phorm/webwise

BritBrat

Zen have been asked and have no plans to use it.

BritBrat

Alfie_E wrote: »

Consider asking your current ISP if you can move to a business tariff

It’s generally believed that the ISPs planning to use Phorm will only use it on residential customers.

I dont think that is true, I read a post on this the other day and BT has already cost a business money last July trying to find out why phorm was showing up in logs and BT denied any knowledge, but it seems to have turned out to be when they trialed/tested it.

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Zen_Internet wrote:

Zen Internet is not one of the Internet Service Providers (ISPs) who have entered into a contract with Phorm and the Open Internet Exchange (OIX). Zen Internet has not passed customer data on to third parties. Zen Internet will continue to monitor OIX with regards to protecting its customers and their requirements."

SOURCE:

I have alreday added dns.sysip.net and sysip.net to hosts file.

C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc "HOSTS" and open with Notepad.

Add:

127.0.0.1 dns.sysip.net
127.0.0.1 sysip.net

BexTech

Someone mentioned about putting oix.net / oix.com in the blocked cookie setting, however if this nasty spy system went live wouldn't that then prevent us from 'opting' out of the local adverts. Though even opting out doesn't stop virtually all the data passing through their system.

Alfie_E

BexTech wrote: »

Someone mentioned about putting oix.net / oix.com in the blocked cookie setting, however if this nasty spy system went live wouldn't that then prevent us from 'opting' out of the local adverts. Though even opting out doesn't stop virtually all the data passing through their system.

I think one of the accounts that BritBrat is refering to is To own, to be owned, or what else? BT and its proxies by Filippo Spike Morelli. Filippo explains that his experience is consistent with a transparent proxy. When the story first appeared on The Register, many initial reactions were that your page requests would be analysed. That would be both the URL and any material you had typed in to a webform. I believe what Phorm really want is to see what you put in those text boxes on search engine pages. They would then be able to profile ISP customers with a power greater than all the search engines in the world combined.

However, Filippo’s description suggests that this isn’t necessarily what was happening in the trial. The proxy was modifying each and every page it returned, to include code to point the web browser at a Phorm server. Presumably, it was only at that point that the information was collected. BexTech’s suggestion of blocking would then be effective in stopping Phorm collecting data on you. However, other people have suggested that this can’t possibly be used in a final, working system as it would break things that rely on their pages not being modified.

BritBrat

Think I will add these "oix.net / oix.com" to hosts file too.

Nothing like being prepared

Even thou Zen is my provider.

tiddler

BritBrat wrote: »

Think I will add these "oix.net / oix.com" to hosts file too.

Nothing like being prepared

Even thou Zen is my provider.

I don't see that as being great protection. (Unless I'm missing something).

Your ISP will be allowing Phorm to record every page you visit. All your search queries, etc...

Altering your hosts file will just stop the cookies and the targeted adverts.

It's not an opt-out of the monitoring of all your http web traffic.

BexTech

tiddler wrote: »

I don't see that as being great protection. (Unless I'm missing something).

Your ISP will be allowing Phorm to record every page you visit. All your search queries, etc...

Altering your hosts file will just stop the cookies and the targeted adverts.

It's not an opt-out of the monitoring of all your http web traffic.

Yeah, this is the problem.

All your pages will be going through the phorm system and can be read via their system and kept, the opt out is only for the targeted ads, our data either way is still going through their system.

BritBrat

Then move to an ISP that does not use it like Zen internet, the more that move the more chance they will drop the idea and the greater chance some ISP's will not start using it.

So as Martin say's Ditch and Switch.

But as with most things us Brits will just take it as we always do.

utilitybroker

Interesting article in the Register today on this subject.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/29/phorm_broadband_isp_targets/

tiddler

BritBrat wrote: »

Then move to an ISP that does not use it like Zen internet, the more that move the more chance they will drop the idea and the greater chance some ISP's will not start using it.

So as Martin say's Ditch and Switch.

But as with most things us Brits will just take as we always do.

It's not always that easy.

If you've just signed up to Virgin, their minimum contracts are 12 months.
(You do get a chance to cancel in the first month though).