne at 12 and through the years it got re-labelled as adult acne until I was 32 last year!!!! It took me 20 years to convince then I wasn't going to grown out of it!!!:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

There is a treatment available called Roaccutane which worked a treat for me. Be warned that the side effects are really really unpleasant but if you stick with it then the results are amazing. It was explained to me that my oil production needed 're-programmed' and this is what happened.

She also told me that diet has no effect on acne. It's an old wifes tale and cutting out food groups from your daily diet isn't good practice and she also told me that if you get your '5 a day' that it has all the vitamins you need.

When you are on Roaccutane you have to keep away from taking too much Vitamin A and you absolutely cannot without question get pregnant on it.

Hope this helps

Ted_Hutchinson

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

She also told me that diet has no effect on acne.

Why don't you read the research I provide. Do you really think organisations like Medscape are going to be putting information online that has no basis in current research. They are there to educate doctors and old wives tales are not what doctors are interested in.

d she also told me that if you get your '5 a day' that it has all the vitamins you need.

Well that proves she doesn't know what she is talking about.
Just try finding out the Vitamin D content of fruit and veg and tell me which supply the 5000iu/daily your body uses. I really don't know don't know how some of these health professionals keep their jobs the utter codswallop they come out with. Why didn't you point out to your dermatologist what nonsense she was talking.

How do you think humans survived before the invention of farming?

Our bodies evolved to live outdoors in the sunshine and our diets did NOT contain refined carbohydrates nor vegetable oils nor pulses.

If our bodies evolved without these foods what changes have occurred to our DNA that make them essential now? I think you will find our DNA is the same as that 10,000yrs ago.

The more research they do the more they discover that our brains and our hearts function better on a low carb diet.. As people eating natural diets in primitive countries don't get acne, but they do when they start eating western style foods it must be diet related.

glowgirl_2

Hi Ted-Hutchinson

Sorry the OP to Hijack this thread but I am very interested in the information you have provided about vitamin D, I have read some of your posts and links but wonder if you have a spare moment if you could briefly condense some of the information for me, I would like to know which foods would be the best to eat and if I should be taking a supplement to increase my intake of vitamin D. I already follow a diet very similar to the one you have mentioned and I too lost a considerable amount of weight which has stayed off as I now follow this way of eating as a choice rather than a weight loss aid. Thank you in advance.

Loopy_Girl

Ted_Hutchinson wrote: »

Why don't you read the research I provide.

Because you come across as preachy and think Vitamin D is a cure all and give links to massive studies which I don't have the time or inclination to read. I had horrendous acne, used this treatment and never changed my diet and yet I have not had a single spot for nearly 10 months and my skin is not the oil slick that it used to be. There's MY findings on what I suggested.

Some people are looking for advice which can be bought over the counter or helped by a GP.

I gave one of those options and for the record when I had severe acne, witch hazel was a great thing to use as it dried the area.

Loopy_Girl

Ted_Hutchinson wrote: »

Why didn't you point out to your dermatologist what nonsense she was talking.

Because I don't see her now cos my skin is ALL BETTER...

In your opinion it's nonsense and no doubt the trillions of links you post (please don't link another for me...) but in my mind, as a mother, I am doing the right thing giving 5 a day and I eat 5 a day...and I am a healthy person and so is my small person.

There is trying to make people see things in other ways and then there is forcing it down their throat and I don't like that personally

Ted_Hutchinson

Loopy_Girl wrote: »

In your opinion it's nonsense and no doubt the trillions of links you post (please don't link another for me...) but in my mind, as a mother, I am doing the right thing giving 5 a day and I eat 5 a day...and I am a healthy person and so is my small person

I am not suggesting that eating 5 a day is not healthy. I am merely pointing out the your 5 a day cannot and will not provide you with the Vitamin D your body needs. To suggest it will is codswallop.
Similarly if you want your B12 in appropriate amounts you will need fish, milk, meat implying that you can get all your vitamins/minerals simply by ensuring you eat your 5 a day is simply misguided.

There is trying to make people see things in other ways and then there is forcing it down their throat and I don't like that personally

And I find people who repeat total nonsense equally irritating.

If you want to believe in fairy stories that's your choice but in the real world we need evidence that can be repeated in scientific experiments and we also have to apply our common sense.

I appreciate the science explaining how refined carbohydrates create a higher dietary glycemic load and this may add to the biological activity of sex hormones and IGF-I, and that suggests these diets may make the underlying causes of acne more active and thus result in the development of more acne is not easy reading but you can understand it if you make the effort.

I am not forcing it on anyone.

I just want people to understand the latest science so they can benefit from it as soon as possible.

The research above concludes Low Glycemic Load diets may have a therapeutic potential in the treatment of acne because of the beneficial endocrine effects of these diets. When compared to a typical High glycemic Load Western diet, an LGL diet was shown to reduce postprandial glycemia, while improving insulin sensitivity and decreasing androgen bioavailability.

When there is good scientific evidence that diet, in a controlled environment where access to high glycemic load foods is totally prevented and the acne sufferers can only eat the food the scientists provide, they can show marked reductions in a short period in acne then it is simply wrong to say acne is not related to diet.

kungfucandy

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