Council moves chavs into £200k new builds

brit1234

I visit these new developments all the time in London and the vast majority are ruined by chavs, criminals, drug addicts, council tenant domestics. I couldn't afford to buy one out right and would be forced into the shared ownership. It is simply not worth put all my savings in and having a huge mortgage with all the associated out goings (extra rent, service charge) to live with the same people I deal with every day. The build quality is often appalling.

These are the blocks that are going to loose there value most.

SingleSue

Microstar wrote: »

Well I'll certainly stick my hand up and declare myself a nimby, snob, or whatever you want to call me. My own house is in a very nice area. Beautiful 12th century church over the road, driveways occupied by prestige cars, well tended gardens and good local schools where all the kids speak English and are mostly well behaved. No loud stereos or people shouting four-letter words in the street.
I certainly don't want to live somewhere with a load of HA or LA tenants, 'works' vans parked up in the driveway (so many residential areas look like small industrial estates), chavs with lowered cars and loud stereos, revving engines etc. Yeah, I'm a nimby and I really like it that way. You have'em in your back yard.

Strange that but I DO live in a street full of housing association (Ex Council) houses and I don't have that either! We have rolling fields behind us, in a very pretty village location, the local school is not a diverse one, all of us take pride in our gardens and spend many hours making them look very pretty indeed. There are no burnt out cars, rubbish in the streets, graffiti on the walls, domestic arguements (had more of those with our next door neighbours in private rent and purchased property) and no drug addicts loitering around scoring their next fix.

Sorry to blow the preconceptions regarding social housing here but it is not the story of all social housing that it will be run by the undesirables... there was more of them on a private housing estate where everyone had mortgages!

CHARDONNAY_3

Hey Single Sue - I agree!

Who the hell do these arrogant ****ers like microstar think they are?

I live in an HA flat and most of the other residents are young singles and couples who work but cannot afford to buy a place of their own.

At least while house prices are falling, we can sit back and relax, cos it's a positive for us, not a negative.

I hope microstar has his precious home repossed/ trashed by 'chavs' etc
and has to beg the council for a roof over his head!

Some people lead such sheltered lives and should really wake up to the real world!

ruggedtoast

Microstar wrote: »

Well I'll certainly stick my hand up and declare myself a nimby, snob, or whatever you want to call me. My own house is in a very nice area. Beautiful 12th century church over the road, driveways occupied by prestige cars, well tended gardens and good local schools where all the kids speak English and are mostly well behaved. No loud stereos or people shouting four-letter words in the street.
I certainly don't want to live somewhere with a load of HA or LA tenants, 'works' vans parked up in the driveway (so many residential areas look like small industrial estates), chavs with lowered cars and loud stereos, revving engines etc. Yeah, I'm a nimby and I really like it that way. You have'em in your back yard.

Do you live in 1958?

Microstar_2

CHARDONNAY wrote: »

Hey Single Sue - I agree!

Who the hell do these arrogant ****ers like microstar think they are?

I live in an HA flat and most of the other residents are young singles and couples who work but cannot afford to buy a place of their own.

At least while house prices are falling, we can sit back and relax, cos it's a positive for us, not a negative.

I hope microstar has his precious home repossed/ trashed by 'chavs' etc
and has to beg the council for a roof over his head!

Some people lead such sheltered lives and should really wake up to the real world!

Since I own my house outright (and a couple of others which I let out) I find it hard to imagine any circumstance in which I could be 'repossed'. :rotfl:

I do indeed live in the real world. I'm a landlord and have been for many years (since well before the BTL craze). I like to live a nice life - what's wrong with that? IME (which is considerably greater than yours I think) people who have a strong financial interest in their home (i.e. own it or have a mortgage on it) take much greater care of the property and have more of an interest in keeping the local area in good shape.
The one thing that all small children should be taught when they start school is that life is not 'fair'. Some are destined to do well and others are likely to end up as council-house dwelling chavs.
I had to take my elderly father to hospital yesterday, I paid for him to attend the local BUPA hospital. Of course I could have taken him to the NHS hospital, struggled to park, sat waiting for an age amongst the world's flotsam and jetsam and then see some consultant's junior assistant in a mucky room. As it was we drove straight into a parking place, into the hospital and saw the key man himself. I'm not embarrassed about being able to do that - I've worked hard in the past and made wise financial decisions, and now I'm able to reap the rewards.
Maybe instead of moaning about prices and not being able to buy, some of the younger generation could work a bit harder, improve their qualifications etc. and generate a bit more income. I came from a relatively poor background but 'made good' through hard work and study. There are lots of opportunities out there - you won't improve your lot in life by whining on message boards.

CheeseCat

Microstar - do you think that money = a better person then? Quite frankly I am amazed at your snobby attitude!

Due to my financial situation at the moment, I can't afford to buy a house, nevermind one in a "good area" - does that make me a bad person?

Oh and RE: your last post, I do work hard and I have qualifications. I have aspirations of owning a nice house someday but I hope I don't get the attitude that goes with it! It doesn't matter to me how much money someone has, rather their attitude and how they treat people and the respect they have for others.

Microstar_2

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Do you live in 1958?

So you are saying that my description of a typical chav estate is wrong are you? I reckon its very accurate.
The sad thing is that many of these areas are spiralling downwards. The youngsters who are hard working and intelligent ( a minority, obviously) do well in their education and move away at the first chance. This leaves a residuum of the less able/motivated with a poor work ethic. Poor role models for the kids and a depleted gene pool etc. We are now seeing this on a large scale across the country with large 'sink estates'. Evolution in reverse.

melancholly

there are some HA owned properties on my road - and i pay over double what they do in rent. yes that is indeed annoying, but the people living there are really nice! they're lucky b*astards, don't get me wrong, i'd love to pay less rent, but they sat on lists for a very long time! the houses are well looked after and people seem to stay for a long time (which is far nicer for the local 'community' than lots of 6 month lets with people coming and going and never getting to know their neighbours).

just to put the area into context, houses are on the market for over half a million, the cars are 'nice', gardens are looked after, schools are good (excellent private and state schools within a 10 minute walk). not the best area due to being a bit close to some 'bad' areas, but certainly not a hell hole.

i would politely suggest that microstar may not even realise what houses belong to HAs, since you can't tell them apart from the privately owned houses up here obviously this isn't universal, but lumping everyone in the same box is never going to be fair or popular on here!

this may be a contraversial point, but shameless isn't a documentary!!

Microstar_2

CheeseCat wrote: »

Microstar - do you think that money = a better person then? Quite frankly I am amazed at your snobby attitude!

Due to my financial situation at the moment, I can't afford to buy a house, nevermind one in a "good area" - does that make me a bad person?

No, money does not make a better person. My father was very poor in his early life, but incredibly hard working and brought himself up to the average. I have move on from him.
Many people today ARE poor because they are lazy and/or ignorant. There have never been more opportunities for self-improvement than there are today. Education is thrown at people from all directions - but many don't want it. They prefer to sit on their backsides watching daytime TV, growing increasingly obese and procreating with the rest of the street whilst the state picks up the tab. Meanwhile hard-working East Europeans come in and get work, learn English and improve their lives.

Yes, call it a snobby attitude, but frankly I don't care. I want the best for me and my family. I don't want to rub shoulders with the underclass. I'm not hypocritical about it.

tr3mor

Microstar wrote: »

Many people today ARE poor because they are lazy and/or ignorant. There have never been more opportunities for self-improvement than there are today. Education is thrown at people from all directions - but many don't want it. They prefer to sit on their backsides watching daytime TV, growing increasingly obese and procreating with the rest of the street whilst the state picks up the tab. Meanwhile hard-working East Europeans come in and get work, learn English and improve their lives.

Yes, call it a snobby attitude, but frankly I don't care. I want the best for me and my family. I don't want to rub shoulders with the underclass. I'm not hypocritical about it.

Hear! Hear!

:T