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  • jonesjw
    jonesjw Posts: 201 Forumite
    Owning a TV should not be a reason to compel people to fund the left wing propaganda that is produced by the BBC.
    The TV license should be abolished. In this day & age, the BBC could move to a subscription based business model.
  • derrick
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    jonesjw wrote: »
    Owning a TV should not be a reason to compel people to fund the left wing propaganda that is produced by the BBC.
    The TV license should be abolished. In this day & age, the BBC could move to a subscription based business model.

    You are not compelled to fund the left wing, (or other), propaganda for owning a TV set, you only need a licence to watch or record LIVE broadcast TV.

    Quoted from: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/index.jsp

    Do I need a TV Licence?

    spacer.gifspacer.gifgrey.gifspacer.gifspacer.gifYou must be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV. It makes no difference what equipment you use - whether it’s a laptop, PC, mobile phone, digital box, DVD recorder or a TV set - you still need a licence.

    You do not need a TV Licence to view video clips on the internet, as long as what you are viewing is not being shown on TV at the same time as you are viewing it.

    If you use a digital box with a hi-fi system, or another device that can only be used to produce sounds and can't display TV programmes, and you don't install or use any other TV receiving equipment, you don't need a TV Licence.




    However I do agree that the licence fee should be abolished.
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  • fox2319
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    I want to dump sky, unplug the aerial from the wall and lose the ability to receive live TV or radio over the air.

    I still want to keep my TV, PS3 and PC but do not want to watch any live programmes, maybe catch the odd thing on iPlayer but generally get by online.

    If I do this, will I be able to return my TV license? Would I also need to de-tune the car stereo? What would the situation be if I had a hire car (relatively common in my line of work)

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  • KimYeovil
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    You are allowed to listen to BBC radio without a licence.

    If you don't watch live television or stream programmes as they are broadcast, (currently) no licence is required. No need to take a hatchet to equipment with tuners.
  • Enterprise_1701C
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    It might be a bit difficult to actually prove you do not watch live TV though - all very well unplugging the aerial but it's not easy to prove you are not watching it regardless. I do not know for sure but I think the onus would be on you to prove this.

    Personally I think it's a bit strange to have to pay TV licence and cable/satellite, I would imagine they pay to re-transmit BBC anyway.
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  • LondonDiva
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    If you are watching I player, you are technically making use of the fee
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  • derrick
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    It might be a bit difficult to actually prove you do not watch live TV though - all very well unplugging the aerial but it's not easy to prove you are not watching it regardless. I do not know for sure but I think the onus would be on you to prove this.

    Personally I think it's a bit strange to have to pay TV licence and cable/satellite, I would imagine they pay to re-transmit BBC anyway.

    You do not have to prove you don't watch live TV, it is up to TV Licensing to prove you do!
    And as they have no right of entry to your property they will find it hard to do unless you have a TV on, watching live TV in front of a window visible from the street.

    LondonDiva wrote: »
    If you are watching I player, you are technically making use of the fee

    Technically or not, iplayer is not transmitted live, so therefore no licence required for it.
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  • fox2319
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    LondonDiva wrote: »
    If you are watching I player, you are technically making use of the fee
    Not really, the TV licence fee only covers watching live TV. Arguably you're watching something that may (at least in part) be funded by the license but that's more a personal choice than a legal one.
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  • jenniewb
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    fox2319 wrote: »
    Not really, the TV licence fee only covers watching live TV. Arguably you're watching something that may (at least in part) be funded by the license but that's more a personal choice than a legal one.


    Arrrg! Clicked wrong button again!

    Seriously, you think that none of the license payers fee goes into putting up the Iplayer? it doesn't appear on there by magic- and if you live outside the UK, you cannot watch it- why? well paretly because your not paying for it- without the licence payers fee, the iplayer would not exist. We pay for it!

    If it makes you feel any better, I cannot even get a signal for my TV. I have some days when I can, then the people who live in the flat above mine will move furniture or something, and I lose all signal. Trying to get the signal back again is harder then getting blood from a stone. I still have to pay my licence. Why? because I can watch TV 1/5 days a week (if I am lucky) even though now I rarely watch, and also because I do see everything else on the Iplayer. (And no, I am not wealthy enough to afford it, it is a huge struggle to pay and I serioulsy resent paying it when all I get is a blurred signal and sports on TV.)
  • fox2319
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    jenniewb wrote: »
    Arrrg! Clicked wrong button again!

    Seriously, you think that none of the license payers fee goes into putting up the Iplayer? it doesn't appear on there by magic- and if you live outside the UK, you cannot watch it- why? well paretly because your not paying for it- without the licence payers fee, the iplayer would not exist. We pay for it!

    If it makes you feel any better, I cannot even get a signal for my TV. I have some days when I can, then the people who live in the flat above mine will move furniture or something, and I lose all signal. Trying to get the signal back again is harder then getting blood from a stone. I still have to pay my licence. Why? because I can watch TV 1/5 days a week (if I am lucky) even though now I rarely watch, and also because I do see everything else on the Iplayer. (And no, I am not wealthy enough to afford it, it is a huge struggle to pay and I serioulsy resent paying it when all I get is a blurred signal and sports on TV.)

    I have a TV license and I know that iplayer gets funded by it. Fine with that, not so fine with the quality of 80-90% of their output but that's a personal preference.

    Just checking that should I want to lose the ability to get live TV (btw, I live in a local TV reception dead spot and need a 15ft mast on top of our house with an active amp to actually receive a signal, despite the fact that others don't have to go to such extremes.

    As I say, given the quality of what's on the box these days, just checking the legalities of ditching the license and not encouraging them to make more dross...
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