vitamail p.o box 1075 bedford mk41 9xp

lynx10

lindy67 wrote: »

my 72year old father is currently being sucked in by these disgraceful conmen! ... why is our government allowing this?...

Why not write to his MP (cc MEP), citing also some of the news stories of other examples in the foregoing messages, and asking them the same question ?

Regards,

Dave.

lindy67

lindy67 wrote: »

my 72year old father is currently being sucked in by these disgraceful conmen!
he firmly believes his £10,000 is on its way!... i'm sick of telling him its a scam.. but each new fancy envelope and cheap and chatty product they send states "just one more order" and we're ready to despatch!
he's even incurred bank charges for going over his limit with the numerous cheques he sends to these cold calculating scumbags!
if i could personally get my hands on them i wouldnt like to repeat what i'd like to do to them.... :mad: why is our government allowing this? why aren't we allowed to sue the asses of these people??? how many more old and vulnerable pensioners are (like my father) going to be conned out of their life savings???
for the record .... vitamail products are total and utter cheap !!!!!!!
all i can do is read all the members in heres replies to my father in a hope that the penny (not £10,000) WILL FINALLY DROP!

i'll keep on at him

Arcsalin

Thanks to a bit of googling i found this thread.

The clue about this is when the same prize is offered to you after the expiry date of the original competition. I will be writing to them as a bewildered customer to explain why they are doing this when I faithfully replied and wasted my good postage money entering a competition that quite clearly doesn't exist.

Little do they know I am a freelance journalist investigating this type of scam. I will say this though about this company, they do at least give you what you order so that's fair play, just the enticement seems rather ridiculous tbh.

There are some good companies out there where you do actually win something for nothing, just a shame it's only like 2% of them

Chictee2004

Hi all you folks in the "We Hate Promondo and Vitamail Fan Club" Just a short update to since since my last posting on April 25th 2007 I have not received a single item from Promondo.. I do hope that you have all managed to stop the junk mail also !

Finally has anyone heard from Coralie I do hope she had a wonderful cruise on the Sea Princess.

lynx10

lynx10 wrote: »

'Dangerous diet pills sold in UK' (Vitamail/The Linea Institute)
The Sun Online, March 21, 2007
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007130380,00.html

Vitamail: Apology
The Sun, July 31, 2007
PROMONDO SAS, which trades under the name of Vitamail in the UK, has asked us to state with regard to a diet pills story on 21 March that it has no connection with Linea 7 or the Linea Institute, as suggested in that item.
We are happy to make the position clear and apologise for the error.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007350319,00.html

Chictee2004

Hi again all you ""We Hate Promondo and Vitamail Club Members"" just a few lines to let you know that I have still not received anything in the mail from these leeches.

I trust you have all likewise managed to rid yourself of the mailings from this obnoxious company.

Best Wishes:T :j :beer: :rotfl:

lynx10

Toots wrote: »

My dad ended up going bankrupt after having spent tens of thousands of pounds on products from all these companies. I can't believe that Vitamail have had the audacity to contact him again.

Sorry to hear about this - what about the possibility of sending a brief note to your MEP, mentioning the bankruptcy, and enquiring if Vitamail/Promondo are under investigation, e.g., by the European Commission's Enforcement Network ? And if they aren't, why not ?

Regards,

Dave.

"Public enforcement authorities in the Member States play a decisive role in ensuring that consumer protection laws are correctly enforced.

The development of cross border trade in the context of an enlarged Internal Market coupled with the opportunities offered by new technologies challenge the authorities’ ability to enforce consumer laws effectively, as it becomes easier for rogue traders to hide behind borders to target consumers in another Member State. Examples of rogue traders operating in the Internal Market include misleading and threatening clairvoyancy services, deceptive prize draws, mailings concerning unsolicited goods 'waiting' for consumers, unsolicited first aid kits accompanied by demands for payment, direct marketing of slimming products to children and misleading marketing by 'holiday clubs'.

The Enforcement Network formally started its operations end of 2006. It was officially launched by Commissioner M. Kuneva on 28 February 2007, on the occasion of the first of regular meetings of EU enforcement authorities. In its first 8 months of operations, the Network has opened some 100 cases, of which a third has already been closed, and dealt with 20 alerts concerning possible breaches to consumer laws."

EUROPA - Consumer Affairs - Enforcement - Cross-border enforcement and cooperation (CPC)
http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/enforcement/index_en.htm

lynx10

Liberté d'informer Un vépéciste débouté
UFC Que Choisir, 2 novembre 2007
http://quechoisir.org/

My reading of this is that a local French consumer group (UFC Que Choisir) placed Promondo on their mail-order blacklist. But in July 2006, a Court in Grasse fined the consumer group 1 Euro in damages and awarded 1,000 Euros costs to Promondo. Presumably, because, in the court's view, the blacklisting was considered unjustifiable, but the award of just 1 Euro is probably significant.

However, the consumer group appealed, and last month (October 2007), a court in Aix-en-Provence overturned the previous judgment, recognising that the blacklisting had not been undertaken lightly, and awarding 1500 Euros costs in the favour of the consumer group.

One computer-translated version of the story notes: "In its judgment of 11 October, judges have acknowledged that the decision to include Promondo on this blacklist signs of VPC had not been taken lightly. This company in the south of France is known to flood the mailboxes of letters promising to send large sums of money without clarifying that these gains will depend on the outcome of the drawing of lots. The judges agreed that the formulation of the letters was "clearly intended to mislead and to encourage purchases [by] readers less knowledgeable," and that the rules of the game which shows the existence of a draw was written "with the help of tiny characters, compressed and sometimes altered by the bright glare of its socket colorful." [That is, they supplied critical information in small, sometimes difficult-to-read print] The judges also emphasized that the actions of Promondo had "given rise to the filing of a fifty complaints." It does not win every time.

lynx10

I've written again to my MEP (cc OFT), copying the UFC story and requesting some priority in this matter. The bigger scandal now is the apparent lack of meaningful action by government and other agencies charged with acting in the public interest.

wildermi

May be we should be blaming the goverment for this problem as they have been giving and selling our personal detailes for years, it's common knowlage that they sell our detailes to known thugs and criminals, ie baliffs.

There is a common theame hear in that it is mainley the elderley that are being targeted, my nan for one has never turned on a pc in her life, so this would leed me to belive that they are looking at pension detailes.

I also belive the only reason none of these groups ie traiding standards and the rest are saying thay they cannot do anything about it is because they don't want to.

This country used to be great, not any more!