Installing new internal doors

ukwoody

SquirrelJ wrote: »

Is it possible to buy fire treated wood from places like b and q to make your own fire door frames??? I am quite decent at DIY but not brilliant is this a job I could reasonably do or is it too hard???

No. Fire resistant timber is extremly specialised, soaked in a hideous chemical that make your skin itch and stinks!
In actual fact the fire doors and frames are not any different in wood terms than any other timber you can buy. It is the sizing and design of the frames, and the core construction of the door that is the key. You cannot make them yourselves in that manner (well actually you can, but not at DIY level) if you want them to pass any form of inspection.
Woody

Bungarm2001

Cheers woody...! We are fitting the doors in a student HMO so the perco closers are not permitted by our local environmental health officer for whatever reason known only to themselves, so we have come up with these

At least the students won't be able to hang all sorts on them like they can on the perco's, including each other!

Any thoughts on how good they are? Any one used these?

ukwoody

You cannot use those hinges. There is currently no self closing hinge that meets fire regs that I am aware of. The hinges MUST be certifed for fire resistance (especially in HMOs). They are cheap enough from Screwfix, Howdens etc.
Many authorities do not allow Perkos, and any chippie reading this will breathe a sigh of relief as we've all caught our fingers in the damn things when the clip gives way! OUCH!

woody

bookduck

my local council did not want perco closers as the door slam. also the locks must have a thumb opener on the inside rather than a key - eurolock. Cheapest blank fire doors were from magnet and cost me £17 for a 27" door. Wickes were around £28 for my size which were never in stock and £32 for the 28" ones which were too big and must not be cut down, so the frames would have to be adjusted. Remember to purchase the special fire door hinges too at around £10 for 3.

After purchasing the door, it cost me £320 labour to fit one door + frame + hole + fit glass and in another door but the frame was already in situ. All materials extra.

My friend in Stratford - Olympic Land - was charged £400 per door + installation.

Your councils hmo inspection officer is not allowed to make any recommendations, but if you are stuck they may strongly hint etc - if you ask. I found my second HMO officer very decent, helpful human, but the first officer was born a few decades too late and missed her calling to working in the German SS.