NPower tarriffs

Cardew

onejontwo wrote: »

Well according to your formula I'm 24 stone overweight and have 2 months left to live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually you have put in the wrong values; things are much better than you think.

You are only 2 stone overweight and have 24 months left to live.

RavingMad

I'm looking at nPower's northwest prices and it quotes SoL 11 electricity prices at 22.620p per kWh !! Is that right?

mute_posting

Is possible for a tier 1 rate on a no-standing-charge tarrif

notbritishgas

RavingMad wrote: »

I'm looking at nPower's northwest prices and it quotes SoL 11 electricity prices at 22.620p per kWh !! Is that right?

Yes it is quite possible (anything is possible with npower).

The Sol 11 rates for eastmids are more than 30p per unit for the primary ones, but the remainder are only just over 5p.

In your case the secondary units are only just over 7p.

npower appear not to have any "standing charge tariffs" now or at least I could not see any. But the tariff page is so complicated with several different tariffs that you need a masters degree in maths to see which is best/cheapest for you.

I think the high primary units are intended to hammer the low users.

mute_posting

notbritishgas wrote: »

I think the high primary units are intended to hammer the low users.

Whilst not defending Npower, low users are better of on no-standing-charge tarrifs (when compared with the standing-charge tarrif from the same supplier) as long as they use less than the number of higher rate units each year.

This is because the higher rate units have the standing charge for the year included in the unit price..

Normal unit price + ((standing charge *365) / (no. of higher rate units)) = higher rate unit price

MP

notbritishgas

mute_posting wrote: »

Whilst not defending Npower, low users are better of on no-standing-charge tarrifs (when compared with the standing-charge tarrif from the same supplier) as long as they use less than the number of higher rate units each year.

This is because the higher rate units have the standing charge for the year included in the unit price..

Normal unit price + ((standing charge *365) / (no. of higher rate units)) = higher rate unit price

MP

You could be correct, depending on the price for the primary units, but in my case in eastmids the price of 30p per unit does seem very very high. Normally the suppliers set their price such that if you use all of the primary units that equals the standing charge x 365.
However cannot check that with npower because I cannot find a standing charge tariff on their website, that is why I said they were hammering the low users who use less than the quota of primary units because they pay all of them at the inflated 30p per unit.

mute_posting

notbritishgas wrote: »

You could be correct, depending on the price for the primary units, but in my case in eastmids the price of 30p per unit does seem very very high. Normally the suppliers set their price such that if you use all of the primary units that equals the standing charge x 365.
However cannot check that with npower because I cannot find a standing charge tariff on their website, that is why I said they were hammering the low users who use less than the quota of primary units because they pay all of them at the inflated 30p per unit.

Just checked, I can't find and standing charge tarrifs for NPower either.

However, it is not unusual for standing charges to be 20p plus these days

Cardew

I think several companies are changing their charging structure for primary units. Higher unit charges, albeit for less primary units.

For instance BG on their Electricity tariffs always charged for 900 primary units per year (225 per quarter).

Now they 'only' charge for 500 per year, but their primary unit charges have increased hugely to compensate.

Similarly for gas, previously it was always 1,143 per quarter, it is now 670 per quarter.

The principle is simple(and perhaps understandable). The primary/secondary unit charging structure is, effectively, a 'standing charge' and they wish to ensure as many people as possible pay that 'standing charge' in full.

united4ever

This may seem a bit of a vague question but can you give me some rough idea of how many kWh a year a typical couple living in a two bed flat might use?

Uswitched to npowers SOL11 and have a couple of days left of the cooling off period. 20.86 p up to and including 728 kWh per year and 7.62 p over this. Trouble is, I've not lived outside the family home in the UK until this year so have no clue how many kWh I would normally use in a year.

Cardew

united4ever wrote: »

This may seem a bit of a vague question but can you give me some rough idea of how many kWh a year a typical couple living in a two bed flat might use?

Gas and Electricity or electricity only?

The average household in Uk uses 3,300kWh electricity and 20,500kWh gas and spens approx £1,000pa.

Yours is something of a 'how long is a piece of string' question as it depends on so many factors.

Size of flat, heating system, insulation, baths or showers, how warm you like it etc etc.

If you budget for about £1,000 pa you won't be far out.