TV Licence article Discussion

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zaax wrote: »

But a person does not come around banging on your door for money if you don't use the road

I didn't say they did.

ghou_lfinger

!!!!!! wrote: »

None they raise all their money through commercial channels

Yes it does count live means 'as it is being transmitted' Nothing to do with whether it's a repeat or date of production

See this is the problem I have with the BBC tax. I don't plan on watching anything on the BBC now because they don't have anything on that interests me. I would watch things on channel 4 and other channels such as Dave and because of this I have to give the BBC money? This seems rather unfair.

tonyh66

ghou_lfinger wrote: »

See this is the problem I have with the BBC tax. I don't plan on watching anything on the BBC now because they don't have anything on that interests me. I would watch things on channel 4 and other channels such as Dave and because of this I have to give the BBC money? This seems rather unfair.

but Dave is almost exclusively BBC programmes.

lstar337

ghou_lfinger wrote: »

See this is the problem I have with the BBC tax. I don't plan on watching anything on the BBC now because they don't have anything on that interests me. I would watch things on channel 4 and other channels such as Dave and because of this I have to give the BBC money? This seems rather unfair.

Never heard of the BBC Tax before. :huh:

JimmyTheWig

ghou_lfinger wrote: »

I would watch things on channel 4 and other channels such as Dave and because of this I have to give the BBC money? This seems rather unfair.

Do you think that the likes of Channel 4 and Dave would be as good as they are now if it wasn't for the BBC?

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JimmyTheWig wrote: »

Do you think that the likes of Channel 4 and Dave would be as good as they are now if it wasn't for the BBC?

Yes I do.

Why wouldn't they be?

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lstar337 wrote: »

Never heard of the BBC Tax before. :huh:

It's classed as a tax, and has been for some time.

ONS_News_Release_-_20th_Jan_2006 wrote:

Classification of public sector television

The Office for National Statistics has today announced three classification decisions, following a review of the National Accounts treatment of public sector television:

• the television licence fee, previously classified as a service charge,is being reclassified as a tax;

• the BBC remains in the public sector, but is being reclassified from the public non-financial corporations sector to central government;

• Channel Four Wales (S4C) is similarly being reclassified.

Vik66

Hi all!
my question is:
I watch TV programes online on smart TV via Android Mini PC and an app like Peers TV . It has program's archives for all channels and I always watch only them, because this way I can skip annoying and long ads by moving a cursor forward on the player. You can't do that if watching programmes shown in the real time obviously, that's why I watch them only after they are finished- i.e. Not as "Live TV" or "As being transmitted on TV". Do I still need a TVL.? I SUSPECT that I don't need one, but will be greatful if some expert)) can confirm it)! Or not.
Thanks.

Cornucopia

Vik66 wrote: »

Hi all!
my question is:
I watch TV programes online on smart TV, Android Mini PC and an app like Peers TV f.e. It has program's archives for all channels and I always watch only them, because this way I can skip annoying and long ads by moving a cursor forward on the player. You can't do that if watching programmes shown in the real time obviously, that's why I watch them only after they are finished- i.e. Not "As actually being shown on TV". Do I need still a TVL.? I don't even have aerials for satellite and TV, just a smart TV, router and mini PC.
I SUSPECT that I don't need one, but will be greatful if some expert)) can confirm it))!
Thanks.

It sounds as though you don't need a Licence. I'm not aware of Peers TV, so can't be absolutely sure. It sounds as though there may also be copyright issues involved.

Cornucopia

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

Do you think that the likes of Channel 4 and Dave would be as good as they are now if it wasn't for the BBC?

I think they are two different questions.

Channel 4 has been "through the mill" somewhat as it has developed. Arguably, its early years saw greater critical acclaim, whilst attracting small audiences, whereas now it is very well established in terms of both funding and audiences. Its digital spin-off channels are popular - in particular E4 which gets audience figures well above what BBC 3 can muster.

Dave is part of UKTV, which is half-owned by the BBC via BBC Worldwide. The pressing questions there are:

(a) is it appropriate for the BBC to be involved in operating commercial media within the UK?

(b) is the BBC (and by extension the Licence Fee payer) getting full value from the sale of BBC programming through UKTV?

(c) are BBC programme commissioning choices being affected by the desire for subsequent sale to commercial broadcasters?

(d) is there competition for advertisers between UKTV and other commercial channels (including commercial PSBs like C4), and is this appropriate?

(e) if the law changes to bring PSB channels' catch-up services under the Licence, is it fair and appropriate that the BBC could benefit from UKTV catch-up being outside of the Licence?

I do like many of Dave's original productions, though.