Installing new internal doors

phill99

agent_orange wrote: »

Wow, that seems a bit like rocket science. I just put up two doors, planed them fitted hinges latches and striking plate, job done.

Hi agent orange. With ordinary doors, you are absolutely correct. But Bungarm 2001 was asking about Fire check doors and frames. These are different and have to pass Fire/ Building Control Inspection. Putting a frame in is a pig, especially if the wall is out (which 90% of them are). The idea of a fire check door is that if there is a fire, the Intumescent seal expands to stop (primarily) smoke getting through. Therefore tolerences are more critical. I can hang about 7 ordinary doors in a day, but fire checks are not straightforward.

danielfulshaw

OK, so I should have said I'm based in North Cheshire ...don't suppose you guys fancy a trip up North!!?? I've been quoted £ 45 per door and I told them to think of another number and try again.

ormus

dont come to north manchester then.
a mate was quoted 250 quid just to hang a new front door!
(in an existing frame and the door was supplied)
he told them to pizz off.

agent_orange_2

phill99 wrote: »

Hi agent orange. With ordinary doors, you are absolutely correct. But Bungarm 2001 was asking about Fire check doors and frames. These are different and have to pass Fire/ Building Control Inspection. Putting a frame in is a pig, especially if the wall is out (which 90% of them are). The idea of a fire check door is that if there is a fire, the Intumescent seal expands to stop (primarily) smoke getting through. Therefore tolerences are more critical. I can hang about 7 ordinary doors in a day, but fire checks are not straightforward.

Point taken Phil.

headcoat

Slighty off of the point, but anyone know where I can get a decent cheap internal partially glazed door. The size seems to be slightly odd and is 1960 x 805 mm. I have been looking on line and can't find any

phill99

headcoat wrote: »

Slighty off of the point, but anyone know where I can get a decent cheap internal partially glazed door. The size seems to be slightly odd and is 1960 x 805 mm. I have been looking on line and can't find any

Doors are normally in increments of 3" from 15" ie 18", 21", 24", 27", 30" etc, with 27 and 30 being the most popular in the UK for internal doors. 78" is the standard height. In the 70's many houses were built with metric doors ie Not measured in imperial. Yours may be one of those.

Occassionally, you also get 32" x 80", but not common

Also, and more importantly, that measurement may be what the door has been cut down to, rather than its original 'as supplied' size. For instance, its not uncommon to find an opening of 29.5" wide by 77" high. That would need a 30" x 78" door trimmed to fit.

I've just looked on my tape measure and that size appears to be a Metric size, althoughthe Metric ones are normally higher. You may need to chop a bit off the bottom, although by my calculations, yiu need to take about 100mm off which is a lot. Howdens are worth a try. Also, there is a company Called Crown Doors in Benfleet, Essex who have all the colours in all the sizes and I would say that if they can't help, you may be in trouble.

What age is your house?

Bungarm2001

Cheers Phill...we are thinking of having the firedoors and frames made up together so they are complete as a set with locks and handles added too. They'll be made to measure, so no cutting the lower edge hopefully. We just need someone to come and fit 'em. Been quoted 40 quid a door/frameset, but not too sure this sounds a bit too cheap??

I take your point over the walls being out of square...one or two are defintely are well out, so there might be more probs than we anticipate...

ukwoody

danielfulshaw wrote: »

OK, so I should have said I'm based in North Cheshire ...don't suppose you guys fancy a trip up North!!?? I've been quoted £ 45 per door and I told them to think of another number and try again.

I think at £45 per fire door that is an amazingly good price and I would bite his hand off for it. If that price includes the frame as well I would go back and grovel to him.
I would charge in the region of £120 per door and frame. It is as Phil says about a days work (and flamming tiring too doing firecheck doors, they're damned heavy). If it is just the door then I charge about £50 - £60 per fire door.
Dont forget that you will need 3 BS rated hinges per door as well.

Woody

phill99

That does sound cheap. Too cheap me thinks. There is a a saying- "pay cheap and pay twice"

Dick_here

So when you guys quote £xx per door, are you expecting the customer to have already bought the doors home themselves, with hinges and handles etc, and to have taken their old doors off in advance ? Do you take their old doors away for them ?