Council house entitlement!!!

tigtag02

neas wrote: »

Did i say they did? If i did i apologise.

I never said ALL council tenants are scroungers/leechers but i lived beneath one... and a fair proporton of them on the estate were 'bad' people. If i wanted somethng 'nicked' i knew where to go say. And you regularly had people selling lawnmowers, goldfish, garden gnomes outside the street lol. Maybe its just my area... i live in west yorkshire were the area is pretty poor.

Seems we must be neighbours neas :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I'm not denying that there are scroungers out there but your posts are extreemly sterotypical of the minority that are (does that even make sense :rotfl: )

I dont know if you are bitter or ignorant but you come accross as very biggoted.

You just cant tar everyone with the same brush.

Council housing is there for the needy (my mum is dire need herself after 40 years of private housing) and there it should be. Yes, some take advantage but you will find that some take advantage of EVERYTHING.

I hope that makes as much sense *out loud* as it does in my head

emily_jackson

neas wrote: »

Did i say they did? If i did i apologise.

I never said ALL council tenants are scroungers/leechers but i lived beneath one... and a fair proporton of them on the estate were 'bad' people. If i wanted somethng 'nicked' i knew where to go say. And you regularly had people selling lawnmowers, goldfish, garden gnomes outside the street lol. Maybe its just my area... i live in west yorkshire were the area is pretty poor.

I live in a council flat and I don't know anyone who sells dodgy stuff. And none of my neighbours who I know are scroungers or leechers; in fact one is a volunteer for the Stroke Club and visits stroke victimn! She also makes greeting cards for them in her own time!

I can think of a few murderers/thieves/fraudsters/thugs who don't live on council estates - Winona Ryder, Jamiroquoi, Lord Broket, Harold Shipman, Fred and Rose West. What's their excuse for being "bad" because it's not that they lived on a council estate?

Datasafe_2

Is this still going on???

tigtag02

Datasafe wrote: »

Is this still going on???

obviously

neas

Ok i'll rephrase it the... My comments were based against a 'minority' of scroungers and criminals.

Am i bitter about it? Probably. I remember tenants being abusive alcoholics, general thieves whose kids would trash their community centre. Maybe its just the bradford council districts that are like this but thats my own experience of it. Some needed the help, others abused it to just sponge the system. And yea this happens all the time but quite a few families were connected enough... to get by really well (tax evasion via moonlighting, selling stolen goods... the usual).

Im not tarring people with a brush... but i find it unfair this is allowed to happen in britain... my old council estate is a bad area to live in... not because it was a bad area just because those livng there (the council estate kids) have trashed it to !!!!... smashed bottles, broken into ther community centre, graffitied it, smashed windows etc... Just seems a little too much to swallow for me.

This is my experience of it in my old town.

LittleTinker

neas wrote: »

Ok i'll rephrase it the... My comments were based against a 'minority' of scroungers and criminals.

Am i bitter about it? Probably. I remember tenants being abusive alcoholics, general thieves whose kids would trash their community centre. Maybe its just the bradford council districts that are like this but thats my own experience of it. Some needed the help, others abused it to just sponge the system. And yea this happens all the time but quite a few families were connected enough... to get by really well (tax evasion via moonlighting, selling stolen goods... the usual).

Im not tarring people with a brush... but i find it unfair this is allowed to happen in britain... my old council estate is a bad area to live in... not because it was a bad area just because those livng there (the council estate kids) have trashed it to !!!!... smashed bottles, broken into ther community centre, graffitied it, smashed windows etc... Just seems a little too much to swallow for me.

This is my experience of it in my old town.

This happens all over Britain, not just Bradford. It happens in many housing areas, not just council estates and you need to do a little research on the subject of abusive alcoholis to find out where most of those live :rolleyes:

It might explain though, why you are struggling to buy a house and blaming the rest of the country for it. It isnt that you cant afford one, its because you are fussy about where you live.

keelyjrs

Ok I can kind of see where you are coming from neas. As i said before, I am university degree educated , was in a wonderful career and have always grafted for my money. I got struck down with a muscular illness and as a result of which can no longetr work. I instead am a stay at home Mummy and my husband is self employed, working his behind off so we don't need to take hand outs from the state.. not that there is any shame in accepting help if you genuinely need it.

I live in an area that is mostly great, a few blocks of flats and some houses that are all council. Most of us are decent clean living people who look out for each other and don't hesitate to call the police if there is trouble. However there is a minority of fa milies that are just awful. They walk about shouting and swearing, holleringh at their kids and the odd one clutching a can of super dooper strength lager.. thhose people clearly do not work, don't want to work and make me sick. It is in fact those kind of people that make it difficult for genuine people like me to get housed. I know , through support groups, that there are hundreds of disabled people getting in more and more debt as they cannot be housed by the council as there are these kind of lazy good for nothing families clogging up the homes.

These are the sort of families that have managed somehow to get in, probably years ago when it was easier, and have never bothered to work or aim for anything in their lives. BUT I WILL SAY THIS... THEY ARE THE MINORITY!!

I'd also ike to point out round the corner from me there is a private estate where the houses average about 5 mil to buy and there is a db9 or bentley in every driveway and they are full of gangsters that are part of the underworld... so y'know criminals are everywhere and appearances can be deceiving
ps sorry for typos.. pain in hands makes it hard to type!

MissMoneypenny

keelyjrs wrote: »

I'd also ike to point out round the corner from me there is a private estate where the houses average about 5 mil to buy and there is a db9 or bentley in every driveway and they are full of gangsters that are part of the underworld... so y'know criminals are everywhere and appearances can be deceiving

My sister was in the Met and she said the same thing. That people think they have made it when they move into an exclusive area, only to find out that their neighbours are crims. One of her friends she trained with, is now a high ranking officer and he still lives in the terrace house they first bought. They have extended up and out. He says that he knows his neighbours where he is.

skoda38

quote mse

rather than seeing social security as a favour from the Government, perhaps understand it's an entitlement contributed to in the good times, and repaid when you've less cash. Of course, many have political views that there should be a different benefits system, or even none at all. Yet having that belief doesn't prevent you from paying taxes, so it shouldn't stop you claiming the reciprocal benefit.

no such thing as a hand out then. your either entitled or not.

keelyjrs

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

My sister was in the Met and she said the same thing. That people think they have made it when they move into an exclusive area, only to find out that their neighbours are crims. One of her friends she trained with, is now a high ranking officer and he still lives in the terrace house they first bought. They have extended up and out. He says that he knows his neighbours where he is.

I don't blame him at all. Did you ever see that programme "gangster's wives"? There was a couple of people on it on my high street talking about how wonderful the life of crime is and how well it pays lol I bet their neighbours love them! One of the guys ran a muscle firm and protection racket.. nice eh?!!!:eek: