Council moves chavs into £200k new builds

SingleSue

So you only end up in HA/council housing if you are lazy,stupid etc etc.

Hmmmm

Afraid some posts are very wide of the mark here as I am extremely hard working (refused pocket money when I was 12 and started working to pay my own way, at one point having 5 jobs) have an IQ in the gifted area and shock horror...no criminal record!

My children have the work ethic drummed into them, I have even had arguements with my local single parent advisor because of my determination to work (think they are scared about the ramifications of 2 disabled children having to be looked after while I work), have had the same disagreement with the local education authority for the same reasons - as far as they are concerned, I should ignore the typecasting by others and concentrate on doing my duty as a parent and carer.

My children also work very hard with their school work and despite disabilities to 2 of them (I have 3, all conceived during marriage) are all in the high IQ region with my eldest taking GCSE's over 2 years early. Their intention is not to sit on the dole (nor would I allow them to) but to get their qualifications and work.

And to think that less than 3 years ago, I was known as middle class and would spout out fairly much what others have said regarding single parents or people claiming benefits....experience is a huge eye opener.

mitchaa

olly300 wrote: »

It's actually your opinion not a fact.

A few of my friends and even members of my family (not closely related) have managed to play the system. Either their parents lived in council houses or (in the case of my family) they have had jobs in the civil service. Due to this they have managed to get themselves nice council or HA flats. However they are not poor.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Play the system, exactly my point.

simplymyeye

I think some people on here need to understand all people are different and have different situations.... I live in a 1910 terraced house either side the props are council and I brought mine last year. I really struggled to buy my house and moved to where i could afford. My neighbours both work and are decent people who both really look after their properties. At the end of the day they pay the council i pay the mortgage company and there isnt much difference in the price we pay. The only difference is i will own my property at the end of it. People get to hung up on the fact that people get free housing.... But people really struggle to get a place weither its council or brought. You will always get someone who doesnt care about the property they are in but why come on here and say things about the areas being scummy and having paedophiles... I think that is just sick

mitchaa

simplymyeye wrote: »

I think some people on here need to understand all people are different and have different situations.... I live in a 1910 terraced house either side the props are council and I brought mine last year. I really struggled to buy my house and moved to where i could afford. My neighbours both work and are decent people who both really look after their properties. At the end of the day they pay the council i pay the mortgage company and there isnt much difference in the price we pay. The only difference is i will own my property at the end of it. People get to hung up on the fact that people get free housing.... But people really struggle to get a place weither its council or brought. You will always get someone who doesnt care about the property they are in but why come on here and say things about the areas being scummy and having paedophiles... I think that is just sick

I brought my daughter along with me.

I bought a car.

2 totally different words

mitchaa

olly300 wrote: »

It's actually your opinion not a fact.

A few of my friends and even members of my family (not closely related) have managed to play the system. Either their parents lived in council houses or (in the case of my family) they have had jobs in the civil service. Due to this they have managed to get themselves nice council or HA flats. However they are not poor.

Why live in London and pay £500 per month for a room when you can get an entire flat in a prime location for less than that?

Would you say this example is a majority or minority throughout the UK in repects to people living in council homes?

Also, if they weren't poor, why the need to live in council/HA homes?

SingleSue

I would say that is the minority mitchaa going by the circumstances behind the people living around my area.

mitchaa

SingleSue wrote: »

I would say that is the minority mitchaa going by the circumstances behind the people living around my area.

Yes agreed, generally people living in council/HA homes have no other choice due to their financial status.

Nothing wrong with that and that is what these homes are for.

SingleSue

Blimey, we agree!

Saying that, as in all things, there will be people who will play the system but some of the playing has been taken out of action in this area with the advent of housing associations where you do not automatically have the right to pass down a property to a relative.

oldMcDonald

Oh God, I am probably gonna get flamed for this, but here goes...

I am in a HA house and I certainly don't consider myself to be poor, stupid or chav scum.

We rented a house,it was an ex council house, we were happy there, there would never be any plans to sell (this was definite but I am not going to go into the reasons here)...we had a secure home for life. Then suddenly things went wrong. The local council decided that the homes of this type that they owned were to be pulled down, entered into a deal with the HA - who then promptly gave the owners a choice of sell at market value or be given a compulsory purchase at a reduced amount.

The HA made us homeless through their actions and we were lucky in that they then found us a house. We are not *poor*, and we could have rented privately, but no one would take us on. One of our children is profoundly disabled and it was hard enough to find somewhere to take children, no one was prepared to take us with our disabled little one as all they saw was hassle and adaptations.

We couldn't afford to buy. House prices where we are are past what we could afford. We have a good amount saved for a deposit right now, yet we still can't afford to buy as we need a minimum 3 bed, which would cost at least 8xsalary. I work part-time, DH is working his !!!!! off 6 days a week, and we cut back on everything - and I mean everything, we don't even have a telly so we can save that little extra by not buying a licence- so we can get a bigger deposit instead.

Mitcha, poorness is relative - we are a lot poorer than most in our area, but we are also better off than many who live in other areas - we pay our own rent, council tax etc. I think I am right in remembering that it was you who has the bad council neighbours and live with your parents in an ex-council house? Just because your experience in a social housing area has not been good, does not mean that everyone is the same. My neighbours - all HA- work bloody hard, have nice gardens, not a sign of a dumped car for miles.......we are actually reasonable human beings, not chav scum. I get so fed up with reading that because I live where I do then I am chav scum, not fit to walk this earth or breathe the same air as those who are 'better' than me.

I want to move - why? Well, because I believe that social housing is there for times of need, we needed help and we recieved it, with many, many thanks, but we are in a position whereby we can get some money put aside, and we are relying on a house price drop along with our savings meaning we can buy somewhere, then we can free up this home for others who have need for it.

cazzie_s

Some opinions should be kept to yourselves.

I congratulate those who have done well for themselves but do they have to be high and mighty and ram it down our throats?

I used to do well for myself but now I am on the other side of the fence. I will not go into details, but everyones situations/circumstances are different. We're not all lazy or chavs. We do try hard for our families.

Can some forum users get off their high horses and stop tarring us with the same brush?!