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  • Cornucopia
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    edited 26 October 2018 at 4:59PM
    I very much doubt that the TVL systems even have the capability to align letters and actual doorstepping dates. The two activities (of letter printing and doorstepping) are conducted by two different companies, for a start.

    The "or another day" disclaimer wording in the "Will you be in on..." letter is ridiculous. It's extremely difficult to imagine what they mean by this - of course it could be one day... or another. It's self-evident. The best I can make of it is that they are (once again) trying to convert a reasonable, self-evident fact into a threat that can be readily disowned. The most famous example of them doing this is when they say "As you have not responded to our letters, yet", which I take to mean a statement of fact, rather than the introduction to a conditional conclusion.

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  • robatwork
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    Cornucopia wrote: »
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    10101 addresses in a day? Well now TV has gone digital that equates to 21 in decimal.
  • FreeBear
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    Cornucopia wrote: »
    when they say "As you have not responded to our letters, yet", which I take to mean a statement of fact, rather than the introduction to a conditional conclusion.

    But, but.... I have responded to your letters. I faced the general direction of your office, raised a finger in the air, and blew a raspberry. It is not my fault you failed to acknowledge this as a response, but it is all you are getting even if you should be foolish enough to visit when I am in.
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    edited 27 October 2018 at 4:28PM
    EachPenny wrote: »
    if anything it appears to just facilitate the harassment process.

    To say nothing of the fitting up process.

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  • Cornucopia
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    edited 28 October 2018 at 8:14PM
    robatwork wrote: »
    10101 addresses in a day? Well now TV has gone digital that equates to 21 in decimal.

    Kind of foolish of them - I'm sure that 10,000+ would have been a more persuasive way of putting it. Even so, it's all a question of perspective: 30 calls per staff member per day sounds much less impressive, and with an access rate of less than 20% that goes down to less than 6.
  • -taff
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    I used to check the ones I used to get against the ones this person gets..We ometimes had the same signatures on the letters despite not living anywhere near the respective areas.
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  • RandomQ
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    Have a look at this

    http://visitingofficers.co.uk/the-role/

    Basic pay of £20,800 plus commission. OTE £25K +

    Can't believe they do this for such money, plus 45p a mile in their car.

    "To apply you will need to be eligible to work in the UK. You’ll need your own car and a full driving licence. You’ll also have to commit to working 37.5 hours per week – with a proportion of this being evening and weekend work. All applicants will have to have a DBS check."

    Who would have thought they would pass a DBS check!

    Visits are allocated to each Officer by a dedicated department and the areas you work are profiled from your home postcode. This ensures that the best and most productive visits are issued for you to plan your routes and your working week.

    You tell us each week what days and hours you will be working the following week - this will include some evenings or weekends to ensure you are visiting at the most productive times.


    Officers won’t normally have to visit addresses that are more than a 30-minute travelling radius from the postcode that they live in and will not be given their home postcode.

    Interesting so they are local!!

    As with any role where you are visiting members of the public, you need to be aware that you don’t know who’s going to answer the door. You should always take the appropriate safety measures and if at any point you feel unsafe during a visit you can leave immediately without question. Once again, your safety is always our top priority.

    Jaws music playing, the door opens and . . .


    If, after reading the information on this site, you are crazy and desperate enough to decide this role is for you, click on the ‘apply’ button and answer the initial questions. You will then be invited to apply by attaching your CV. This will be reviewed by our recruitment team and if we feel you have the skills to do well in this role you will be invited to an interview. If unsuccessful, you will then be offered a position and booked onto our next induction course.

    Good Luck with that!

    This has to be the funniest part...

    Are you prepared to answer the following questions during the pre-screen process?
    • What are some things you have done in the past to develop good relationships with customers?
    • Tell me your definition of successful communication?
    • Could you give us an example of when you have delivered a difficult message, How did you approach this?
    • Give me an example of a work situation that you felt was stressful? How did you handle it?
    • What interests you about the role of TVL Field Advisor and Capita TVL Business?
    • Where do you see yourself in 2-3 years?
  • I rent a room in shared accomodation. The communal area has a television and is covered under a television licence (purchased by the landlord who does not live at the property). Do I need a television licence if I sit there and watch iplayer on my laptop/mobile.


    Can't find anything that talks about communal area cover if I dont have a TV in my own room and dont watch iplayer in bed, only when I'm cooking/eating.



    Thank you!
  • RandomQ
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    llamatitan wrote: »
    I rent a room in shared accomodation. The communal area has a television and is covered under a television licence (purchased by the landlord who does not live at the property). Do I need a television licence if I sit there and watch iplayer on my laptop/mobile.

    Can't find anything that talks about communal area cover if I dont have a TV in my own room and dont watch iplayer in bed, only when I'm cooking/eating.

    Thank you!

    This will depend on your tenancy and WHERE you watch TV

    If you have one Assured Shorthold Tenancy (AST) agreement with all the tenants being a signatory to that one agreement then you only need one TV licence for the whole property.

    If you each have a separate AST as is common in some properties defined as HMO's then there is a potential for you needing a TV Licence IF you watch Live TV* from any provider or BBC iPlayer IN YOUR ROOM.

    I imagine that you want to know because the iPlayer app may be asking for your licence number, so get it from your Landlord and do not give your address as Room D 11 Downing Street SW1A 2AA but rather as 11 Downing Street SW1A 2AA (where 11 Downing Street SW1A 2AA is your address)

    In theory you do not need a licence for your room if you have a licence elsewhere and only use the device on battery.

    * Live TV is TV that is being broadcast live, e.g. at 20:00 hours tonight BBC1 will be broadcasting Eastenders and ITV will be Broadcasting Doc Martin. So those would be considered LIVE TV but if you watched say Episode 1 of Season 6 of House of Cards on Netflix at that or any other time, it is NOT live as it is a streaming service.
  • Cornucopia
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    edited 5 November 2018 at 4:25PM
    Good advice.

    I wonder if the "operating on batteries" exemption is the basis of another more general loophole for people who are in shared accommodation who would otherwise need their own Licence for their own rooms.
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